This thread is mainly aimed at the people who live in the UK, but all opinions are welcome...
Me and a mate were discussing this scheme this morning, still slightly pissed... but it got me thinking, if there are any people for this scheme....
What are your opinions on the "ID card scheme" the government are trying to get rolling?
Personally I dont agree that the ID card would be a good idea. The amount of shit they are planning to do, and the type of information they are planning to collect on each individual is a bit over the top...And Tony can lick my balls if he thinks im gonna fork out for one... If he wants me to have one, he can give in to me for free!
Below ive put a few points on shit i dont like about the scheme...
1.) The proposed price of the ID cards was initially priced at £93. But a private draft report said that the 10yr plan to introduce them could cost the government upto £18bn and not £5.8bn like the official proposal said. This increase brings the prices of the cards to £300 each!... now... to me, paying £93 is way over the top... never mind £3 - fucking - 00. In my opinion if these ID's are going to be enforced on us, the government shouldnt be expecting the general public to cough up for them. Especially at that price.... (The private draft was put together by a team at the London School Of Ecnomics, and published by the Observer Newspaper.)
2.) The Biometric scans of finger prints, and facial features (ie retinal scans) are being considered to be included in the card... Fuck that!... I dont mind them having my date of birth, name, address, phone number etc... but i think they are taking it a little bit far with the scans, DNA fingerprints and things like that. These biometric scanners are also have to be paid for... i dont think Tony is gonna delve into his back pocket for the shit... The cards are supposed to updated every 10years if they come into force... All techinal and scientific biometric characteristics diminishes over time... and to keep an upto-date log of the changes, the renewal of cards will have to take place every 5 years!.... Thus, an increase in administration fees... Which the public will have to pay for...
3.) The draft also said that the proposal made by the government hadnt considered all the factors, like changes of address etc... This is a major problem as the price of this administration would sky rocket the schemes initial price (£5.8bn.)
Its funny how the home office havent put a definate figure on things... Just an estimate..."a round-a-bout value"... "Its comericially sensitive" they say... they have refused to tell us the real figures, because Tony doesnt want to scare people with the actual price... In time if he gets his way, our asses are gonna get robbed!
4.) The compulsary carrying of the cards would worsen the harassment of ethnic minorities... They’ll provide another pretext for police stop-and-search, often directed at ethnic minorities. And fuck me, when i had my car... the amount of times i got pulled over because they were doing a "random" check... (13 times in 2 months)
5.) The cards are supposed to combat terrorism, but to be honest i think over time they will have little impact in countering it. Sophisticated terror networks would soon be able to produce counterfeit cards or papers enabling people to get legitimate cards!
6.) They will have little effect on illegal immigrants who are already willing to break the law by staying in this country to work. These people will not be put off by the identity cards scheme... come on, some of these illegal immigrants have risked their lives to come over here. Do Tony Blair and Charles Clarke really think a person from a warn torn country, who has lost all his close family and survived a journey in a lorry for thousands of miles, is gonna turn back once he finds out he hasnt got an ID card waiting for him at dover reception... I think not...
7.) The cards WILL lead to ‘function creep’. The functions of the card will grow over time as it stores more personal information. More people WILL demand to see it (ie shops), effectively making it compulsory to carry one
9.) They will also lead to loss of privacy. There will be a massive database containing an unprecedented amount of personal information on people... In a decade or so, it wouldnt surprise me if the government wanted to see what the size of every mans manlyhood is.
(Please excuse the spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes)
Rant over
Hizzo
Me and a mate were discussing this scheme this morning, still slightly pissed... but it got me thinking, if there are any people for this scheme....
What are your opinions on the "ID card scheme" the government are trying to get rolling?
Personally I dont agree that the ID card would be a good idea. The amount of shit they are planning to do, and the type of information they are planning to collect on each individual is a bit over the top...And Tony can lick my balls if he thinks im gonna fork out for one... If he wants me to have one, he can give in to me for free!
Below ive put a few points on shit i dont like about the scheme...
1.) The proposed price of the ID cards was initially priced at £93. But a private draft report said that the 10yr plan to introduce them could cost the government upto £18bn and not £5.8bn like the official proposal said. This increase brings the prices of the cards to £300 each!... now... to me, paying £93 is way over the top... never mind £3 - fucking - 00. In my opinion if these ID's are going to be enforced on us, the government shouldnt be expecting the general public to cough up for them. Especially at that price.... (The private draft was put together by a team at the London School Of Ecnomics, and published by the Observer Newspaper.)
2.) The Biometric scans of finger prints, and facial features (ie retinal scans) are being considered to be included in the card... Fuck that!... I dont mind them having my date of birth, name, address, phone number etc... but i think they are taking it a little bit far with the scans, DNA fingerprints and things like that. These biometric scanners are also have to be paid for... i dont think Tony is gonna delve into his back pocket for the shit... The cards are supposed to updated every 10years if they come into force... All techinal and scientific biometric characteristics diminishes over time... and to keep an upto-date log of the changes, the renewal of cards will have to take place every 5 years!.... Thus, an increase in administration fees... Which the public will have to pay for...
3.) The draft also said that the proposal made by the government hadnt considered all the factors, like changes of address etc... This is a major problem as the price of this administration would sky rocket the schemes initial price (£5.8bn.)
Its funny how the home office havent put a definate figure on things... Just an estimate..."a round-a-bout value"... "Its comericially sensitive" they say... they have refused to tell us the real figures, because Tony doesnt want to scare people with the actual price... In time if he gets his way, our asses are gonna get robbed!
4.) The compulsary carrying of the cards would worsen the harassment of ethnic minorities... They’ll provide another pretext for police stop-and-search, often directed at ethnic minorities. And fuck me, when i had my car... the amount of times i got pulled over because they were doing a "random" check... (13 times in 2 months)
5.) The cards are supposed to combat terrorism, but to be honest i think over time they will have little impact in countering it. Sophisticated terror networks would soon be able to produce counterfeit cards or papers enabling people to get legitimate cards!
6.) They will have little effect on illegal immigrants who are already willing to break the law by staying in this country to work. These people will not be put off by the identity cards scheme... come on, some of these illegal immigrants have risked their lives to come over here. Do Tony Blair and Charles Clarke really think a person from a warn torn country, who has lost all his close family and survived a journey in a lorry for thousands of miles, is gonna turn back once he finds out he hasnt got an ID card waiting for him at dover reception... I think not...
7.) The cards WILL lead to ‘function creep’. The functions of the card will grow over time as it stores more personal information. More people WILL demand to see it (ie shops), effectively making it compulsory to carry one
9.) They will also lead to loss of privacy. There will be a massive database containing an unprecedented amount of personal information on people... In a decade or so, it wouldnt surprise me if the government wanted to see what the size of every mans manlyhood is.
(Please excuse the spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes)
Rant over
Hizzo
