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Film & TV I just watched Scarface for the first time today.

Rahim said:
yeah one of my friends was like wtf you havent seen that movie? thats a must see movie...and now i know why. very good movie....i also noticed one of the scenes in 2Pac's Made Niggaz video was inspired by a scene from scarface...its the part where Pac's arm is broken and he's going into his splint or whatever that's supporting his broken arm to grab a ciggerette..and biggie was like "pac no..please don't kill me"....and pac's like no im not going to kill u (cause biggie thought pac was going to pull out a gun and shoot him)..even if u are a fat phony".....and then biggie (in real life) ends up getting killed....and in the movie scarface...someone else kills that guy (in that scene)...and it wasnt scarface...just like he promised...and in the whole pac situation with biggie...pac didn't kill biggie either (directly).....so in some ways...pac and tony montana are the same.......pac even has a song called the world is mine....and tony's motto is "the world is yours"......coinsidence? i think not.
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watched it once, didn't like it.. way too overrated indeed!

what are you talking about tho'? lol
pac didn't kill biggie, indeed, but even in americaz most wanted, in that scene, the two "bodyguards" pac had with him, killed "piggie" so it's an exact copy :p
and not the "pac didn't directly kill biggie, so they're a lot alike"

and pac doesn't have a song called the world is mine?
he raps it in a song iirc "sorry nas, but this whole world is mine" or something along those words. in his drunken freestyle I think
 
PuffnScruff said:
it is a highly over rated movie and i know there are others that share this opinion with me. doesn't even make the top 5 gangster movies, not even top 10. most people only like it because their favorite rappers reference to it so much
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i would agree that the movie is overrated, but it's not even in your top 10 gangster movies? i have to ask what you would put ahead of it. i mean yeah it's not as good as some people hype it up to be, but it is still a great movie, and i can't think of 10 gangster flicks i would rank higher than Scarface
 
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Rahim said:
yeah

and right behind scarface is the movie casino...well acctually...i think casino might be better then scarface imo...but these are both awsome movies...i still have yet to see godfather
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the godfather is AWESOME too. better late than never.
 
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stefanwzyga said:
"Once apon a time in America" is my fav gangster movie.
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I would like to see the full version of Once Upon a Time in America...I know it's long as it is, but apparently a lot was cut out.

At the end of filming, Leone had about 8 to 10 hours worth of footage. With his editor, Nino Baragli, Leone trimmed this down to about almost 6 hours, and wanted to release the film in two three-hour parts.
The producers refused (partly due to the commercial failure of Bertolucci's two-part Novecento) and Leone was forced to further shorten the length of his film, resulting in a completed (i.e. scored, dubbed, edited, etc.) film of 229 minutes.
Leone has said that ideally, he would have liked the film to be "between four hours ten minutes and four hours twenty-five minutes" (250 minutes to 265 minutes), and that such a cut would mainly have served to restore scenes developing Noodles' relationships with women.
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Unlikely to ever see a directors cut, but it'd be nice if one exists.
 
Tha_Wood said:
wow i cant believe this is the first time you have seen scarface, great movie. not as good as Goodfellas tho
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Exactly. As great as "Scarface" is, nothing comes close to "Goodfellas"

And I actually have never seen the godfather movies. I know:eek: Well, I did watch the original but I was so hammered I couldn't tell you a single thing about it.
 
Casino is over rated too, and its not much of a gangster flick anyway.

Scarface is dope as fuck, Tony is just a cartoon character of a gangster, its not meant to be believable. Scarface is a coke high, thats what is so good about it. If youve done coke, as De Palma did when he wrote it, you'll understand. The story is almost as if you were watching it through the eyes of someone on coke, everything is just done to the extreme and gets more extreme as Tony does more coke.

I prefer Carlito's Way, and always look at it as a sort of unofficial sequal or what if Tony Montana had survived and tried to go legit type thing.
 
^^Did you find the ending very far fetched. I liked Carlitos Way.Jay-Z used a lot of quotes from it on Reasonable Doubt as well didnt he..
 
Carlito's Way is dope, and Pacino was solid in it as always, but Sean Penn steals the show in that one. plus it has a brilliant ending you never really saw coming, where as in Scarface, you pretty much knew right from the jump that a guy like Tony Montana would never last and that he'd be dead by the end of the movie.

i gotta agree with Ruk tho. Scarface isn't meant to be a serious gangster picture. Pacino purposely overacted in some scenes to get that point across and to make the character as bigger-than-life as possible, as he put it a cartoon character. it's just meant to be a fun, exhilarating crime flick.

edit: now i feel silly about typing this, since it seems i forgot that you see Carlito getting killed in the opening credit sequence. however it still works to fool the audience because of the way they build up to the final scenes. you know he will die, but you don't know who pulls the trigger. DePalma did a good job of fooling the viewer into believing one thing, then he throws a swerve in there that shouldn't be unexpected, but ultimately is.
 
Sean Penn is the dude that Carlitos fails to finish off in the alley way and then comes back to kill him at the end isnt it?

I think is a bit far fetched because there is about 50 guys after him and not one can get a shot at him. I must watch that movie again.
 
Bobby Sands said:
Sean Penn is the dude that Carlitos fails to finish off in the alley way and then comes back to kill him at the end isnt it?

I think is a bit far fetched because there is about 50 guys after him and not one can get a shot at him. I must watch that movie again.
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nope, Sean Penn plays his crazy coked out lawyer. the dude you're referring to, Benny Blanco from the Bronx, is played by John Leguziamo (sp?)
 
Its over rated by some but I dont see the "favorite rapppers" connection

why would people compare it so directly to broader epics
 
I've lost count of how many times I have seen this movie. Though I fall asleep half way through sometimes because it's so long.

I read somewhere that the writer for scarface actually went to columbia to speak to actual drug lords there, for research for the movie.
 
Yeshua said:
I've lost count of how many times I have seen this movie. Though I fall asleep half way through sometimes because it's so long.

I read somewhere that the writer for scarface actually went to columbia to speak to actual drug lords there, for research for the movie.
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well Oliver Stone wrote Scarface, so he probably just talked to his own drug connections lol
 
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