Homophobes

[Pacaveli-T]

pac was an interesting mention but fact remains as far as life goes we will run into numerous prejudice,sexist,racist,homophobic and any other type you will meet...at this point its almost innate in some peoples blood for some reason you can't change that the ones that grow up to believe it are not going to change their opinion and they will teach their children to be like that as well its really up to the child to follow or deny those thoughts...I'll admit its annoying and disrespectful to always hear about it but I learned to accept sadly it will still keep happening.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Im not a homophobic, i have no problem with people who are homosexuals.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

What exactly do you mean by "lifestyle choice"? Hetero/homosexual activity is a choice, but being hetero/homosexual isn't. You don't choose who you're attracted to, or if you're attracted to anyone.

Yeah, you're right here, my wording is off - for the first time in the thread me thinks.

Being an active homosexual is a lifestyle choice.

 

[Little Skittle]

i dislike homosexuals as a group, for their flamboyancy ( the ones who are), and this day of silence shit. wtf is that shit even for....plus most of the ones i know think they are better somehow than heterosexuals. however, there are gay individuals who i get a long with and even consider to be friends. and for me, its more disgusting to see gay people hold hands and be intimate, than actually kiss and what not

 

[AmerikazMost]

I have nothing against homosexuals, though I'm not exactly a proponent of the acts. And as far as the gay pride thing, they see the resistance against them, so they do these parades and shit and they just stand out more. If they just acted normal and didn't make a big deal with flaunting it, then people wouldn't be as outspoken as they are. Let's face it - a group of men dressed up as Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz walking down the street is exactly subtle. You're gay, you're not walking for MS or something. If you stopped pointing out the differences, maybe people would stop recognizing them.

And I know this doesn't apply to all homosexuals, but some can make it worse for the whole.

 

[Jurhum]

So what is your point, exactly?


How is comparing two sexual preferences incomprehensible?

You might not believe this, but when i was working i was thinking about this word and how you were going to come and correct me.

anyway, what i meant was trying to compare the two situations is incorrect. Maybe it's my way of thinking but I fail to see where the two orientations meet or correlate for that matter. Anyway, I strongley with homosexuality and its activities, and forever will hold my position.

Heterosexuality has a "reason and an outcome"? I'm assuming you're referring to procreation? Would you consider all those who haven't produced offspring to be failures, then? How many children have you provided the human race with, or have you too failed to achieve the required outcome? I'm assuming you don't have recreational sex, as that doesn't have an outcome and is therefore pointless.

And please point out the 'problems' these dastardly homosexuals cause, other than failing to provide an already overpopulated planet with their offspring, like all heterosexuals do.

No, humans aren't only to have sex for procreation, although it comes with it. However, there are many things that shape soiciety. no matter what I do or say, it might not change anything. But, if you honestly believe that homo's are perfectly correct, then to you your ideology. I on the other hand believe it's completely wrong.

 

[TecK NeeX]

Let me guess though, you're going to say that homosexuality is a choice

Homosexuality is a choice, in the last 2 decades research showed very high rates of success in curing individuals of their homosexual tendencies. I don't believe that individuals could be helped if homosexuality were indeed genetic, just as you would not be able to cure someone of his or her race or gender.

I actually know of a couple of guys who were homosexual at one time and are now straight, married with kids, and have not been intimate with the same sex ever since their teenage years.

fact is if homosexuality is genetic you just simply can't be talked or cured out of it, for example and i dont wanna bring religion into this but it is a fact that many homosexuals have indeed been helped/cured or talked out of homosexuality simply by converting to a religion which prohibits such behaviour. not to mention the fact that in some countries have very high homosexuals while other countries have very little to none.

 

[Pittsey]

Homosexuality is a choice, in the last 2 decades research showed very high rates of success in curing individuals of their homosexual tendencies. I don't believe that individuals could be helped if homosexuality were indeed genetic, just as you would not be able to cure someone of his or her race or gender.

I actually know of a couple of guys who were homosexual at one time and are now straight, married with kids, and have not been intimate with the same sex ever since their teenage years.

fact is if homosexuality is genetic you just simply can't be talked or cured out of it, for example and i dont wanna bring religion into this but it is a fact that many homosexuals have indeed been helped/cured or talked out of homosexuality simply by converting to a religion which prohibits such behaviour. not to mention the fact that in some countries have very high homosexuals while other countries have very little to none.

I guarantee they have not been "cured" of their feelings. They just got bullied out of it by people who believe homosexuality is the worst thing in the world.
And it's usually people from the Christian faith who are doing the "curing". They can't cure hunger, war or crime but instead they concentrate on 2 adult men who cause no harm. Oh and the word isn't cure, it's called bullying and installing the fear of god so that the homo's suppress their feelings and don't disclose them again. Instead to fit in, they indulge in the farce of marriage and kids.

 

[not really ken]

How are gays not causing harm? They are fucking with the balance of society. They now want adoption rights and other means to be made legal where the can have children (surrogacy etc). Again, they are flaunting their choice/ illness in our faces and fucking with the balance. Children need mothers as well as fathers, they need emotional attatchement to both sides. this is no different to the parents divorcing at a very young age for the child, and the child going through the whole lack of balance in their parenting. I DO NOT want to use Pac as an example to gain more credibility in the point or anything, but he talked about various issues which affected him adversely due to the fact that he didn't have a father. And many other people that you know personally will have confided (maybe) in you about how the lack of parent (from one side) has affected them and they feel incomplete. Tearaway kids, drug addicts and just societies layabouts and criminals come from one parent families (im talking homos and lesbians).

I have everything against Homosexuals, and those that say " I don't have anything against them, but....." are just apologists. I have issues against them becasue I care about my community and want my community to be vibrant and peaceful. and the only way for people to acheive that, is to be totally at harmony with their bodies and nature. Everyone agrees that nature is miraculous and unbelievable. If tomorrow night did not preceed day, the balance would be fucked. if tomorrow summer did not follow winter? The balance would be fucked. If tomorrow, rain was not followed by?.....what's that thing called where the rain goes back up . If tomorrow the girl chromosome just disaappeared and it was only boys being produced?
What if tomorrow death stopped overcoming us and everyone lived forever?
this is the duality of nature, we are a part of that nature, and our arrogance seems to know no bounds. Stop fucking with nature, nature has given us the best plan for survival yet we choose to fuck it up. the blance of societis has gone to hell and the side affects are many and most of them not even known due to convenient ignorance.

I'm not going to go out and harm gays and print literature against them but the day i accept them, is the day i accept bestiality, people who fuck animals say it is innate. i will also accept peados, because peados say that what they do is innate and they can't help it.

 

[Bender]

Reading this thread; people need to open their mind for real!
When will people realise that their prejudices are influenced by their own ideals, and their own concepts of what they vision as a world which they can conform to.

Prejudice is a symptom of a conditioned mind. My pleas fall on ignorant ears, even so: Wake up!

 

[tourniquet]

homophobism, religionism? these are not actual words..
and anyway your comparisons are false and they do not make any sense for the simple reason that homosexual tendencies are not something you are born with, as mentioned before in this thread they can be cured, meaning they are psychological, in other words its something that can be controlled, unlike the color of skin you are born with.
however your point is homophobia is just as bad as racism and all other forms of prejudice, from my point of view i have no problems with anyone, i am not prejudice against anyone and i think everyone is free to do whatever they want, yet i can't find homosexuality natural in any way..i have never met any gay people, and i will not treat them differently if i do. its just that the fact of the matter is deep down i dont condone homosexuality and find it disgusting..

 

[Bender]

^ I hope that isn't aimed at my post. Religionism - ism is a suffix that can be added to many a word.

 

[tourniquet]

not you, the original post

 

[Chronic]

How are gays not causing harm? They are fucking with the balance of society. They now want adoption rights and other means to be made legal where the can have children (surrogacy etc). Again, they are flaunting their choice/ illness in our faces and fucking with the balance. Children need mothers as well as fathers, they need emotional attatchement to both sides. this is no different to the parents divorcing at a very young age for the child, and the child going through the whole lack of balance in their parenting. I DO NOT want to use Pac as an example to gain more credibility in the point or anything, but he talked about various issues which affected him adversely due to the fact that he didn't have a father. And many other people that you know personally will have confided (maybe) in you about how the lack of parent (from one side) has affected them and they feel incomplete. Tearaway kids, drug addicts and just societies layabouts and criminals come from one parent families (im talking homos and lesbians).

I have everything against Homosexuals, and those that say " I don't have anything against them, but....." are just apologists. I have issues against them becasue I care about my community and want my community to be vibrant and peaceful. and the only way for people to acheive that, is to be totally at harmony with their bodies and nature. Everyone agrees that nature is miraculous and unbelievable. If tomorrow night did not preceed day, the balance would be fucked. if tomorrow summer did not follow winter? The balance would be fucked. If tomorrow, rain was not followed by?.....what's that thing called where the rain goes back up . If tomorrow the girl chromosome just disaappeared and it was only boys being produced?
What if tomorrow death stopped overcoming us and everyone lived forever?
this is the duality of nature, we are a part of that nature, and our arrogance seems to know no bounds. Stop fucking with nature, nature has given us the best plan for survival yet we choose to fuck it up. the blance of societis has gone to hell and the side affects are many and most of them not even known due to convenient ignorance.

I'm not going to go out and harm gays and print literature against them but the day i accept them, is the day i accept bestiality, people who fuck animals say it is innate. i will also accept peados, because peados say that what they do is innate and they can't help it.

Ah yes. Muslims are bad for society. Some Muslims are terrorists, therefore all of them are bad for society.

You forget that you're dealing with people here. People do bad things. I think most of the people in this thread are discussing homosexuality in general. Homosexuals in general don't fuck up any balance. You're just focusing on the ones that do so you can justify your hatred against homosexuality.

This is the worst post I've seen by you ken. The first paragraph is entirely about gays adopting children and the effects of that. The second paragraph could be cut down to three sentences. All that text you wrote and it basically just comes down to one weak ass argument: homosexuals want to adopt children, this is bad for the children and society because it fucks up a balance.
Two men fucking in private does not affect jack shit. Being attracted to a man does just affect jack shit. That's what homosexuality is, being attracted to someone of the same sex. All that adoption crap has nothing to do with it. That says something about people in general, not homosexuality.
I hope that when you're in your most honest moments, you realize that homosexuality is not the same as bestiality and pedophelia.

 

[AmerikazMost]

How are gays not causing harm? They are fucking with the balance of society. They now want adoption rights and other means to be made legal where the can have children (surrogacy etc). Again, they are flaunting their choice/ illness in our faces and fucking with the balance. Children need mothers as well as fathers, they need emotional attatchement to both sides. this is no different to the parents divorcing at a very young age for the child, and the child going through the whole lack of balance in their parenting. I DO NOT want to use Pac as an example to gain more credibility in the point or anything, but he talked about various issues which affected him adversely due to the fact that he didn't have a father. And many other people that you know personally will have confided (maybe) in you about how the lack of parent (from one side) has affected them and they feel incomplete. Tearaway kids, drug addicts and just societies layabouts and criminals come from one parent families (im talking homos and lesbians).

I have everything against Homosexuals, and those that say " I don't have anything against them, but....." are just apologists. I have issues against them becasue I care about my community and want my community to be vibrant and peaceful. and the only way for people to acheive that, is to be totally at harmony with their bodies and nature. Everyone agrees that nature is miraculous and unbelievable. If tomorrow night did not preceed day, the balance would be fucked. if tomorrow summer did not follow winter? The balance would be fucked. If tomorrow, rain was not followed by?.....what's that thing called where the rain goes back up . If tomorrow the girl chromosome just disaappeared and it was only boys being produced?
What if tomorrow death stopped overcoming us and everyone lived forever?
this is the duality of nature, we are a part of that nature, and our arrogance seems to know no bounds. Stop fucking with nature, nature has given us the best plan for survival yet we choose to fuck it up. the blance of societis has gone to hell and the side affects are many and most of them not even known due to convenient ignorance.

I'm not going to go out and harm gays and print literature against them but the day i accept them, is the day i accept bestiality, people who fuck animals say it is innate. i will also accept peados, because peados say that what they do is innate and they can't help it.

Wow, I this is not really Ken, because it really doesn't sound like him.

I agree with your point in the firts paragraph about gays adopting children, but that only applies to the ones that do. Now all gays adopt children, so you can't fault them all for it when shit like that happens.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

those that say " I don't have anything against them, but....." are just apologists.

I don't have anything against them, but they male homosexuality makes me feel sick.

Am I an apologist? No, this is an honest, pull-no-punches statement regarding my opinion of male homosexuals & homosexuality.

 

[Bender]

I think some people have their principles mixed here, this is about Homosexuality not specifically 'Gay Men'. I bet there are people in here who say: "I despise Gay men", whereas they also say: "The idea of lesbians turns me on". They are both about Homosexuality.

So if you are classing yourself as a 'Homophobe' but get aroused by the thought of Lesbians, then the bottom line is you are not homophobic, just confused.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

^
This is why I was specific about which type of homosexuality made me feel sick.

I also stated that I do not consider myself a homophobe, but others will & do.

 

[Bender]

^ So you are yet to state your position on Lesbians, maybe that's another thread though.

My message will be heard be others. It's a misunderstood subject so I think touching on it from all angles will eliminate a lot of confusion.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

No, female homosexuals do not make me feel sick.