Homophobes

[Nut]

My ass is hurtin, right there in the ass crack..

*waits on ppl to tell me i'm gay*

 

[Kareem]

Don't think you understood my point.

Some people say homosexuals are born that way. In order to disprove that, you say that there hasn't been any genetic evidence.
But if they can't show that people are born straight through genetic evidence, they can't show sexual preference period. See what I'm getting at?
So saying that there isn't a gay chromosome isn't a valid argument because there isn't a straight chromosome either.

Until they find a way to show that people are born straight, they can't show that people are born gay.

And them not finding a gay chromosome doesn't prove anything either way. Just because they can't find it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

no i get what your saying, what i was trying to prove is that the basic response from people here is "Oh he or she was born gay" which is a myth thats no scientific proof at all which supports that. but there is proof that most of the time homosexulaity can be linked to some sort of tramatic event in that individuals life. a chromosome that makes you hetero i have no clue all i can say is from a scientific stand point its animal instinct which posses us to mate with the opposite sex. Like i said i do not condone or support homsexuality an yes i believe its wrong be what you will but dont shove it in my face an tell me to accept it as "normal" or else your some kinda homophobe is absurd. it is not the norm thats why its called "Alternative lifestyle" an no they shouldnt be granted the same right such as marriage, im not gonna pay for your health care when you contract hiv. its their life an who am i to judge but i will not condone it nor accept as a "norm". the whole point is if you let these people carry on with the masquerade of "We're born that way" which is completely false then next thing you'll know is the pedaphiles an rapists will make the same notion an ask for the same compromise. Pittsey asked why compare homosexuals to child molesters an rapists because all those groups claim they can not contain or control their feelings.

 

[Chronic]

no i get what your saying, what i was trying to prove is that the basic response from people here is "Oh he or she was born gay" which is a myth thats no scientific proof at all which supports that.

Doesn't prove it's wrong. There's simply no proof that it's right. Huge difference. So no, you don't know that it's a myth.

im not gonna pay for your health care when you contract hiv.

You would pay for a straight person that caught HIV then right?
Nowadays when you have sex there is always a risk. Sure anal sex has a higher risk but fact remains there's always a risk. So basically anyone that has sex risks catching HIV.
You say you won't pay for the health care of a gay person because gay sex has a higher risk, right? So where exactly is the border? At 40% risk? 50% risk? 52,5532% risk? Why will you pay for straight people that have sex knowing that there's a risk? Because they're not gay? Sounds like mindless discrimination to me.
And what about straight people that engage in anal sex? What about homosexuals that don't engage in anal sex?

Pittsey asked why compare homosexuals to child molesters an rapists because all those groups claim they can not contain or control their feelings.

LOL.
What are you saying? Either you're saying that homosexuals can't control themselves meaning that when they see a person of the same sex they just lose it and try to rape them. Well, that's complete and utter bullshit. Or you're saying that they claim that they can't help feeling attracted to people of the same sex. But... aren't heterosexuals like that too? I know I can't help but feel attracted to a girl when she's hot. So then heterosexuals are the same as child molestors too, if I go by what you're saying.

 

[one mc on dj]

Some stupid shit is going on...It is so easy to hate on gays..or to dislike someone or something that is different...Same with music...It is so easy to say gays fuck society up..It's so easy to blame them for HIV...You DO know the chance that gays infect you with HIV is so fucking small..I think you have more chance of gettin hit by a plane than gettin infected by a homosexual man who DIDN'T have sex with you....
My point: Gays only infect other gays...It's their problem...But ppl fear AIDS more than they fear Gays and who walk around the most with AIDS...? Gays...So now ppl fear gays too...Oh i 4got sumthing about what i said earlier..Gays COULD also infect you with HIV infected blood some give..and even than..The chance is still slim that you get that infected blood...
A Thousand years ago gaysex was the only type of 'enjoyable' sex that was allowed..women were only good for making children..And a lot of ppl including religious people got a childish attitude towards gay people...and a lot of other people just follow the mass try to get some credit from others...and say stupid shit..
It's like bullying the new kid....

 

[Kareem]

Doesn't prove it's wrong. There's simply no proof that it's right. Huge difference. So no, you don't know that it's a myth.



You would pay for a straight person that caught HIV then right?
Nowadays when you have sex there is always a risk. Sure anal sex has a higher risk but fact remains there's always a risk. So basically anyone that has sex risks catching HIV.
You say you won't pay for the health care of a gay person because gay sex has a higher risk, right? So where exactly is the border? At 40% risk? 50% risk? 52,5532% risk? Why will you pay for straight people that have sex knowing that there's a risk? Because they're not gay? Sounds like mindless discrimination to me.
And what about straight people that engage in anal sex? What about homosexuals that don't engage in anal sex?



LOL.
What are you saying? Either you're saying that homosexuals can't control themselves meaning that when they see a person of the same sex they just lose it and try to rape them. Well, that's complete and utter bullshit. Or you're saying that they claim that they can't help feeling attracted to people of the same sex. But... aren't heterosexuals like that too? I know I can't help but feel attracted to a girl when she's hot. So then heterosexuals are the same as child molestors too, if I go by what you're saying.

no your misunderstanding me im not saying every homosexual is lurking behind a tree waiting for the opportunity to rape someone, im saying the "born with it myth" ok, gays say" i was born this way so i can not help nor have a choice in my lifestyle", ok so what stops the career child molesters an rapists from making the same claim? nothing like that article i posted even the pro gay activist who has a phd said the born with it myth is simply that a myth an its used so society will be more "acceptable" of the lifestyle. Like i said i dont care, keep it to yourself an dont force it on people.

2nd one mc on dj yes you have a valid point that the gay community holds the highest percentage of hiv. but should it worry or effect the straight pop? because in that same gay community also lies the bi sexual community which is also a high carrier which in turn thows it over to the hetrosexual community, an yes i know the heterosexual community has hiv also without any homosexual actvity, the point being when you have someone who claims to be "bi" you've just thrown another bomb in the mix its a never ending cycle. anyway this discussion is going no where fast cause everyone has their opinion an their stuck in it an thats fine, nothing wrong with that so im done.

 

[Chronic]

no your misunderstanding me im not saying every homosexual is lurking behind a tree waiting for the opportunity to rape someone, im saying the "born with it myth" ok, gays say" i was born this way so i can not help nor have a choice in my lifestyle", ok so what stops the career child molesters an rapists from making the same claim?

Nothing stops them from making the same claim. But there's a law against child molestation and rape...

The only difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals is their sexual preference. Sexual orientation aside, they do the same basic things (I'm talking about normal, every day people). So sexual preference is what makes gay people not normal.

What does sexual preference have to do with rape and child molestation? Nothing.
Rape is not normal because one person is forced during the sexual act.
Child molestation is not normal because of the age difference and (mostly) the child is forced during the sexual act.

You can compare rape and child molestation because they have the force factor in common.
But how do you compare rape and child molestation to homosexuality then? By their claim "we were born this way, we can't help it"? If that's the way you're going to compare you can basically compare everything.

Wood and metal are alike because they're both hard.

"Like i said i dont care, keep it to yourself an dont force it on people."

Maybe they feel the need to express their pride because people have been telling them the exact opposite for years? It might get annoying but think about their situation and try to come up with some understanding. Are you a minority? If so you should understand them perfectly.
Are you religious? Do you know how annoying non-religious people think it is when religion is constantly thrown in their face?

 

[Luv4Pac4Ever]

k here ya go im sure someone here will blast this an say its biased but i couldnt find anything biased about it.

Yet the national organizations continue to offer the essentialist argument as a guide for law and public policy. No reputable scientist on either side of the political spectrum would disagree with the conclusion of Friedman and Downey. Even the gay-activist researchers themselves who studies have been used by the media to trumpet the message that homosexuality is biologically determined do not support the "born that way" myth.

Simon LeVay, the author of the hypothalamus study, noted, "It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that homosexuality was genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men were born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work" (Nimmons, 1994 , p. 64).

Dean Hamer, the author of the "gay gene" study, agreed: "We knew that genes were only part of the answer. We assumed the environment also played a role in sexual orientation, as it does in most, if not all behaviors...(Hamer and Copeland, 1994 , p. 82). Hamer further emphasizes, "Homosexuality is not purely genetic...environmental factors play a role. There is not a single master gene that makes people gay...I don't think we will ever predict who will be gay" (Mitchell, 1995 ).

LeVay, the gay activist researcher, made an interesting observation about the emphasis on the biology of homosexuality: He noted, "...people who think that gays and lesbians are born that way are also more likely to support gay rights"

http://www.narth.com/docs/essentialist.html

Are you seriously using something from 10/11 years ago as an argument? Do you know how much they've found out since then?
http://salmon.psy.plym.ac.uk/year1/psychobiology_site_backups/homosexuality-debate/xchromo.htm

Basically they're close to determining a specific region in the X chromosome. They say a gene for homosexuality seemed to be maternally linked and found on the Xq28 stretch of the X chromosome.
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/08-13-04/discussion.cgi.30.html

Then Teck Neex says they fluctuate. Why do you think that is? It has nothing to do with them not being born gay. They fluctuate to try and conform to society's standards. It's not socially acceptable to be gay so they try and be with a woman (or man, whichever the case may be) to be socially acceptable, not because they don't know what they want. You try to live with the hate and ridicule they have to live with and see if you don't do the same thing.
I believe they are born gay. I have a gay cousin and I knew she was gay from the beginning. Sure she dated guys when we were younger, maybe because she didn't want to be gay or maybe because she was trying to hide it, I don't know. But now, she could care less if people know she's gay. She lives with another woman and carries on a homosexual relationship with her. And she looks like a straight up man, always has been boyish.
99% of the time, you can look at someone and tell if they're gay. Have you ever known someone from childhood that turned out to be gay and you think back to when you were kids? How she looked and acted like a boy or how he was always real feminine acting? You see what I'm saying?

 

[kman_69]

your making us Australians look gay man!

lol j/k...


nah seriously, i think IF "homophobia" was refered to as an "ism" instead of a "phobia"...it would be taken much more seriously.

 

[S O F I]

who cares what Pac said/did.

the fact is ; "The Beautiful Men Thread" [or whatever it was] proved that people on this board are extremely homophobic. For fucks sake as if a guy cannot tell what guy is ugly and what guy can pull the chicks.

Grow up a little and get with the times you homophobes

I cannot tell if one guy is ugly.

 

[one mc on dj]

Now That We Have Mentioned I Say We Should Get Rid Of Those Ppl Who Let Themselves Infect With Hiv...on Purpose....<<<theres Some Crazy Fucks In This World...

 

[Illuminattile]

nah seriously, i think IF "homophobia" was refered to as an "ism" instead of a "phobia"...it would be taken much more seriously.

So what are you suggesting, "homoism" or "homism"? That sounds so...gay.

 

[S O F I]

I do not know why The One is trying to stress this problem. In 20 years or less, it's gonna be cool to be gay. Your kids are going to be bullied in school if they aren't gay. Instead of the Gay and Lesbian Rights group, there's going to be a Men Like Girl and Girl Like Men rebel group.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

^
lol, what bullshit!

 

[Rock]

using the bible as the foundation for hate is complete and utter crap....

 

[S O F I]

^
lol, what bullshit!

You don't see it developing? For Christ's sake, it's already cool to not believe in God.

 

[Swollen_Member]

i hate homophobes almost as much as i hate those gays

 

[Valeoz]

And them not finding a gay chromosome doesn't prove anything either way. Just because they can't find it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You do realize that argument doubtedly holds any water. It is a known fact there is no gay chromosome nor straight chromosome. There is a number of 46 chromosomes in total, scientists have the knowledge of every single chromosome, undoubtedly. If there was a sexual preference chromosome, we would have known about it 10 or more years ago, as a fact.

 

[one mc on dj]

I do not know why The One is trying to stress this problem. In 20 years or less, it's gonna be cool to be gay. Your kids are going to be bullied in school if they aren't gay. Instead of the Gay and Lesbian Rights group, there's going to be a Men Like Girl and Girl Like Men rebel group.

lmao that has got to be a joke

It will never be cool to be gay the only thing that could and should happen is that they will be accepted as normal human beings....
Seriously AIDS isn't just a gay or Bi thing its a thing we as humans have to deal with.

In 20 years you and your kids might move to a nice house with ya wife too offcourse...You will live next to a man who is gay. That gay neighbour off yours might just be THAT nice neighbour everyone wants to have...The type of neighbour you love to drink coffee with and chat with.There is nothing wrong with gays they can be just as nice and just as fucked up as heterosexual ppl....

Ya know it's bullshit to believe homosexuality will be a trend...Cuz the majority of ppl on this planet are heterosexual so it can only be accepted as something that is different but not wrong...

I don't see this happen in 20 years...

AGAIN...PPL ARE STUPID...!!!

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

You don't see it developing? For Christ's sake, it's already cool to not believe in God.

Were you being serious?

 

[not really ken]

I see it developing, S O F I S T I K speaks with foresight