dropping milk

I agree, but, see, once you eliminate over-sweet and over-salty, chemical-fake fast foods from your diet, your taste buds adjust and you start to find out what real food tastes like and realize what you thought was tasty, was very limited. That was my experience.

Yes, I know. My mom gave up on sugar and feels the same. She doesn't even add any sugar to anything and still most things seem sweet to her.
I'm only worried that if I do the same, things that I love won't be as tasty to me as they used to be.
 
i really cut back on my sugar in take in past year or so. I used to have about 3 spoons of sugar in my tea. Now if i do have sugar in my tea, i just take less than half a teaspoon. i hate it too sweet now.
 
I'm only worried that if I do the same, things that I love won't be as tasty to me as they used to be.
That's the whole idea, and it's a good thing. Then you won't love the stuff that's bad for you, and you'll be ready to explore the vast world of real foods and find healthy foods you'll love just as much.
 
there's casey again spreading his green propaganda. milk = bigger female booty. so drink piss!

i picture casey sitting with Tom Cruise and popping vitamin pills and talking about how they want to lick Prince's waxed asshole.

Soy milk is bad for your eyelashes, so drink piss and die. Remind me to send you a box of whale meat next christmas.

(I'm putting the life back in the passion)

you're a fucking bitch and if i see you i'll slit your throat, you cocksucking shit-eating, jizz-swallowing, ugly bum-ass genital-wart-having broke horse-shit-smelling son of a retarded obese hermaphroditic scum-sucking whore.

and for the record, Tom Cruise is a stupid scientology xenu-believing fuckstain.

so enjoy the taste of my salty nuts, sucka fo-teen.
 
you're a fucking bitch and if i see you i'll slit your throat, you cocksucking shit-eating, jizz-swallowing, ugly bum-ass genital-wart-having broke horse-shit-smelling son of a retarded obese hermaphroditic scum-sucking whore.

and for the record, Tom Cruise is a stupid scientology xenu-believing fuckstain.

so enjoy the taste of my salty nuts, sucka fo-teen.

lmao!
 
Warrr!

That's the whole idea, and it's a good thing. Then you won't love the stuff that's bad for you, and you'll be ready to explore the vast world of real foods and find healthy foods you'll love just as much.

That's the point. Right now I love eating a huge pizza, drink coke after that and it makes me feel great. It's one of those feelings I really love. I'm scarred that if I give it up no other food will give me that satisfaction.
 
Warrr!



That's the point. Right now I love eating a huge pizza, drink coke after that and it makes me feel great. It's one of those feelings I really love. I'm scarred that if I give it up no other food will give me that satisfaction.

Just start doing drugs.


On a serious note thats crazy to me. I remember when i used to eat a lot of fast food, I'd feel great when I was eating the pizza or the Mcdonalds but about 3 minutes after I finished eating I felt like complete and utter shit. Now I eat real food, as Jokerman put it, and I feel great while eating it and great after eating. Another thing I've noticed is that I rarely feel bloated after eating now that I've adjusted my diet.
 
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The Milk and Dairy industry is very similar to the Tobacco industry. I used to think my friends were crazy for all the anti milk talk but they were right, Ruk was one of them. Now I am onto Soy too.

Watch this; Cancer Milk, FOX being the devil, and the power of the Dairy industry:
[youtube]JL1pKlnhvg0[/youtube]
 
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In Poland there were billboards everywhere from a huge government action supporting milk (paid from the tax money I suppose). They said: "Drink milk and you'll be big" or something along those lines. Every tv ad block had an advertisement of dairy products too. There are various stars in those ads and some scientists saying that especially kids should drink a lot of milk and how super-healthy it is. I think they still can be seen sometimes but I barely watch tv lately.

Is milk more unhealthy than Coke? :)
 
i knew they weren't using that particular growth hormone on cows over here.

Its interesting how its banned everywhere except the US,
 
All you need to do is believe in yourself :)

when so much of yourself is influenced by your surroundings, and when it is those surroundings that reveal themselves to be false; doesn't "believing in yourself" translate to believing in something which doesn't really exist?
 
After reading this I don't understand how anyone can drink milk. You may as well drink urine.
If you liked that site, maybe you'll like this one as well:
9/11 was a Hoax: The American government killed its own people

Now, if I may... He initially goes:

"Now, we are a nation of milk drinkers. Nearly all of us. Infants, the young, adolescents, adults and even the aged."

Then, about 2 paragraphs further down, he uses an effectively unsourced quote (which is another point to make - I'll quote the head chief diet and nutrition researcher in Norway, Thorvald Haraldsson. He said "Stop using bullshit quotes to support your arguments".) from some decade old magazine. The funny thing is, the quote contradicts what I pasted above:

"Indeed, of all the mammals, only humans - and then only a minority, principally Caucasians - continue to drink milk beyond babyhood."

K. The whole article is made in a way that, every argument assumes that you already agreed with the previous argument. His use of language is sneaky. It's almost as if I read a "(am I right?)" behind all his sentences. I'm finding it hard to disagree with what he's typing, even when I do disagree with it. That obviously makes me question this whole bullshit. I don't feel like I'm reading the words of someone who, out of good intentions, want to inform me of this problem, if should I wish to take action against it. I feel like a person is telling me why I'm doing something wrong. It's as if he assumes that I'm consciously drinking milk BECAUSE I think it's so fucking great. Btw it's very USA-centric as well. About all those different substances found in milk around the U.S., yea, I'm not worried about those over here. Norway is cleaner than the U.S.

Also, I sort of take offense to your "I have no idea how anybody could drink milk". Not because I drink milk, but because I like to entertain the idea that I should be able to drink milk if I like it. I drank bad milk once, which made me quit milk for a year. Then I drank bad milk again, and now, every time I drink it that bad-milk-taste is convoluted in the actual milk taste. I don't fuck with it anymore.

I don't understand what you don't understand when it comes to people drinking milk. I think your diet sounds completely fucking disgusting. Soy burgers and rice milk? Lmao, I would commit suicide, no joke. Foods that involve meat are actually too important to my overall happiness (serious) for me to give them up. I might as well give up sex, or sleep. It's that essential to me. I could say the same thing to you, that I don't understand WTF you're thinking. But you already explained a million times what you're thinking, I know exactly what you're thinking, and even though I think it's fucking silly I don't try to belittle you with it by suggesting it is so obscure that I can't in fact guess what it is. If you were being serious, you are not intuitive enough to know if the information you read is true or not. If you can't understand why I am not disgusted with milk, truthfully, you have below average IQ. I actually think you have a pretty high IQ though, according to you, so that makes me believe you just said it just to be an ass, or used it to make a point that you somehow think is obvious, but that actually isn't. (Remember that you, as a vegan, are still a minority. Things that are obvious to you... You get where I'm going. It wasn't personal.)

So again I let you pull me into the vegetarian discussion lol. I'll explain why it bothers me so fucking much that you want to convert people. See, you have this strong opinion about a matter in which I have none. I am 100% fine with having no opinion about it, too. I like meat. I'll fucking eat it. Or if I feel like getting something else, I'll get something else. I'm not gonna feel bad about it, but I also don't want to have to think about it. I don't understand why you would want me to. Why do you try to impose guilt and sadness onto my life? What kinda fucked up person are you to be doing that? And you wanna say I'm mean cause I eat meat?

So yeah. I don't like it when people don't see the hipocrisy. Yes, I will call it hipocrisy when people can't accept that they're being weird about something. I play WoW, I don't pretend like it's my right and that you should respect it. I know it's the geekiest fucking thing in the world you could do. I expect to be namecalled. You should too, cause you're being a hippie with the food shit. I don't actually personally feel like you are, because I'm not like that, but that's the thing a lot of people could throw in your face and there would be other people out there agreeing with them. I'm not trying to use scientific data to prove you wrong in this discussion, never have. I'm not trying to get you to change your mind, I'm just trying you to let me have my opinion in peace without judging me for it.





Okay, if you read through what I wrote above which came 100% from the heart, pretend I wrote it to someone else and don't take it personally, and you will see why I can stomach the concept of drinking milk. We're totally fucking different dude. What you're doing, it's like trying to get an atheist to fear God. I'll turn your sentiment on you: I don't understand what would possess you to even question the act of drinking milk in the first place. Worry much? Not the starving children in Africa, not helping Tsunami victims in Asia. No. People that eat meat. That's the primary concern of the world. This is what I will now focus all my power on.

The point that I've always tried to make in all these vegetarian threads, the point I am still trying to make, is that I never said ANYTHING like that to you. Not until you started it. I didn't break the ice. The meat eaters of SH didn't start this war. It started with a vegetarian preaching vegeterianism. Then people disagreed, the vegetarian took it personal and started arguing back. You know, like all arguments start. I never tried to impose on you. I never tried to push my opinion down your throat, unless as a response to you doing the very same thing to me in the first place. I could very well make daily threads about why I think you vegetarians suck ass, but I respect your right to an opinion. And your cause happens to be noble, so even more respect!! Do me and all the people like me a favor and return the favor for the future. Just think about it. You can be a vegetarian without doing it like Jehova's witnesses. You can simply just be a vegetarian for you, like say Chronic for example.

I mean, ideally I'm sure I could rock the vegan style. My body could absolutely use it. Maybe one day I will. I assure you, that if you think you are planting seeds or whatever, you're not. Most people are intuitive, and whatever conclusion you've come to, we're all capable of it. I have my own little ongoing internal discussion about vegetarianism that you will not be able to affect though. I've lived for as long as you, I've had the same amount of thoughts in my life. The only data I take into account in my analysis of should I become a vegetarian or not, are those I observe when people aren't trying to sell me an idea, like that guy in the link you quoted. All your preaching is throwing a fork in the natural process I would have to go through to become a vegetarian though, because you try to make me feel like an idiot and thus turn it into a matter of ego and freedom. If it happens, it'll happen after I read a book on my own initiative, or after I get fed up with some annoyance like being overly stuffed with meat and feeling heavy. It will be the result of something that happens to me and only me. It will not happen when someone tries to make it happen. So not only does it annoy people, but it's counter-productive to your own cause to try and spread your ideas in such a manner as belittling those that disagree. If you think a little about yourself and how you respond to the same kind of sentiments, you know I'm right. If I made a thread dissing the genre of music you are in, and started giving you my arguments for why another genre of music is a better suited direction for you, what would your response be?

edit: all that said though, i should note that i'm just discussing for the sake of discussing. i don't really care lol. sorry i didn't get back to you on that pm btw, but yeah, all those things you mentioned sounds good. tshirts, all that shit :D I hit a financial stint but just hold 2 copies of the comp, 2 shirts, 2 of everything and i _will_ grab it off of you when I'm back in black (soon hopefully).
 
K the more I read what I put there, the more I can't help but think I'm being offensive. Whenver I say shit like "Don't use bullshit arguments to prove your points" and shit I'm just speaking out of passion for the matter we're discussing. I know it's gay as fuck to put a "don't get hurt by my post" disclaimer, just wanted to add that uh... Yeah don't worry so much about how I choose to put my points forth. It's all love.
 

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