Doctors "forced" to kill patients in New Orleans

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We had to kill our patients
by C AROLINE GRAHAM and JO KNOWSLEY, Mail on Sunday 09:01am 11th September 2005
New Orleans patient

New Orleans: Doctors forced to 'play God'
Doctors working in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans killed critically ill patients rather than leaving them to die in agony as they evacuated hospitals, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

With gangs of rapists and looters rampaging through wards in the flooded city, senior doctors took the harrowing decision to give massive overdoses of morphine to those they believed could not make it out alive.

In an extraordinary interview with The Mail on Sunday, one New Orleans doctor told how she 'prayed for God to have mercy on her soul' after she ignored every tenet of medical ethics and ended the lives of patients she had earlier fought to save.

Her heart-rending account has been corroborated by a hospital orderly and by local government officials. One emergency official, William 'Forest' McQueen, said: "Those who had no chance of making it were given a lot of morphine and lain down in a dark place to die."

Euthanasia is illegal in Louisiana, and The Mail on Sunday is protecting the identities of the medical staff concerned to prevent them being made scapegoats for the events of last week.

Their families believe their confessions are an indictment of the appalling failure of American authorities to help those in desperate need after Hurricane Katrina flooded the city, claiming thousands of lives and making 500,000 homeless.

'These people were going to die anyway'

The doctor said: "I didn't know if I was doing the right thing. But I did not have time. I had to make snap decisions, under the most appalling circumstances, and I did what I thought was right.

"I injected morphine into those patients who were dying and in agony. If the first dose was not enough, I gave a double dose. And at night I prayed to God to have mercy on my soul."

The doctor, who finally fled her hospital late last week in fear of being murdered by the armed looters, said: "This was not murder, this was compassion. They would have been dead within hours, if not days. We did not put people down. What we did was give comfort to the end.

"I had cancer patients who were in agony. In some cases the drugs may have speeded up the death process.

"We divided patients into three categories: those who were traumatised but medically fit enough to survive, those who needed urgent care, and the dying.

"People would find it impossible to understand the situation. I had to make life-or-death decisions in a split second.

"It came down to giving people the basic human right to die with dignity.

"There were patients with Do Not Resuscitate signs. Under normal circumstances, some could have lasted several days. But when the power went out, we had nothing.

"Some of the very sick became distressed. We tried to make them as comfortable as possible.

"The pharmacy was under lockdown because gangs of armed looters were roaming around looking for their fix. You have to understand these people were going to die anyway."

Mr McQueen, a utility manager for the town of Abita Springs, half an hour north of New Orleans, told relatives that patients had been 'put down', saying: "They injected them, but nurses stayed with them until they died."

Mr McQueen has been working closely with emergency teams and added: "They had to make unbearable decisions."
 
S O F I S T I K said:
It's hard to judge situations like this. I have no idea what I would do.

you could understand that they are in desperate situations. However if it were your parents, or yourself on the bed, You wouldn't agree with this kind of shit. Shit, it says the doctor said "these people were going to die anyway"... how tha hell could you say some shit like that, nobody has the right or the knowledge to say that.
 
Vaudeville said:
you could understand that they are in desperate situations. However if it were your parents, or yourself on the bed, You wouldn't agree with this kind of shit. Shit, it says the doctor said "these people were going to die anyway"... how tha hell could you say some shit like that, nobody has the right or the knowledge to say that.
Well they are doctors, they know a bit more about those things than we do. Some of those people may have been in very bad shape and would assuredly die. While I don't necessarily agree with this type of thing, I can see the doctor's point of view. It's not a choice I'd like to have to make
 
Devious187 said:
Well they are doctors, they know a bit more about those things than we do. Some of those people may have been in very bad shape and would assuredly die. While I don't necessarily agree with this type of thing, I can see the doctor's point of view. It's not a choice I'd like to have to make

That's beside the point. I'm saying this: Lets say all the physical signs, or the doctor's knowledge pointed at the fact that a patient will surely die. You still can't be sure 100%, I'm sure you have heard about someone who's been trapped underwater for like 20 minutes, common sense tells us that he's dead, so he comes out of the water, the Paramedics do their routine stuff, and the guy survives, my point? nobody ever knows for sure. It's just wrong doing this because there's not enough help. If you are going to do something, do it right, don't just go killing people because you can't go all the way.
 
"With gangs of rapists and looters rampaging through wards"
"she ignored every tenet of medical ethics and ended the lives of patients she had earlier fought to save"

Caroline Graham and Jo Knowsley can go fuck themselves with rusty iron maidens turned inside-out. Hyperbole is fun!
 

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