Did you like Makaveli album the 1st time you heard it?

[Fataldawg]

This question is mostly directed for the older cats on the board that followed Pac's career from the beginning/early in his career.. I remember when I bought it the 1st day it dropped, I wasnt that impressed. His style was just so different compared to his previous work and AEOM that was still in decent rotation at the time.. I remember I liked "To Live and die in LA", "Krazy", and "Bomb First" but I wasnt really feeling the other tracks at all.. Of course, today, that album is the shit (ahead of its time imo), since ive heard it thousands of times and got used to it.. Did anyone feel the same way I did back in '96???

 

[JarG]

no...

i loved it , i was just bumpin that allday

 

[Biological]

i don't recall having such thoughts about the album. i got the album for christmas that year along with Mobb Deep's Hell On Earth. i think now i can appreciate the Makaveli album more because i understand it alot more. back then i didn't even know what blasphemy ment,at first i thought Pac was saying "blast for me" and the first time i heard "me and my girlfriend" i really thought he was talking about his girlfriend "she may be 45 but she's still live" although i did think that line was strange at the time,it wasn't long after that i finally figured it out. but know matter what, every time i listen to it it still reminds me of that winter,rolling around with my homie in his mom's honda blazin blunts listening to that album.

 

[Dante]

i noticed the tracks that didn't fit immediately, and to this day i think they seriously hurt the overall impact of the album (but i understand why they're there). just like daddy and toss it up, i'm talking to you.

 

[Devious]

i remember thinking that some tracks weren't all that, but i liked the album right from day one. i just never fully appreciated it until after a few more listens.

 

[Pittsey]

I liked it but I didn't really appreciate it first play. Then again it's rare I do with an album. The 1st track I bumped was Me and My Girlfriend. But I hated the part where the gun speaks, if you know what I mean. Still hate it.

Love the whole album now, minus the 2 friendlier tracks. But Especially dislike Toss it Up.

 

[EriMakaveli]

just like daddy and toss it up, i'm talking to you.

Just Like Daddy has a darker tone to it (especially the drums), even though its a love song. I think Live And Die In LA and Toss it Up were the most out of place.

 

[KEP]

I can remember it well, I bought it at a local music store at 12AM. It was released to the public later that day when the stores opened, but the 12AM sale was not open to everybody. I also picked up Outkast Atliens. Both were released at the same time.
I immediately fell in love with both albums and still play them all the time. Though I'm probably the only person who didn't like and still don't care for 2 live & die in LA. The cover was a real shocker for me, but it grew on me and now I've bought a print from Riskie of it.

I knew then like I do now that this album was a CLASSIC.

I especially hate listening to kids today say that like rap but don't listen to AEOM & 7day theory, along with many of his earlier releases.

 

[Dante]

I can remember it well, I bought it at a local music store at 12AM. It was released to the public later that day when the stores opened, but the 12AM sale was not open to everybody. I also picked up Outkast Atliens. Both were released at the same time.
I immediately fell in love with both albums and still play them all the time. Though I'm probably the only person who didn't like and still don't care for 2 live & die in LA. The cover was a real shocker for me, but it grew on me and now I've bought a print from Riskie of it.

I knew then like I do now that this album was a CLASSIC.

I especially hate listening to kids today say that like rap but don't listen to AEOM & 7day theory, along with many of his earlier releases.

yep, i did the same thing. got mine at 12:01 am.

it was a mistake not marketing it as 2pac. i say that because most people were there for outkast, and had no idea makaveli was pac - even the trolls behind the counter had no idea. once i said to someone that it was pac people made a mad dash for the shelf. of course, subsequent shipments had the exit pac, enter makaveli sticker. much smarter.

it was pretty funny listening to atliens first and then switching over to makaveli. the stark differences was still something i remember very vividly. maybe that's why i love bomb first so much.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

it was a mistake not marketing it as 2pac. i say that because most people were there for outkast, and had no idea makaveli was pac - even the trolls behind the counter had no idea. once i said to someone that it was pac people made a mad dash for the shelf. of course, subsequent shipments had the exit pac, enter makaveli sticker. much smarter.

Well obviously Pac not being alive to say "Pick up my new album, Makaveli" was a big thing. Had he lived, he would've promoted it and everyone would've known it was him right when it was released. While not the smartest thing to switch to a new moniker, it was what Pac wanted, and Death Row obviously tried to let people know by putting out promotional posters with the Makaveli nameplate linked to pics from the All Eyez on Me photo shoot. I specifically remember the Best Buy newspaper advertisement labeling the artist name as "(2Pac) Makaveli" (with "2Pac" being a smaller font and "Makaveli" being a larger one), with a caption saying it was an album of new material. And despite the "mistakes" made, it managed to push 600,000+ units in its first week (if I remember the L.A. Times article correctly since my mom made me read it the week after the album came out) and certified at least 4X Platinum to date.

 

[KEP]

it managed to push 600,000+ units in its first week (if I remember the L.A. Times article correctly since my mom made me read it the week after the album came out) and certified at least 4X Platinum to date.

I could be wrong, but that # seems very high. Em, who sells more than anybody in almost every Genre, bearly gets over 600K in his 1st week of every release except his 1st.

yep, i did the same thing. got mine at 12:01 am.

Sweet. :thumb: That was the first time I've ever waited that late to buy a cd, as I usually would just buy after school or work.

it was a mistake not marketing it as 2pac. i say that because most people were there for outkast, and had no idea makaveli was pac - even the trolls behind the counter had no idea. once i said to someone that it was pac people made a mad dash for the shelf. of course, subsequent shipments had the exit pac, enter makaveli sticker. much smarter.

Yes, most people at the time had no idea it was Pac. I remember playing it at school the next day and people were like what Pac songs are those?

it was pretty funny listening to atliens first and then switching over to makaveli. the stark differences was still something i remember very vividly. maybe that's why i love bomb first so much.

Two extremely different styles but both are/were creative genuises. Both albums are classics:thumb: . I remember the next day going to buy Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik cause I never had it. Now I own all their albums except for a couple of edited ones.

Pac & Andre (when he raps) are 2 of my top 5 dead or alive.

 

[Mr.Deuce]

Yes!

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I could be wrong, but that # seems very high. Em, who sells more than anybody in almost every Genre, bearly gets over 600K in his 1st week of every release except his 1st.

If I remember correctly, the Makaveli first week album sales were around 644,000. And regarding Eminem, you are incorrect. The Marshall Mathers LP sold 1.76 million its first week (still holding the record for the best first week sales for a solo artist and for a rap/hip-hop album) and The Eminem Show also sold over 1 million its first week. Why is it so hard to believe that Makaveli sold so much its first week out? Keep in mind those days were before filesharing and writing CDs had exploded, and any album leaks at the time were typically cassette copies that were mailed out, so higher album sales are definitely possible.

 

[KEP]

If I remember correctly, the Makaveli first week album sales were around 644,000. And regarding Eminem, you are incorrect. The Marshall Mathers LP sold 1.76 million its first week (still holding the record for the best first week sales for a solo artist and for a rap/hip-hop album) and The Eminem Show also sold over 1 million its first week. Why is it so hard to believe that Makaveli sold so much its first week out? Keep in mind those days were before filesharing and writing CDs had exploded, and any album leaks at the time were typically cassette copies that were mailed out, so higher album sales are definitely possible.

Only because of the lack of promotion. I don't remember the MMLP selling that much, but by the time that album was release, I already had the troublesomecds leak of the cd cause at the time I loved the Song "I just don't give a F*ck" but once his cd was released he had that single Hi my name is and I had played him so much that I couldn't stand him anymore and haven't really cared for him since.

But you could be right. I would love to beleive it as it only shows how much people loved him back then.

What do you think his sells would be today if 7day theory was released for the first time today?

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Only because of the lack of promotion. I don't remember the MMLP selling that much, but by the time that album was release, I already had the troublesomecds leak of the cd cause at the time I loved the Song "I just don't give a F*ck" but once his cd was released he had that single Hi my name is and I had played him so much that I couldn't stand him anymore and haven't really cared for him since.

You're thinking of The Slim Shady LP, which debuted behind TLC's Fan Mail on the Billboard charts, which came out on the same day. The Marshall Mathers LP came out afterward, containing The Real Slim Shady, The Way I Am, Stan, etc.

But you could be right. I would love to beleive it as it only shows how much people loved him back then.

Definitely. Me being born and raised in Southern California, it was hard to not hear a Pac song on a radio station, MTV, BET or in from a car driving by in 1996. Even a lot of my friends who weren't big rap fans and listened mostly to Metallica and music of all sorts owned All Eyez on Me.

What do you think his sells would be today if 7day theory was released for the first time today?

If it were left in the exact same form but released today and with Amaru's current half-assed efforts, it probably would've reached double platinum overall. Keep in mind they would've had the Toss It Up and To Live & Die in L.A. videos that are real and not pointless videos like Thugz Mansion and Ghetto Gospel. But this is all speculation, there are too many factors.

 

[B.Lorenzo]

Luv'd it, I still remember w8ing in that long line that stretched around the corner of this little strip mall @ Midnight. I was there with my girl and my homeboys were spread out all thru the line, all you heard in the parking lot was that Bomb 1st and Hail Mary. 10 Years later not only me but my boy'z feel the same way about it-Classic....

 

[Makaveli2k4]

When you listen to any song on the makaveli album, you gotta dissect the lyrics and when you do, you be like "Whoa, thats shit is deep."

 

[Preach]

was never really bothered by just like daddy and toss it up. i agree they're not among the best of songs though.

just like daddy, however, got such hot drums!

 

[ManiacDego]

no...

i loved it , i was just bumpin that allday

:thumb:

 

[bohorquez1]

I agree that toss it up doesn't belong, but I've always had a thing for Just Like Daddy. I think maybe people subconsciously hate it because 2pac doesn't have the hottest verse, it's all downhill after the first.