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S O F I

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Who has seen this movie? It's pretty good. Lots of specific insights and comments in the movie coming from the director. One of them that caught my mind was what Ludacris said in the beginning of the movie, for those that watched it.
 

PuffnScruff

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when i saw it a few months ago, i felt it was good, but a little over hyped. maybe even a little over rated as well. just my thoughts

i can already feel im going to get some hate for saying that.
 

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PuffnScruff said:
when i saw it a few months ago, i felt it was good, but a little over hyped. maybe even a little over rated as well. just my thoughts

i can already feel im going to get some hate for saying that.
Do you remember what Luda was saying about hip-hop? Do you think it was a mock statement of hip-hop critics, or was the director serious about it?
 

PuffnScruff

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S O F I S T I K said:
Do you remember what Luda was saying about hip-hop? Do you think it was a mock statement of hip-hop critics, or was the director serious about it?
i only watched it once. could you remind me of what he said?
 

S O F I

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*SPOILER*

Well, he said about how back in the 50s and 60s, there were smart and articulate Black men. Then, he said something along the lines of how Whites gave blacks hip-hop music so they wouldn't have to go to school and could just mumble stupid things on the mic and how most of the time they say shit that can't even be understood. There's more, I forgot. Then, regarding the n-word, he said: "It's just black people demeaning other black people, using that word over and over. You ever hear white people callin' each other "honky" all the time? "Hey, honky, how's work?" "Not bad, cracker, we're diversifying!"
 

PuffnScruff

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S O F I S T I K said:
*SPOILER*

Well, he said about how back in the 50s and 60s, there were smart and articulate Black men. Then, he said something along the lines of how Whites gave blacks hip-hop music so they wouldn't have to go to school and could just mumble stupid things on the mic and how most of the time they say shit that can't even be understood. There's more, I forgot. Then, regarding the n-word, he said: "It's just black people demeaning other black people, using that word over and over. You ever hear white people callin' each other "honky" all the time? "Hey, honky, how's work?" "Not bad, cracker, we're diversifying!"

i have to say there is some truth to that. i dont think that white people gave blacks hip hop music by any means. you cant make someone be artistic (well maybe if you lived in north korea) or creative. but for the most part it is pretty much on point.
but whites didnt make blacks not attend school. that is a choice that an idividual makes if they want to be educated or not.

there was an episode of the boondocks were huey had a dream that MLK was never killed but slipped into a coma and awoke in 2000. parts of the episode focued on how stupid it is for blacks to use the n-word towards each other. it touched on some other very important issues of today also, like the black men of past days were more articulate and very intelligent compared to some of todays modern black men that walk around trying to be thugs that talk with ghetto slang.
 

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What also intrigued me is the way that Blacks(African Americans, in case of somebody trying to preach political correctness) were portrayed in the movie. Particularly, the successful ones. The boss of that rookie cop, the one that the rookie complained to, the director that was harassed by the police, and the detective. The police chief/boss had been on the force for seventeen years and gave a hint on how he was able to retain his position by not speaking out about the corrupt, racist, white men on the force. Then, the director, he basically gave in to White people and their bigotry, especially when that guy on the set asked him to do a re-take because the black kid wasn't talking "Black" enough. He granted the dude's wishes. Then, also, the way the white cop harassed his wife and he did nothing about it. The last one is the police detective. He succumbed to DA's wishes, to frame the White cop as a murderer that killed the Black cop. Although, there had been suspicion since 300k were found in the Black guy's Mercedes. Now, the poor/unsuccessful Blacks(luda and larenz tate) were the ones that rebelled against the "White man" and stole from them.

So, what is the director trying to say here? Is he off his rocker, or is he portraying the way the society actually is?
 

PuffnScruff

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i wouldnt say all of society is that way. not even the majority. maybe a small part of it. a small part that is dying out.

i always felt that the movie was too little too late. like it was a movie that would have had a bigger impact 10-15 years ago. i think the director was more or less portraying l.a. in the 90s. but maybe im just crazy. then again the only thing i know of l.a. is what i see in movies, tv, music, and all around media.
 

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PuffnScruff said:
i wouldnt say all of society is that way. not even the majority. maybe a small part of it. a small part that is dying out.

i always felt that the movie was too little too late. like it was a movie that would have had a bigger impact 10-15 years ago. i think the director was more or less portraying l.a. in the 90s. but maybe im just crazy. then again the only thing i know of l.a. is what i see in movies, tv, music, and all around media.
That's funny. I felt so too. It's like, the message that it tries to send out has been sent out so many times now. Like you said, 10-15 years ago, it would have sent a real strong message to the society that would have opened our eyes up. Or, even like 3 years ago. Although, I'm ranting since I had no clue how society was then, but still, lol.
 

S. Fourteen

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It's a good, well made film about different characters and the racism they deal with.

Is it deep? Good question. The subject matter is deep, it's racism. We are reminded that it's about racism in practically every scene and not only that, they make sure you know by making it very obvious. Wow Tony Danza just made a racist remark without knowing it and I didn't even have to think about it too much. Most of the film is like that. I think the film could have been deep if it wasn't so one dimensional.

The film is able to carry itself because of the actors. Great works done by Dillion, Howard, Cheadle and Thandie Newton is so cute :D There are some memorable moments and lines in the film that stick to me. The film end half happy and half sad. Yes, right in the middle and that's how it felt. As I sat there and looked at the credits, I was left with very little emotion. I didn't say WOW, VERY MOVING. It was just "cool, good movie". ( oh.. and extra points for the screenplay and Jennifer Esposito's boobies)

I got more emotional watching Tupac: Resurrection.
 
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Yes it was a very good movie. It showed some people's views. Another similar movie was "American History X" but in that the hate was more toward the African Americans.
 
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PuffnScruff said:
when i saw it a few months ago, i felt it was good, but a little over hyped. maybe even a little over rated as well. just my thoughts

i can already feel im going to get some hate for saying that.
i AGREE WITH YOU.........


this movie was a decent movie (not all that), what made it GARBAGE in my mind was that critics wanted to make this movie the best since crouching tiger hidden dragon (which was another CRAP of shyt), while i'm at this stage i might also add that city of god WAS ALSO A OVER HYPED MOVIE


amores perros, american history X, shottas/or third world cop, and hero before it was BROUGHT to the states are way better cinema made with minor hype and $, yet earned its justified credit WORLDWIDE........
 

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