lol freshprince ive only said that once
i respect and always try to not flame anyone about peoples opinions
I never accused you of saying it more. It just struck me because I'm 28 years old and have been using the internet for about 11 years now, and the one thing that has never changed was the fact that anywhere you go on the net into a discussion forum, if you disagree with somone, you're automatically labelled by that person as "wrong" or "stupid", or whatever.
So...all's I'm saying is respect me and I'll respect you. I may disgree with something you say, but I won't tell you you're stupid or wrong for saying it.
but the reason i said that is simple, cause its a fact and not my opinion
Well, I never disagreed with you on that. No doubt 50 is probably the hottest rapper out right now. But...that doesn't mean he's a good businessman.
and i think popularity matters to whether or not your a good buss man
No, it doesn't. Popularity has nothing at all to do with your business skills. I have SEVERAL family members who own their own business. Popularity ain't got to do with shit.
and i dont know how deep into the buss were talkin about in this thread but if its running labels and clothin line etc etc, most of the successful bussmens in the hip hop industry were hit artists before eg snoop jay em dre so i think the popularity as a rapper is prety important
Dude, you're problem here is that you're mixing up being a rapper with being a business man. It's not the same thing, not close. Of course popularity as a rapper is important. I can't even believe you said that. It's like the biggest "duh" in the world. Of course popularity as an artist is important...fuck...it's everything. You have no popularity, you sell no records. But..that has NOTHING TO DO with business skills. It helps with name recognition, but that's it. And you asked how deep into the business we're talking. I'm not referring to clothing lines. My intention of this thread is very clear from post #1. I said I wanted to know if you all think 50 can be as good of a label head as Eminem or Jay. That was the exact question.
And of course being a popular rapper before going into starting your own other business is a huge help. If Snoop had never been one of the countries best rappers and now most legendary, he wouldn't have gotten a lot of the stuff he has. I mean, hell, Snoop is probably the worst fucking actor on the planet. But the man has tons of movie roles under his belt.
as for 50 gettin involved with other albums i think itll help with the sales a lot. i think if he signs a good underground artist, prmote him well and does a few tracks and the single with him, the artist will probably sell 2-4 times more
I disagree. It's been proven with both Nelly and the St. Lunatics as well as with Eminem and D12. Just because you're a star, whoever you push up under you will NOT automatically sell just because of that star's clout. I mean, the St. Lunatics put out one album, and they've kinda disappeared since, with the exception of Murphy Lee.
Same thing with D12. If your theory were correct, D12 World should have sold in excess of 2 or 3 million. I'm not sure what it did do, but I know I'd be surprised if it surpassed 2 million.
and i dont agree with you on the third point either, not sayin your wrong but just dont agree with you cause how can you make good money when your workin with crappy artists?
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Lots of people do it every day. Eminem is doing it with 50 as we speak. I mean, ok, for real here. Put 50's image aside. Put his popularity aside, as an overall rapper, 50 Cent is not good. He makes some good club bangers and that's where it ends. He has no substance. I mean, fuck, 2pac was just maybe 2 steps over lyrically average, but he was the most respected and revered rapper because of the heart and soul he put into his shit. When you put on a Pac record, before it starts you know you can count on 2 things:
1. Depending on the record, you'll either be bumpin' like a mofo, crying like a mofo, or thinking like a mofo. and
2. You'll know that Pac put his entire body and soul into every word of every lyric in that song.
50 doesn't have these things. I mean, overall, 50 Cent is a crappy artist. Another point is Vanilla Ice. I mean, not only was he not writing his own stuff, but he was turned out to be a fucking fraud, yet he sold SHIT LOADS of records. I mean, really, when he was at his peak, for about 2 minutes Vanilla Ice got to see the popularity Eminem has gotten and maintained.
So...there's your answer.
when you cant market those crappy artists or when they cant sell as many records as good artists?
I belive I already covered this above.
also when you asked the question, you said will he be able to sign some heavyweights...and thats why i said once he signs some aritsts and make em big, some heavyweights artists will seek contracts with 50
Why? You think just because 50 can sign Joe Schmo from Shitville, Idaho, and make him sell 2 million that Nas and a bunch of other heavy lifters are gonna flock to 50? I don't see that happening.
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Dave D:
50 is at the top of the game at the moment, im not talking skills im talking industry. And when you are at the top, you have to constantly expand to stay on top wether you own a restaurant or are in the music industry. He is a marketing genious and to answer your question, he will be a biger business man than those two can ever hope to be.
Really? Wow...that shocks the shit out of me. You actually think 50 will be a better businessman than someone like Jay Z? OK...now I think you're high.
Damn...I don't get why so many people are giving this clown love. I just don't get it.
