Console & Gaming Thread

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Man, tech hardware is such a weird thing and these gaming console are no different. The Series X is supposed to be a good bit more powerful than the PS5 yet the PS5 variants of many games are running better than the X, according to Digital Foundry and a few other sources. Some attributing it to Sony having the dev kit available for over a year for developers while the X was more like 6-9 months. I guess that's all important but it's made worse by the fact that all three consoles stumbled out of the gates from their release dates and it just keeps getting worse in one way or another. Either supply issues or game-breaking glitches (Cold War shutting down machines), or hardware issues (PS5 fan/coil whine, Xbox de-syncing of controllers). Someone said repeatedly over the past month or two that Sony and MS should have waited until next year to release the consoles. Supply seems low and is exacerbated by scalpers that are hoarding units and then the release seems rushed too with many QC issues than were expected (I'm assuming).

Top it off with pretty much a handful of exclusives between both systems and it doesn't feel worth it to spend $300, $400, or $500 on a console that's just going to play enhanced versions of last-gen's games.


Also, I finally beat DMC5. Fun game but I still feel like I did something wrong as the game wasn't as challenging as DMC4. And 4 wasn't all that challenging either. I played on Human mode, which I know is meant to be not-hard, but this felt like a step below that. I'm not complaining since I enjoyed the game a ton more not getting stuck with puzzles or boss fights but I still find it peculiar I made it through so fast. There were a few missions that were definitely short, like 15 minutes short. And there's only 20 missions total.


Now Casey and masta have been mentioning Yakuza for quite some time now and I'm debating giving it a shot as my next game. I'd have to figure out which one to start with since Casey said that the PC versions weren't completely there and some were missing that could take away from the story.

The other game I'm looking at is The Outer Worlds. That looks interesting but it's rather new and I worry about performance on the RX 580 in Boot Camp on an i7 7700HQ.

I thought about Fallout 4 (I heard FO3 was not optimzed for Win 10 and people had to jump through hoops to get it to work) since it's like $8, or $20 for the GOTY edition. But I'm also thinking about getting a more casual game, that's more pick up and play. i'm avoiding spending on games that are on Gamepass in case I do end up getting GPU in the future. If Square announced a date for the FF7 Remake coming to PC, I might look in to that.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Due to my hoarding problem, it turns out that I'd been redeeming codes from giveaways from stores like Origin, Epic, etc. with the belief that one day I'd get around to gaming on Windows. I had Watch Dogs 2 just sitting there so I installed that last night and gave it a go. Not a fan of the camera hacking and stealth aspect of the game but....free is free lol. And it's a highly reviewed game so I'll give it more of a chance. If not, I have GTA 5, which was also free on the Epic Store.

It makes me wonder why console gaming isn't as "fragmented" as PC gaming when it comes to game stores. Why hasn't uPlay, Epic, Steam, Origin, etc. come to consoles? I'm kind of glad it hasn't because games would be all over the place by why is it tolerated on PC for PC gamers?
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Nah, only way I could play is on PC and I might be good with that after reading about the bugs on it, initially. Might wait a bit

RIP to OG Xbox One and PS4 owners, though. Heard the game looks real bad on there.

Also Yakuza coming to Gamepass. Not all of them but like 4+ titles.
 

yak pac fatal

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Nah, only way I could play is on PC and I might be good with that after reading about the bugs on it, initially. Might wait a bit

RIP to OG Xbox One and PS4 owners, though. Heard the game looks real bad on there.

Also Yakuza coming to Gamepass. Not all of them but like 4+ titles.
My game crashes on the original PS4 here and there but still annoying as hell. Surprisingly didn't run into any glitches just minor frame rate issues. Well, damn I didn't want to get a PS5 any time soon but looks like I gotta now.
 

masta247

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Nah, only way I could play is on PC and I might be good with that after reading about the bugs on it, initially. Might wait a bit
It works like crap on PC anyway. You need a REALLY powerful one to brute force the poor optimization.
Hopefully they release performance patches and bug fixes over the next couple of weeks/months getting the game to a much more playable state for all platforms.

Also Yakuza coming to Gamepass. Not all of them but like 4+ titles.
Hell yeah, I just found out that they're coming to PC as well. They said by March 25 they're releasing the last one, Yakuza 6, making all main Yakuza games available on PC. This is amazing!
I bought Yakuza 7 but still haven't played it. Might as well wait then. I don't mind that it'll be cheaper then, I bought the most expensive edition anyway to support the devs, as I love the series.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
My game crashes on the original PS4 here and there but still annoying as hell. Surprisingly didn't run into any glitches just minor frame rate issues. Well, damn I didn't want to get a PS5 any time soon but looks like I gotta now.

Yeah, I read the OG units of both consoles had issues running it. Can you imagine if this game was released in April, or something, before all those delays happened? Before the Series X and PS5 were released, it would have just looked like an utter shit game no matter which Xbox One or PS4 model you owned. Current-gen consoles saved CDPR's asses, in some sense. It could have been a lot worse.

It works like crap on PC anyway. You need a REALLY powerful one to brute force the poor optimization.
Hopefully they release performance patches and bug fixes over the next couple of weeks/months getting the game to a much more playable state for all platforms.



Hell yeah, I just found out that they're coming to PC as well. They said by March 25 they're releasing the last one, Yakuza 6, making all main Yakuza games available on PC. This is amazing!
I bought Yakuza 7 but still haven't played it. Might as well wait then. I don't mind that it'll be cheaper then, I bought the most expensive edition anyway to support the devs, as I love the series.
I wonder how it would run on mid settings, though, on an RX 580, or something. After the patches, of course, not in the state it's currently in. I'm not going to try it any time soon. The game looks nice but it's also one of those "open world" games that feel cliche to me. I had Watch Dogs 1, or 2, via the Epic Store and quickly got bored with it. Looked nice but it's not for me. I think the big draw to Cyberpunk is how long its been in development and the celebs on board with the voice for characters.

The Game Awards brought out some more unveilings of new games, like Perfect Dark.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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If people put the work in they could easily get a next generation console. I could have ordered six PS5s easily and cancelled a Series S from Amazon. My pal missed all the Xbox preorders but I gave him a heads up when more were available and he had one on release day. Expecting to pop to the shops and get one is why people missed out. Find out when stock is going live, get on your laptop, order, job done.


I have discovered that I'm probably passed gaming though. I've played about 5 minutes on the PS5 since we got it. But, I didn't actually buy it for me. I'm sure if GTA6 lands, that will change
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
If people put the work in they could easily get a next generation console. I could have ordered six PS5s easily and cancelled a Series S from Amazon. My pal missed all the Xbox preorders but I gave him a heads up when more were available and he had one on release day. Expecting to pop to the shops and get one is why people missed out. Find out when stock is going live, get on your laptop, order, job done.


I have discovered that I'm probably passed gaming though. I've played about 5 minutes on the PS5 since we got it. But, I didn't actually buy it for me. I'm sure if GTA6 lands, that will change

Might be different in the UK; in the US, it's a mix between in-store drops and online preorders and it looks like scalpers have both bases covered very well. Bots scoop the stuff up on line and in stores there are people who work at the retailer buying them up. Just last week there was a popular video of a woman who was first of five in line at Wal Mart at 3 AM to pick one up when it opened at 8 and she had video of WalMart employees purchasing PS5s right before her after she was supposedly the first one in. She recorded her exchange calling them out since they told her they only had 4 units and they were all sold out, despite her being first in line and seeing employees taking them. I think she eventually got one, but it feels like at every corner there's someone metaphorically cutting the line to get one, somehow someway.

It happens in the UK too since I've read stories about retailers cancelling suspected reseller orders but it's definitely the worst in the US. It feels like there more venues there are to purchase a console, the worse the scalping is. MS's own website gets hit by them constantly, forget about Best Buy, Walmart, etc.

I'm not desperate for a console and don't mind waiting but it's pretty shitty that it's still happening and MS and Sony and retailers are having such a hard time countering it.
 

Casey

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That is very much not the entire franchise.

It's missing Yakuza 3, 4, 5 and 6, as well as Judgement, which is technically a spin off but I consider to be part of the franchise since it has the same location, families, and almost identical mechanics. I think these are not on Steam yet, only on Playstation. Also Yakuza : Dead Souls but that never got a re-release post PS3. I believe 3-6 have been announced as coming to Steam, but not sure about Judgement.

There's also other games like Yakuza Ishin and Yakuza Kenzan - but these never got localized for Western releases, so were only ever available in Japan, and in Japanese.
 

masta247

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The Yakuza 0 deal is amazing, and it's also the best entry into the Yakuza series. I highly recommend giving it a go - try it out, play a couple of chapters and you'll know whether it's your cup of tea. Personally, that game was probably the most fun I've had with any video game since my teenage years and it's what got me hooked on the Yakuza series as it's also the first one I had a chance to play, and while it came out a bit later it's chronologically the first one in the original story and the best place to start.

Judgement and other spin-offs that Casey mentioned are still missing but they are spin-offs. You can now play the entire original storyline from start to finish on Steam/PC starting from Yakuza 0, and by the time you pass Kiwami 1 & 2 all the others will be out as well, up to 6 completing the original arc which will be out on Steam in March. I'm playing 7 since I couldn't wait and will have to live with some spoilers (apparently minor as it's a brand new story arc), but it's just so worth it - I'm having an absolute blast.

I never expected that Cyberpunk that I waited for years for could feel so empty and unimpressive after a random game made by this small Japanese studio. The worlds that they create are probably second to none - there is still a lot of room for improvement as you can see they were working with limited budgets, but they just feel so much more vivid and alive than probably anything else I ever played. Can't recall the last time I felt like I'm living in the actual city the game is portraying, probably ever since Shenmue. Some of the people who made Shenmue are still working on the Yakuza series though so that might be why. I don't remember ever feeling so alive playing any other game series though.
 
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Casey

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Agreed - Yakuza 0 has to be my favorite game of the past few years.

I even rank it above TLoU and Uncharted 4, which were both incredible. It just has so much heart, a brilliant storyline, and is both engaging, deep, emotional and hilarious.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
There are rumors than UbiSoft Plus, or whatever their subscription service is called, is coming to GamePass.

I don't see how MS continues to offer GPU for the cost of Live plus $1. Or even the full price of buying 4*3 month cards, which I think is $90? I know MS has deep pockets and can operate at a loss for quite some time but I have a feeling they're about to jack up the prices and make the deal not as "sweet" as it has been so far.
 

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