Artificial Intelligence

[Rukas]

Since there's an unlimited number of numbers it's practically impossible for you to program a computer to pick one of them at random. Computers don't have enough memory.

Neither does a human, therefore an artificial representation of human like intelligence would not need to either.

 

[Illuminattile]

Neither does a human, therefore an artificial representation of human like intelligence would not need to either.

True. I can't think of many situations where you would require a truly random number.

Kosen, how does the slot machine thing work?

 

[The.Menace]

One of my professors had a friend who did this, and he won something like 3 jackpots in 30 minutes( he was arrestted).

For what? knowledge?

 

[Rukas]

For what? knowledge?

Its probably the same principle that makes counting cards illegal.

 

[Kosen]

My professor is banned from many casinos in vegas and several indian reservations. He counts cards.. hes written several books.

I dont know how, exactly, the slot machine thing worked, but this is how i was told.
Basically, the guy figured out the sequence of random numbers that a slot machine generates. Thus, he could tell you what would appear on your next pull. The reason he got arrested was because its illegal to use this knowledge to play. They traced back his histroy and found out about him. I dont know how he himself got the sequence.

The jist of what i was trying to say is that we are far from real AI, as evidenced from our lack of knowledge concerning random number generators. If you can predict the next sequence of events, then it isnt random. Hence, if someone can predict the next movements of AI, then it isnt intellience persay.

 

[not really ken]

As for the possibility of AI, sure its possible. Its totally possible, all it would take he creating a code (program) that could re code and adapt itself infinitely. Now, thats easier said than done, coding is difficult and there are a lot of variables that if introduced could kill the program. But, if you managed to write a programming language that could reprogram itself and adapt itself and "evolve," AI is totally possible. Once this code is written you dont even need to program anything into it at all. You program the essentials, the ability to program and upgrade and evolve itself, and leave it running. And like a new born it will learn. It will see that it cant do certain things, like a baby learns not to touch hot things, and then it wont program these things in, and it will learn its short comings in other aspects and program in counter balances.

It is possible, and it is coming.

I agree with this. This technology actually exists (somwewhat). They are known as knowledge based agents. It works on two principles. TELL and ASK

TELL- what the agent programme has been told or programmed with originally
ASK- then the agent programme is asked to perform a task based on what it already knows

The other principle that it has incorporated within is the inference rule.
The agent can infer new knolwedges based on what already exists within its knowledge base

eg. All people who drive silver cars are millionaires akll people who drive black cars have very little money. When the agent see's somebody owns a silver car, it infers that this person has lots of money therefore can purchase whatever expensive products their company is selling.

But Rukas is right, the 'tables of knowledge' would be infinite and it would take a lifetime for the agent to build these and even then the memory would need to be infintie almost.
The evolvement would be totally inference based. it would have to infer everything it knows based on the existing knowledge given. And God forbid that the original knowledge becomes false becasue then everything that the agent has inferred would become false and the agent would be useless.

 

[The.Menace]

Its probably the same principle that makes counting cards illegal.

Well I wonder about that too. I mean, as long as someone is using nothing but his brain to do it - what's wrong with it?

I guess who has the money has also the power.