Animal Testing

[Story]

^ how can we test a cure of cancer on charles manson if he doesnt have it


ok then in this case.

1. no more milk, why milk a cow thats wrong
2. no more meats, why kill an animal for food, thats wrong.
3. no more animals as pets, who are we to control an animals life

 

[Glockmatic]

no more cutting down trees and making paper, they make our air and air is good

 

[Illuminattile]

no more cutting down trees and making paper, they make our air and air is good

We probably shouldn't cut grass either, grass is alive.

 

[Glockmatic]

we shouldn't eat food either, because everything we eat was once alive

 

[Story]

plants are living entities, as are bacterias and the like, so no more food for us...

yes so lets just die of diseases and starvation, VIVA LA REVOLUTION

 

[not really ken]

No, it's none of those reasons. It's because we're the dominant species. If you object to animal testing, do you object to using animals for anything? Pets? Police dogs? Meat? Dairy products?

How the hell have you reached these conclusions. How does keeping a cat as a pet actually have any kind of negative affect on it. How can testing on an orphan and keeping that orphan as part of your family be concluded as being equal.
Your argguments are getting petty and childish!

 

[not really ken]

plants are living entities, as are bacterias and the like, so no more food for us...

yes so lets just die of diseases and starvation, VIVA LA REVOLUTION

How exactly will stopping animal cruelty kill us via starvation?

 

[AnarchistFunk]

ok then in this case.

1. no more milk, why milk a cow thats wrong
2. no more meats, why kill an animal for food, thats wrong.
3. no more animals as pets, who are we to control an animals life

man you guys are like lil kids, you should do research and open up your mind,

1) No you shouldn't for moral and health reasons, the calcuim in cow milk is made for baby cows not human beings, the calcuim is too strong for your body to digest

2) No you shouldn't , everything you get from eating meat is what the animal got from grazing in pastures, so cut off the middle man (the dead body on your plate) and go straight to the source

3) I'll take an animals as pet as long as it's saving its life from a earth destructing person like yourself


And yes you should stop cutting down trees for paper, it destroys the air, like Abraham Lincoln proved many times, Hemp Paper is stronger, easier to grow and produce, and not harmful for the environment around us

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

1) No you shouldn't for moral and health reasons, the calcuim in cow milk is made for baby cows not human beings, the calcuim is too strong for your body to digest

Can you go into more detail on this?

Not questioning whether it's right, just interested.

Thanks.

 

[AnarchistFunk]

Just look it up on the net

The Dairy industry is a huge multi billion dollar industry

heres a nice short one i found using google

http://www.argee.net/Thrawn Rickle/Thrawn Rickle 26.htm

 

[Story]

lol at the reasons on this page, if its cruel to test animals, its cruel to kill them for food and use them for dairy products.


pz

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

Thanks a lot AnarchistFunk.

Although I know not to believe everythig I read, some very valid points are made in that article & I think I will be cutting down my milk intake.

 

[Illuminattile]

How the hell have you reached these conclusions. How does keeping a cat as a pet actually have any kind of negative affect on it.
Your argguments are getting petty and childish!

You think cats enjoy being neutered, having their claws removed and being carried around in boxes?

But what about my other points? If I didn't know you better, I'd think you were trying to use a Straw Man argument.

 

[not really ken]

^how does one justify the other. Do two wrongs make a right. Stick to the topic.
Dairy products? Well can your evolution explain why cows for example produce more milk than neccessary? And why do hens lay surplus eggs?

Meat? Im glad our ancestors in the caves didn't think like this. Imagine mr cave man waiting around for the crops to grow in winter. Eating meat is our instincts and is for basic survival. Checking how a chimp is affected by botox injections is useless.

Police Dogs? You know as well as me that police dogs are treated very well. Besides these dogs are actually tamed to be comftable in human contact situations. Imagine puttting a poodle out inthe jungle with hyenas and dingos. It wouldn't last an hour!

First it was bad spelling and now its straw man

 

[Silleone]

A BUNCH OF FUCKING HIPPIE ASS TREE HUGGER(aka NAZIS), seriously, animals are NOT equal to us, an animal, is an animal, if animals were to have equal rights then all of them would be in jail, they would be killing each other(murder)killing humans(manslaugter),beating up and fighting in public,urtinating,shitting eating OTHER ANIMALS in public, what do u expect humans to do.

should we just all pass out and die, AF said we shouldnt be eating prosessed food, u do realise that processed food, helped alot of starving people in Africa.
also, if animals were to run free they would DIE, if a dog has a problem, its not gonna walk to the docter, a human has to, I LOVE ANIMALS, but they are not equal to us.

 

[Illuminattile]

^how does one justify the other. Do two wrongs make a right. Stick to the topic.
Dairy products? Well can your evolution explain why cows for example produce more milk than neccessary? And why do hens lay surplus eggs?

Cows have been bred to produce more milk, hens have been bred to lay more eggs. Production of milk and eggs are both affected by diet, chemical suppliments, conditions etc..

Why try to turn this into a Creation/Evolution debate anyway?

Meat? Im glad our ancestors in the caves didn't think like this. Imagine mr cave man waiting around for the crops to grow in winter. Eating meat is our instincts and is for basic survival.

We, now, don't need to eat meat to survive. We CERTAINLY don't need to kill as many animals as we do, or as many different types of animals as we do, to survive.

Checking how a chimp is affected by botox injections is useless.

Not really. Making sure products are safe is an important issue. I don't necessarily agree with testing products on animals, but we have to test them somehow.

Police Dogs? You know as well as me that police dogs are treated very well. Besides these dogs are actually tamed to be comftable in human contact situations. Imagine puttting a poodle out inthe jungle with hyenas and dingos. It wouldn't last an hour!

But the bottom line is, why should we be allowed to keep animals to use for our benefit at all? Shouldn't they be free? And if we're allowed to keep animals i.e. we have control over them, why can't we use them for animal testing?

 

[Silleone]

Whats with this "animals should be free" crap, animals can not be free, no if,ands or buts,animals CAN NOT BE FREE, eg, what do u think would happen if u let a lion out in a nursery, and dont come at me with that "they should be free in certain places" shit becuz then u would be predjudice.

 

[k69atie]

Don't get me wrong i love animals, but there are not equal to humans, if we can save a 100 peoples lives from testing on a few animlas, then i am all for it!

 

[AnarchistFunk]

Whats with this "animals should be free" crap, animals can not be free, no if,ands or buts,animals CAN NOT BE FREE, eg, what do u think would happen if u let a lion out in a nursery, and dont come at me with that "they should be free in certain places" shit becuz then u would be predjudice.

you are retarded, a nursery?

animals should be free in their natural habitat, st louis missouri or someshit like that aint a lions natural habitat, the new york zoo aint its habitat, the fuckin jungle is, and id like you to show me some nurserys in the jungle

should we just all pass out and die, AF said we shouldnt be eating prosessed food, u do realise that processed food, helped alot of starving people in Africa.

dont speak on something you know nothing about, so africans were saved by processed foods after the white man came and destroyed the MOST FERTILE land in the whole fucking world, if it wasn't for idiotic thinkers like you, people in africa wouldnt need that processed food which most of the children cant digest anyways and die

A BUNCH OF FUCKING HIPPIE ASS TREE HUGGER(aka NAZIS)

you are the only racist, prejudice, one here

 

[Pacaveli-T]

^ how can we test a cure of cancer on charles manson if he doesnt have it


ok then in this case.

1. no more milk, why milk a cow thats wrong
2. no more meats, why kill an animal for food, thats wrong.
3. no more animals as pets, who are we to control an animals life

its very simple dude they can inject ppl with the infevtion just look at the doctor who injected himslef with the aids disease and cured himself. then cure......
that not wrong milking a cow u arent drugging it or giving it a disease. meats well i dont eat it that much 2 begin with so yea and animals its better we own it then it being road kill or aboandoned in the streets.