Animal Testing

[not really ken]

There are worse things going on in the world than aninmal testing

 

[k69atie]

its not stupid at all, i don't agree with it for the purpose of cosmetics, but there are more important things happening in the world to worry about.

 

[AnarchistFunk]

You guys are on some inferior shit, animals are just as equal and have as many rights and feelings as you

If you want to breed things to test medicine on, why dont you take zombied out americans and test it on them, or BREED HUMANS JUST FOR TESTING, stupid fucking shit

or hey what about this, stop eating bullshit foods, stop smoking cancer, stop polluting the air, stop raping mother earth, stop eating genetically modified foods, stop using bullshit body products, save the earth, and none of these things that you test would be needed

to quote one of my songs "get off my fucking planet, you rapists"

 

[feichen]

humans arent animals. animals arent toys.

 

[Illuminattile]

You guys are on some inferior shit, animals are just as equal and have as many rights and feelings as you

No they don't. Who's more likely to cure cancer or AIDS or bring about world peace; a human being or an animal? We're superior, we're more important, the earth is ours. We run shit here, they just live here.

 

[not really ken]

^ Was that sarcasm . I don't want to put my foot in my mouth by taking the wrong end of the stick in my reply to that.

 

[Illuminattile]

^ Was that sarcasm . I don't want to put my foot in my mouth by taking the wrong end of the stick in my reply to that.

Not really, no. We are superior to them. A human life is far more valuable than the life of any animal.

 

[Story]

Yeah ok, lets rear some animals and then be cruel to them. but its ok, cos their sole pupose is to be tested on . your right im not educated on the topic

your obviously not because your thinking with your ass instead of your head

people dont want testing on animals?

fine we will just test on humans, well test on YOUR family members who are sick, and if they die cause of our treatments, hell blame yourself.

we use animals to save human lives ultimately, ur probably one of those people who bitches science doesnt do enough, but then wants to regulate every single thing the science community does.


look at the big picture, if sacraficing one animal, that is sick to begin with, can save millions of lives, i like the way that number sounds.


pz

 

[AnarchistFunk]

No they don't. Who's more likely to cure cancer or AIDS or bring about world peace; a human being or an animal? We're superior, we're more important, the earth is ours. We run shit here, they just live here.

what do you run?

cure cancer? cure aids?, world peace? all problems created by humans

we are not superior, that thinking has lead to the pollution and desturction of the earth, and the destruction of the natural balance of things

 

[k69atie]

can i just ask how the hell was cancer created by humans??

 

[not really ken]

your obviously not because your thinking with your ass instead of your head

people dont want testing on animals?

fine we will just test on humans, well test on YOUR family members who are sick, and if they die cause of our treatments, hell blame yourself.

we use animals to save human lives ultimately, ur probably one of those people who bitches science doesnt do enough, but then wants to regulate every single thing the science community does.


look at the big picture, if sacraficing one animal, that is sick to begin with, can save millions of lives, i like the way that number sounds.


pz

Right ok, you saved the day. Thank you for reminding everyone that if there weren't animals we'd be using humans .
I like how many of you choose to live as cattle grazing amonst the latest consumer products.
I bitch that science doesn't do enough? Err, actually I think science has done enough damage, without doing anymore. Science has an ugly head as well as a positive one. Why can't you distinguish between the two. Lets eat bullshit processed foods and then test diet treatments on animals, lets put mobile phone masts in populated areas and then test cancer treatments on animals. Lets not eat foods high in natural oils needed by the body and hair and then test whether shampoo burns the eyes and scalp of animals.
Fuck it lets just put a nuclear powerplant in the middle of the amazon rain forset, if it wipes out a little eco-system so what? At least it will genrerate money for our asses. Maybe that way we can make our gravestones out of pure gold :thumb:

Illuminattile, what a selfish assertion. Yes we are intellectually more superior to them. But what makes this world more ours than there's. Is it the fact that they die and turn to dust adn we live forever? . Or is it the fact that we have the capacity to think that we want to live forever. Either way when you and I die, we turn to the same dust as them. In life we might be superior but when we die then we look just as 'inferior' as them

Oh yes, sweet justice only death can bring :thumb:

 

[Story]

may i ask where the fact of putting a nuclera power plant in a rain forest fits in here?

ok since you know all, how do you suggest we test these vaccines?

please enlighten us because a lot of what you posted in the above post is bullshit and heresay from someone who has not a clue of whats going on.

but swami, please, how do you suggesnt we test cancer cures, or aids vaccines, or alzheimers vaccines, what do you suggest o great one.

 

[not really ken]

the nuclear power plant idea fits in with the 'profits over any kind of moral intelligence' idea.

Cancer? ban cigarettes. Or are hypocriytical governments nothing to worry about. and most other cancers can be prevented

Aids vaccines?

. People who got aids deserve it. The spread of aids has been threw promiscuity and drug abuse. yes, i know there have been a few pawns in the middle . And if aids IS a lab experiment gone 'wrong'. Then I think people should drastically re-think there stance on thinking animals are inferior to us.

Alzheimers? Well the cause of Alzheimers is unknown. How about researching the cause of alzheimers and trying to prevent its onset.

 

[Story]

the nuclear power plant idea fits in with the 'profits over any kind of moral intelligence' idea.

Cancer? ban cigarettes. Or are hypocriytical governments nothing to worry about. and most other cancers can be prevented

Aids vaccines?

. People who got aids deserve it. The spread of aids has been threw promiscuity and drug abuse. yes, i know there have been a few pawns in the middle . And if aids IS a lab experiment gone 'wrong'. Then I think people should drastically re-think there stance on thinking animals are inferior to us.

Alzheimers? Well the cause of Alzheimers is unknown. How about researching the cause of alzheimers and trying to prevent its onset.

people who get aids deserve it? children born to hiv positive adults, they deserve it?
people who are involved in drug or needle mishaps in the hospital deserve it?
someone who is dating someone who has hiv, but they never notify their partner, they deserve it?


cancer can be prevented?
cancer is a genetic mutation, breast cancer cant be prevented, prostate cant, nor can hundreds of other types. your solutions to problems are idiotic and thats why you do what you do, and the cures of the worlds problems are in others hands.


you want to solve issues and you cant even spell.

pz

 

[not really ken]

people who get aids deserve it? children born to hiv positive adults, they deserve it?

i said there are unfortunate pawns

people who are involved in drug or needle mishaps in the hospital deserve it?

i said there are unfortunate pawns

someone who is dating someone who has hiv, but they never notify their partner, they deserve it?

Adults understand the risks of promisucity, or do adults nowadays bury there heads in the sand and expect to be bailed out for there mistakes

cancer can be prevented?
cancer is a genetic mutation, breast cancer cant be prevented, prostate cant, nor can hundreds of other types. your solutions to problems are idiotic and thats why you do what you do, and the cures of the worlds problems are in others hands.
you want to solve issues and you cant even spell.
pz

What are the causes of these cancers? And there are no guarentees that animals will react similarly to treatments under circumstances of stress.
My solutions aren't idiotic rather they are based on prevention. But no one is allowed to think outside the box are they.
I like how this went from 'animal testing' to 'animal testing for cures to diseases' all of a sudden.

you want to solve issues and you cant even spell.

Don't make me edit my post and make you look stupid. Just like you just did . yeah, i noticed your little edit. JUst checked my post. talk about petty

 

[Story]

i said there are unfortunate pawns

i said there are unfortunate pawns

Adults understand the risks of promisucity


cancer can be prevented?
cancer is a genetic mutation, breast cancer cant be prevented, prostate cant, nor can hundreds of other types. your solutions to problems are idiotic and thats why you do what you do, and the cures of the worlds problems are in others hands.
you want to solve issues and you cant even spell.
pz

What are the causes of these cancers? And there are no guarentees that animals will react similarly to treatments under circumstances of stress.
My solutions aren't idiotic rather they are based on prevention. But no one is allowed to think outside the box are they.

Don't make me edit my post and make you look stupid. Just like you just did . yeah, i noticed your little edit[/QUOTE]

my edit wasnt for spelling it was to add additional statments.

the point of animal testing is to see if its safe to advance to humans, most test on monkeys because they are most similar to us from a biological standpoint. you apparently dont understand reasoning for animal testin. but your "solutions" are stupid.

 

[not really ken]

my edit wasnt for spelling it was to add additional statments.

idiot went to idiotic and there's no use of apostrophes. Yeah, I know who gives a fuck!

the point of animal testing is to see if its safe to advance to humans, most test on monkeys because they are most similar to us from a biological standpoint. you apparently dont understand reasoning for animal testin. but your "solutions" are stupid.

Well to judge various activities, I think you need more criterias than 'reasoning'. Like ethics for example.
No, my solutions are to heavy on the desires of the 21st century 'metrosexual'. Many cancers like prostate cancer are caused singinficantly via diet and environmental factors. And is most common in Amercian men.

By the way, it's not 'testin', it is 'testing'. Since we're correcting everyones spelling today.

 

[AnarchistFunk]

"Ask the experimenters why they experiment on animals, and the answer is: 'Because the animals are like us.' Ask the experimenters why it is morally OK to experiment on animals, and the answer is: 'Because the animals are not like us.' Animal experimentation rests on a logical contradiction."
-Professor Charles R. Magel

 

[Illuminattile]

Illuminattile, what a selfish assertion. Yes we are intellectually more superior to them. But what makes this world more ours than there's. Is it the fact that they die and turn to dust adn we live forever? . Or is it the fact that we have the capacity to think that we want to live forever. Either way when you and I die, we turn to the same dust as them. In life we might be superior but when we die then we look just as 'inferior' as them

No, it's none of those reasons. It's because we're the dominant species. If you object to animal testing, do you object to using animals for anything? Pets? Police dogs? Meat? Dairy products?

 

[Pacaveli-T]

they shouldnt test on animals fuck its bad i dont like it but i think other things should be i rather a dumbass human be tested on how bout charles manson.