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[Casey]

LOL, I had to buy an extended battery for my G1. I have a 1600mAh, it only ships with a 1100. Even with the extended one the battery life is still pretty wack. You can get bigger batteries but they require a bigger back cover in order to fit them.

 

[Shadows]

 

[S O F I]

^posted already.


fuckin faggot

 

[dilla]

In Auburn, Alabama, while at school, I get full bars, everywhere, save for the basement of a four story library. In my room, on the roads, wherever. I am always getting fast 3G speeds as well as texting and calling clarity and speed.

I'm back home in Chicago now and I call and text waaaaay less, but I get barely one mini-bar in my room and the rest of my house. I get about 18 hours before I'm in the red. At school, I can go from 8 AM Friday to 5 PM Saturday before hearing the low battery beeps.

So signal has a huge thing too. It's just my house and the damn forest in our backyard that coon with our signal.

 

[dilla]

The Galaxy is due out soon, right? Damn. It'll be old by the time I get to upgrade in November. I guess I shouldn't be looking at phones now and expecting to upgrade in November.

 

[Casey]

Progress on CyanogenMod 6:

It’s been just under a week since Google released Froyo (Android 2.2) into the open-source world and we’ve made great progress on CyanogenMod-6 already. Approximately 20 of us on the CM team are working hard on merging all of the community-developed extras in, as well as porting to new devices. Google did a great job and really gave us the best foundation to start from this time around.

Here’s where we stand so far.. Most of the CyanogenMod extras have been merged. Some features are being reworked (like trackball settings), new device ports are well underway. The first devices to see CM6 experimental releases will most likely be the Nexus One and Droid simply because those are the devices that “just work”. The Dream/Sapphire port has everything working but one small issue remains. Wes Garner has the Slide port well underway. I don’t have a status report of the Desire, Incredible, and Evo versions at this time.

I’m expecting that we should have some experimental releases by the weekend, but please don’t spam us asking for ETAs.. We are just as excited to get this out as you are

You can follow our progress on Github or drop by irc.freenode.net in #cyanogenmod or #koush.

Regarding updates to CM5.. A small update will be coming this weekend to fix a few bugs but the focus will remain on CM6!

Thanks to everyone who has been supporting us with testing, bugfixing, code, new features, and of course donations. CM is what it is because of the community. Thank you!

 

[THEV1LL4N]

^^ sounds good. i wonder what the issue with the G1 is. hope its not something critical. and i hope i can finally set those contact pictures manually.

cant wait.

 

[Pittsey]

Anyone on here who has the Galaxy comment on how buggy it is?

 

[masta247]

In Auburn, Alabama, while at school, I get full bars, everywhere, save for the basement of a four story library. In my room, on the roads, wherever. I am always getting fast 3G speeds as well as texting and calling clarity and speed.

I'm back home in Chicago now and I call and text waaaaay less, but I get barely one mini-bar in my room and the rest of my house. I get about 18 hours before I'm in the red. At school, I can go from 8 AM Friday to 5 PM Saturday before hearing the low battery beeps.

So signal has a huge thing too. It's just my house and the damn forest in our backyard that coon with our signal.

If your signal is low then turn off 3g. It drains battery like crazy while trying to pick a signal. Actually 3g always drains battery but it kills it very fast if it can't find a really good signal. I have it off most of the time as it doesn't really improve things that much except for the internet on the move I don't use anyway.

 

[dilla]

Yeah, when I tried disabling 3G every time I was done with it, the battery gains were minimal. I think it's just it being a shitty phone.

 

[dilla]

Can someone explain what the difference between the Galaxy and the iPhone/iPad/ and the Droid X processor is? They seem to have the same specs, but Samsung has "Hummingbird" but the Droid and Droid X also have the OMAP processor from TI. Am I looking at CPU and GPU on the "Processor" column?

 

[dilla]

I always ask Casey this, but you guys should list sites you visit for your Android info.

I'm particularly interested in learning more about the different processors and future ones as well but I can't, for the life of me, find a single site for that. I've Googled everything I possibly could in terms of keywords, but nothing useful comes up.

 

[masta247]

Can someone explain what the difference between the Galaxy and the iPhone/iPad/ and the Droid X processor is? They seem to have the same specs, but Samsung has "Hummingbird" but the Droid and Droid X also have the OMAP processor from TI. Am I looking at CPU and GPU on the "Processor" column?

First of all I've heard that Apple was supposed to use some older Samsung chips that they overclocked to 1ghz but seems that they moved to a pretty good one.

Well, it's crucial to note that these days these "Chips" host both - CPU and GPU - processor and graphics processor.

Yes, so basically Samsung Galaxy S uses a full platform based on the same CPU that Apple buys from them.
So Apple has to redesign it (usually fuck up in their case), that's why they shamelessly call it "Apple A4". There are minor differences that paradoxally make that thing less efficient.
Then there's also GPU included. Samsung uses the best "kind" with their newest GPU (the SGX540) while they give away their older models to Apple (SGX535). Their naming seem similar but SGX540 seems to "count" graphics 3 times faster.
So Iphone 4 has the same CPU (but fucked up by Apple) and an older GPU.

I don't know about that chip in Droid X but if I had to guess it's a similar one that was in the first Motorola Droid but moving to a smaller technology process allowed them to overclock it to 1ghz. At the very least it's the same architecture and same developer.

PS. That comparison is retarded though since for example - they list Iphone's LCD screen to be better than Samsung's bigger Super Amoled. It seems that they consider resolution to be more important which is.. reterded.

 

[dilla]

I see.

Samsung's best processor vs. TI's OMAP, put into a phone, which is better overall? Performance, efficiency, etc.

Masta, did you provide your GTalk, btw?

 

[masta247]

I see.

Samsung's best processor vs. TI's OMAP, put into a phone, which is better overall? Performance, efficiency, etc.

Masta, did you provide your GTalk, btw?

I'm almost never on GTalk. I can pm you my login if you like though.

I think Samsung's processor will be superior. Last I've heard was that Hummingbird is the most efficient smartphone chip to date but I'm not sure if there's a comparison anywhere.

edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP#OMAP3

Yup, just like I thought. Droid X's OMAP 3630 is almost the same as the one that came with the original Droid which initially worked on 600mhz. Moving to 45nm allowed them to initially release it as 720mhz. Motorola overclocked it to 1ghz to use it in their Droid X as 1ghz always sounds better than 720mhz though the real difference might not be big. Also, that OMAP has Samsung's SGX530 GPU integrated. It's one serie lower than that GPU in Iphones (SGX535) though the difference is nowhere as big as between Iphones and the Samsung Galaxy S (SGX540) which has the fastest GPU hands down.
Hummingbird is also clocked higher than it initially was though. Most manufacturers overclock to 1ghz now as it looks better on paper.

It's a shame that they didn't wait for OMAP 4 with the Droid X.
They are initially 1ghz+ and integrate the SGX540 GPU and are about to be released soon but I doubt there'll be a phone based on them in the nearest future.
Also the upcoming dual core Snapdragon integrates an awesome GPU which should be a Samsung killer (at least it looks like that on paper). Same with new Nvidia Tegra.

 

[dilla]

^^ Haha, again, where do you get this info.? I trust you, I just don't want to have you explain it to me all the time. Though you do know your shit.

Or maybe you're a computer science major? Dunno.

Anyway, thought I'd share this article. A good one I'm reading and has me thinking about my next phone. Something in your post also made sense, and that was using an "older" processor on the Droid X. I want that 2 Ghz one and whoever comes out with that first will have my attention. Either Moto or Samsung. Oh yeah, the article: Nexus One won’t be the standard bearer for Android 3.0 | GAB

 

[Pittsey]

Does the Android have anything like - Mobile ME or Ilocalis? At a reasonable price. ie. <$20. yearly.

 

[masta247]

^^ Haha, again, where do you get this info.? I trust you, I just don't want to have you explain it to me all the time. Though you do know your shit.

Or maybe you're a computer science major? Dunno.

I read a bunch of techy stuff - mainly Polish sites. I rarely remember where I saw something but I can try to post some related English links in the future if I find any interesting ones. Yeah I'm a IT-related major.

This is about processors in Iphones 4 and Samsung Galaxy S:
iPhone 4, iPad and Samsung Wave apparently share the same CPU core » Unwired View)

and from an Apple fanboy site's perspective (which calls cutting out stuff to make it cheaper = "unneeded elements of the generic ARM reference design removed, reducing chip complexity, size and cost"):
http://9to5mac.com/one_of_these_chips_is_not_like_the_other

Does the Android have anything like - Mobile ME or Ilocalis? At a reasonable price. ie. <$20. yearly.

I don't know what these apps do but quick Google search tells me that you mean syncing everything with your PC. If so then Android syncs that for free. It's synchronized with your Google account that you can access on whatever other device/PC. Contacts, email, calendar etc - you can edit them from your phone or PC and they will be automatically synched.

If it comes to location, sharing it, remote control of your phone etc then I also saw apps doing that but I don't use any so I can't say for certain that there are free ones that do it.

 

[masta247]

Meet the Cisco Cius:

 

[Flipmo]

Hello Cisco Cius - nice to meet you. My name is David.