2pac deathrow music to be auctioned off.

[BIG NASTY]

y would daz and the realest dub hundreds of pac tracks? so that means the masters are edited?

he means that they made copies of the masters

 

[Whizz]

ever wonder why the clean hit em up version was used on nu-mixx? yeah, the explicit version is lost.

Never thought about that... Seems like Babylon is completely ruined.

 

[Nick]

I just read that Suge filled for bankrupcy, I guess other than paying whats owed this is the only thing he can do to hold on to what he's got?

 

[Souljah-]

Dante alot respect for you, for dropping some really intresting info
thanks alot

 

[My_Dyin_Day04]

Good info in this thread and would love to know how it all leaked

 

[Fataldawg]

Good info in this thread and would love to know how it all leaked

Yea ive always wondered the same too.. how it all leaked... i always assumed the trans express guys bought it off people working at deathrow, since they came out with the first bootlegs im pretty sure since it was like '97 that i got mine.. ahh.. my gold makaveli 2-4 cds... they looked cool cuz they were all gold with pacs pic in the center of it...

Whats the story, Dante? or any1 else that knows?

 

[Dante]

Yea ive always wondered the same too.. how it all leaked... i always assumed the trans express guys bought it off people working at deathrow, since they came out with the first bootlegs im pretty sure since it was like '97 that i got mine.. ahh.. my gold makaveli 2-4 cds... they looked cool cuz they were all gold with pacs pic in the center of it...

Whats the story, Dante? or any1 else that knows?

no. quite the opposite. express was a leech who bought a set of cd's and tagged them, selling them for how own profit. dj motion was the same. both used the songs they acquired from tape or cd trades in snail mail to make their own bootlegs and trade up for tracks. express's only exclusives were worldwide stampede and po nigga blues remix. motion's was hellrazor. everything else they put out was just what they got from other people.

in late 96, and even in 95 tape trading was crazy. there was a ton of new stuff to get your hands on. was a fun time.

 

[Fataldawg]

Express musta made a nice chunk of change from his dealings... over here in the nj/nyc area just about every pac unreleased had a express tag on em.. till like '99 when they dissappeared.. Those gold makavelis were everywhere.. i remember seeing em sold at the boardwalk in Atlantic City, Chinatown in NYC, and at the spot I bought mine at..

I wonder how suge reacted when he found out they got leaked... he musta went wild..

 

[RidinOutDaStorm]

I wonder how suge reacted when he found out they got leaked... he musta went wild..

I imagine he must have been pissed initially, but you have to remember some of the mystery surrounding 2pac, his death and his music is the fact that he has so many unreleased tracks. Because all of these bootlegs of virtually unheard tracks prior to the makaveli bootlegs, more people got interested in Pac. It was like a mystery how all of these tracks existed, thus all of the 96-97 "alive theories". This led to more albums being sold after his death of DK7 & AEOM.

 

[GhettoStar]

this some crazy shit in this thread(theories)

 

[Hymnz]

ever wonder why the clean hit em up version was used on nu-mixx? yeah, the explicit version is lost.

hmmmm...
even if it was, it could be gotten back. if they had the instrumental, the acapella could be gotten EASILY. johnny j has the beat. deathrow has the beat. i bet some people on the net have the lossless quality beat (not mp3).
DR has the acapella for the clean version. the instrumental could be gotten. the instrumental could be used to extract the dirty lyrics from the dirty version. there are so many ways to get the perfect, original acapella extracted.
maybe deathrow just thought that because people were buying this to play in clubs or something they didn't wanna hear all the cussing... and cussing... and the fuck you's at the end. holy shit.
enough with this theory. DR has engineers that know about sound. there is no way they have not got any means of getting the dirty version of the acapella.
maybe they did lose it, but they could get it back EASILY. and im sure they have it. so in my opinion, it was a CHOICE to use this version of the acapella.

 

[Diaz]

hmmmm...
even if it was, it could be gotten back. if they had the instrumental, the acapella could be gotten EASILY. johnny j has the beat. deathrow has the beat. i bet some people on the net have the lossless quality beat (not mp3).
DR has the acapella for the clean version. the instrumental could be gotten. the instrumental could be used to extract the dirty lyrics from the dirty version. there are so many ways to get the perfect, original acapella extracted.
maybe deathrow just thought that because people were buying this to play in clubs or something they didn't wanna hear all the cussing... and cussing... and the fuck you's at the end. holy shit.
enough with this theory. DR has engineers that know about sound. there is no way they have not got any means of getting the dirty version of the acapella.
maybe they did lose it, but they could get it back EASILY. and im sure they have it. so in my opinion, it was a CHOICE to use this version of the acapella.

Maybe they didn't think of it or they simply didn't care enough to do that. Notice the intro is the only part that cusses? That's because it's the only part on the song that doesn't have the beat playing, that was Deathrow's mega solution for not having the dirty acapella.

 

[Hymnz]

i can see deathrow is careless in managing stuff.
still - the acapella is not lost if it can be found by looking.
so in that respect the 'lost' theory is dead.
sorry if i sounded like a chump.

 

[Diaz]

the acapella is not lost if it can be found by looking.
so in that respect the 'lost' theory is dead.

The lost theory? How the hell is it a theory? I don't think Dante was just assuming when he said that... and even if you can extract the acapella with the instrumental, or just look harder for the lost reel, I don't think they would even care enough to do either.

 

[Dante]

hmmmm...
even if it was, it could be gotten back. if they had the instrumental, the acapella could be gotten EASILY. johnny j has the beat. deathrow has the beat. i bet some people on the net have the lossless quality beat (not mp3).
DR has the acapella for the clean version. the instrumental could be gotten. the instrumental could be used to extract the dirty lyrics from the dirty version. there are so many ways to get the perfect, original acapella extracted.
maybe deathrow just thought that because people were buying this to play in clubs or something they didn't wanna hear all the cussing... and cussing... and the fuck you's at the end. holy shit.
enough with this theory. DR has engineers that know about sound. there is no way they have not got any means of getting the dirty version of the acapella.
maybe they did lose it, but they could get it back EASILY. and im sure they have it. so in my opinion, it was a CHOICE to use this version of the acapella.

are you seriously implying they shoudl cpu gen the dirty acapella?
LOL

i'm not talking out of my ass here, chief. this comes from an engineer at death row. likewise, don't you think they looked for it already?

fyi, i'm not an idiot, and i don't post dumb shit.

 

[Hymnz]

they shouldnt make a "cg acapella" in the way we think of how one sounds.
but with the stuff that they have (or johnny j and other people), they can easily get the studio acapella extracted. no metallic sounding stuff if they did their job right. i know i could.

i never said you were an idiot. but this statement that it is completely and hopelessly lost is wrong.
either this engineer was just fucking around with you or he didn't try very hard. because i guarantee they could extract a perfect studio acapella.

and why is it such a wack idea?
badboy did it with the duets album. 'wake up now' ft/ korn. BIGs second verse. cg acapella of 'kick in the door'. it is a decent job but a bad transition from first to second verse sonically.

the acapella that deathrow could make just having the beat or clean acapella would be studio, if they knew what they were doing.

 

[Dante]

they shouldnt make a "cg acapella" in the way we think of how one sounds.
but with the stuff that they have (or johnny j and other people), they can easily get the studio acapella extracted. no metallic sounding stuff if they did their job right. i know i could.

i never said you were an idiot. but this statement that it is completely and hopelessly lost is wrong.
either this engineer was just fucking around with you or he didn't try very hard. because i guarantee they could extract a perfect studio acapella.

and why is it such a wack idea?
badboy did it with the duets album. 'wake up now' ft/ korn. BIGs second verse. cg acapella of 'kick in the door'. it is a decent job but a bad transition from first to second verse sonically.

the acapella that deathrow could make just having the beat or clean acapella would be studio, if they knew what they were doing.

if i had your brain i'd be a vegetable.

 

[Dogmatic187]

I'm sure that Amaru is all over this, I couldn't see P. Diddy or Jay-Z owning the 2Pac Death Row catalog. I'm also sure Dre & Snoop are over the Chronic and Doggystyle too.

 

[DontGo2Sleep]

This is pretty depressing to me personally, because in the same week, I am hearing about widely-publicized court dealings/sales for my 2 favorite artists/bands of all time--2Pac and Nirvana.

Although the whole thing of Courtney love giving up a portion of her stake in Nirvana is a bit different than this Suge possibly auctioning off thing, it's just a sad day to see how music that should either stay unheard by being completely destroyed or completely released is being used as a pawn in bargaining by greedy fucks.

 

[Hymnz]

i didn't think you'd need to resort to your 200gb library of these types of pics, dante.
just proves that i'm right.
unless you're going to post on sub-topic (since we weren't on topic) with proof, please dont rebuttle.

there is no way that the dirty acapella (studio quality...) can't be recovered with the material available.

and deathrow has lied to us many times, what's another lie from an engineer?

i dont wan't this to escalate any more, let's leave this alone. i don't want any e-beef.. lame...