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S O F I

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How long did it stay frozen? Sometimes it takes a while to reboot after an update. Have you tried pulling the battery and rebooting again?

More than an hour.

Yeah, tried that, doesn't work.


After googling the problem, it seems it was very common, fucking too common, with people after system updates and NO ONE has a solution except hard reboot (which still didn't work for some as the G1 would still freeze after the factory reset). The only solution was calling T-Mobile and getting a new one. It's frustrating cause I'm expecting an important call in these two days. Therefore, solution until Saturday = mama's old ass motorola t-mobile phone.
 

Prize Gotti

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More than an hour.

Yeah, tried that, doesn't work.


After googling the problem, it seems it was very common, fucking too common, with people after system updates and NO ONE has a solution except hard reboot (which still didn't work for some as the G1 would still freeze after the factory reset). The only solution was calling T-Mobile and getting a new one. It's frustrating cause I'm expecting an important call in these two days. Therefore, solution until Saturday = mama's old ass motorola t-mobile phone.
You know, if you are getting a replacement G1, they're gonna send you one with 1.1(I think) installed, and for my friend, it didnt update either, so he had to manually upgrade to 1.5, then 1.6.
 

THEV1LL4N

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yes. i think theyve stopped sending out the ota updates so you have to either stick with what you have or do them manually. this must be the case, because mine did not warn me of any system updates this week when i reflashed every rom one by one (following the exact same steps as i did gradually to the current day).

i think my problem is a compatibility issue with the latest cm roms.

i am running cm rom 4.2.7.1 on donut 1.6 and its working okay thus far. im going to see how it is for a few days and if its okay i'll do a nandroid backup of it. however, its not so up-to-date and i will try 4.2.8 and 4.2.9 and 4.2.10 to see if those work without any problems.
if not, then i'll either have to wait for 4.2.16 or just stick with what i have for good.
 

S O F I

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You know, if you are getting a replacement G1, they're gonna send you one with 1.1(I think) installed, and for my friend, it didnt update either, so he had to manually upgrade to 1.5, then 1.6.
naw, I got a replacement one with 1.5 then manually upgraded to 1.6.

This would be my second replacement. My first G1 lost sound so I couldn't hear people talk.
 

THEV1LL4N

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im thinking if its worth rooting the next generation of android phones for the reason that they will have more on board memory and faster processors to begin with.

yes, modded roms can bring out features before official releases and implement more features but will it be worth the hassle? i shall see what they come out with and for what phone.

i'd like for htc to make a true successor to the G1 with a slide out 5 row qwerty. like casey has iterated before, htc have a great community.
 

Casey

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/\ well, cyanogen has already built a custom ROM for the Nexus One which is supposed to be amazing.

No matter how good the phone is stock, there's ALWAYS benefits to rooting and running custom ROMS. Especially when someone like Cyanogen is working on them. Many people in the community are getting N1's purely because he's making his custom ROMs for them.
 

THEV1LL4N

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^^ yes, which is good news. but i can see him working on and focussing predominantly with the nexus androdi build. and i would really like a phone with touchscreen and physical qwerty keyboard next. ive only got about 9-10 months left, this contract is going by so quickly.

it would be ideal if t-mobile get the phone i want. i would like to stick with t-mobile now so i can build up a customer loyalty bonus. and i didnt really like the service i received from other providers much.
 

Casey

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Inside the Apple-Google War: It's Personal - Apple - Gizmodo

The New York Times has a long, juicy look at what's been going on behind the scenes with the ever-escalating conflict between Google and Apple. The cause for all the enmity, according to insiders? Ego.

The article draws from "interviews with two dozen industry watchers, Silicon Valley investors and current and former employees at both companies," all of whom offer a sense of just how personal this battle is and always has been. The writers summarize:

At the heart of their dispute is a sense of betrayal: Mr. Jobs believes that Google violated the alliance between the companies by producing cellphones that physically, technologically and spiritually resembled the iPhone. In short, he feels that his former friends at Google picked his pocket.
The article starts with the good old days, when the two companies were cooperative and when the individuals that ran them were close. Even before the mutually-beneficial industry chuminess between Steve Jobs and Eric Schmidt, Jobs had a personal relationship with those heading Google. In the company's early days, the article explains, Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin "considered Mr. Jobs a mentor":

[Sergey] Brin was also known to take long walks with Mr. Jobs near his house in Palo Alto, and in the nearby foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains. According to colleagues, they discussed the future of technology and planned some joint ventures that never came to fruition - like a collaborative effort to develop a version of Apple's Safari browser for Windows.
Google's development of Android, however, was the thin end of the wedge, and even in its early stages was a source of tension. The article recounts one Android-related meeting between Jobs and Google that sounds mighty uncomfortable:

At one particularly heated meeting in 2008 on Google's campus, Mr. Jobs angrily told Google executives that if they deployed a version of multitouch - the popular iPhone feature that allows users to control their devices with flicks of their fingers - he would sue. Two people briefed on the meeting described it as "fierce" and "heated."
Eventually, we on the outside caught wind of the conflict. As early as January 2008, Jobs was slighting Android, and a year after that we heard that Apple had stopped multitouch on Android altogether. We watched things get publicly uncomfortable when Apple rejected Google Voice from the app store. And soon we saw their acquisitions become undeniably competitive, Apple allegedly feeling that Google "stole" AdMob from them and preemptively gobbling up Lala in return. On the AdMob acquisition, the article's sources say, "Mr. Jobs speculated that AdMob might have violated its legal obligations, with help from Google." Apple's recent patent infringement suit against HTC was just confirmation that the bad blood was turning into a blood bath.

In January we heard that Apple was in talks with Microsoft to replace Google with Bing as the default search engine on iPhones and iPads, and the Times article ends by mentioning that "One Apple employee says that Qi Lu, the president of Microsoft's online services division, was recently seen visiting Apple's campus in Cupertino to discuss such a deal."

The Apple-Google war is waged by massive, relentless corporations, but it is fueled by the bruised egos of a few men. Given a better picture of how personal the conflict has been all along, it's hard to imagine the giants reconciling anytime soon
And some excellent comments made by readers of the article:

Put Eric and Steve in a bar fight.

My money is on Eric. Steve can't remember the last time he changed out of a turtleneck, how would he know how to throw a punch
So Jobs feels Eric is to him as Jobs was to Xerox?
Then Apple allied with China, and so began WWIII
- LOL
 

Casey

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Google = pulls out of China to take a stance against censorship

Apple = mistreats, abuses and puts so much pressure on it's chinese workers that one of them kills himself because of leaked Apple information.

Evil, you say....hmmmmm
 

S. Fourteen

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Google has no business taking stands against the way a country runs itself.

Android phones are made in China.

The pressure you speak of, I sense, is not coming from business practices but from cultural differences. I can't say for sure, but I believe Japan has the most number of work related suicides. So, when I hear that an Asian man killed himself over a fuck-up at work, it's not a surprise to me at all.

Apple and Google are the same, Casey. The only difference is that Apple makes better phones.
 

Casey

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Google has every business doing it. It provides search results and aims to provide the most relevant search content available. Censorship doesn't mix with that.

And Google make FAR better phones, which is why the Android adoption rate increased by over 6% in the last three months whilst Apple's only increased by 1%. It's why Google will have more market share than Apple within 18 months, and I'd put money on that.

It appears that the man who invented the cell phone would agree:

http://androinica.com/2010/03/12/the-inventor-of-the-cell-phone-is-a-fellow-android/
 

S. Fourteen

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Google has every business doing it. It provides search results and aims to provide the most relevant search content available. Censorship doesn't mix with that.
In other words, Google recognize China as a great source of income, and will not settle for anything less than full grip of the data traffic.

It's funny how a corporation can have more power than most developing nations and the likes of you will support the entity as long as you all get your free cookies.
 

Casey

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Please. If it was all about income they wouldn't pull out in the first place.

This is a moral stance, and it's the right one at that.

As for "free cookies", I just think it's funny how Apple overprice their products and they are still inferior to the services Google offers for free. Apple is having to run crying to Bill Gates (again) just to stand a chance.
 

S. Fourteen

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Yeah, we'll leave the China thing at that.

inferior to the services Google offers
like, very poor customer support infrastructure? or like, the run around of "call google, no call HTC, no call AT&T"

on that note - I will depart this little Google party of yours.
 

S. Fourteen

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sorry, just saw this edit lol

Fuck the man who invented the cell phone


He's 80, allegedly he criticized the iPhone as being "too complicated". Although he think the iPhone is a great tool for showing photos to people. hmm

one of his quotes

"Whenever you create a universal device that does all things for all people, it does not do any things well. Our future I think is a number of specialist devices that focus on one thing that will improve our lives."
he's out of touch in many ways and he used to work for Motorola.

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