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[THEV1LL4N]

i dont appreciate you calling me a clown. a comma, would help. haha.

 

[Casey]

1. Yea, Im sure iPhone users everywhere are switching to android because they cant use Google voice :*(

Yes, they are actually. One prominent person who has done exactly that, is TechCrunch founder Michael Arrington, one of the biggest names in the tech world.

I Quit The iPhone

I was there in January 2007 when it was announced and I bought the first iPhone as soon as it was available. I happily bought the iPhone 3G a year later. I’ve proudly yelled “I Am A Member Of The Cult Of iPhone.” I’ve been an unabashed cheerleader for the device to all who’ll listen. And I’ve scoffed at developers who said they’d abandon the platform.

But I’m not going to upgrade to the iPhone 3GS. Instead, I’m abandoning the iPhone and AT&T. I will grudgingly pay the $175 AT&T termination fee and then I will move on to another device.

What finally put me over the edge? It wasn’t the routinely dropped calls, something you can only truly understand once you have owned an iPhone (and which drove my friend Om Malik to bail). I’ve lived with that for two years. It’s not the lack of AT&T coverage at home. I’ve lived with that for two years, too. It certainly isn’t the lack of a physical keyboard, that has never bothered me. No, what finally put me over the edge is the Google Voice debacle.

He is far from being the only one.

2. Proof? other than hearsay

Steve Jobs Flips Out, Goes On Anti-Android/Adobe Tirade | Android Phone Fans

Steve Jobs is feeling the heat. In some cases an executive might play the calm, cool and collected gameface, allowing a sense of confidence to convince the masses that yeah, this dude is in control. But not Jobs. At an employee conference/event he was asked about Google and Adobe and went on a tirade that spewed venomous insults at each.

On Google: We did not enter the search business, Jobs said. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them, he says. Someone else asks something on a different topic, but there’s no getting Jobs off this rant. I want to go back to that other question first and say one more thing, he says. This don’t be evil mantra: “It’s bullshit.” Audience roars.

Cry me a river. Apple has only been in the phone business for a few years, it isn’t like they’re veterans of the game. He sounds like he has stuck some flag in the ground that provides Apple claim to the phone throne for all of eternity. And regardless, company’s are free to enter new markets. If you don’t think Google and Android have something to do with the recent explosion of phone capabilities/excitement than you’ve got to be on crack.

Google doesn’t want to kill the iPhone – they don’t need to do that. Plus it’s good to have Apple around because competition fuels innovation and Apple certainly has some great ideas. As far as the “Don’t Be Evil” thing? Attacking Google just makes Jobs seem like a nervous wreck that is backed into a corner by the recent iPad debacle.

3. They are protecting their IP nothing wrong with that. Apple wouldn't sue HTC without very high confidence in their legal position.

Congratulations on MISSING THE POINT COMPLETELY!

Apple are making a statement here and nothing else. The patents referred to in the case are to do with Android, so why sue HTC, a hardware manufacturer? Here's why.

1. Apple can't sue Google, because Google would destroy them legally, and Apple (at least right now) DEPEND on Google. They depend on Google Maps, and YouTube.

2. Motorola's DROID is the biggest selling Android phone to date. But Apple can't sue Motorola, because Moto have 25+ years in the telephone industry, and actually hold a SHITLOAD of patents themselves that the iPhone infringes on. Which makes Apple what? Spell it with me - H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S.

3. HTC, as a relatively young company, are an easy target.

4. Again little proof of this.

Neowin.net - Apple and Microsoft to team up for iPhone Bing deal?

Apple and Microsoft Teaming Up?

Will Microsoft and Apple Team Up to Fight Google? - PCWorld Business Center

and finally, a quote from one of my friends who loves his iPhone:

If Apple decides to make Bing it's default search engine, I'll be switching to an Android phone

Thats not the point, the point is Google would be fucking stupid to pull support for the iPhone, And Apple would be stupid to not include Google search. The point you cant seem to grasp is them working together because its in both their best interests business wise and for the consumer.

Right now, as it stands, Apple need Google a lot more than Google need Apple.

The point YOU can't seem to grasp is that while your last sentence is true, the scene has been set for a bloody war between the two and pretty much the entire future of computing is at stake. My prediction is that it will end up much like the PC Vs Mac - Apple will have a niche market (5-10%) and Google takes the lions share. In fact, I'd put everything I own in this happening by 2015.

Google wants to be the new Microsoft and hopefully a much better one. Apple have a completely different strategy and always have.

Ironically, with their closed business practices and trigger-happy legal team, Apple are a lot closer to being "the new Microsoft":

Is Apple the New Microsoft? - PCWorld
Don't look now, but the role of the industry's biggest bully is increasingly played by Apple, not Microsoft.

Is Apple the new Microsoft? | The Open Road - CNET News

Apple: The New Microsoft

Opinion: It's official, Apple is the new Microsoft

Androids not taking market share from iPhone, its taking it from Windows mobile and palm etc.

Again I ask why does Apple have to lose for Google to win?

Once again, untrue. In a recent poll, consumers were asked which smartphone platform they were likely to be in the next 12 months. Android came out on top and most of the people polled said that Apple would be their second choice. The evidence is right here - our very own Sandeep14 was almost convinced that he wanted an iPhone, but after doing research of his own, learned the truth - that Android is a superior platform for many reasons, and bought a G1. Again - not the only person that came to this decision.

Microsoft and Palm have lost market share, this is true. But since Android came into the picture prominently, Apple, even though they haven't yet lost market share, the adoption rate has slowed down, meaning that if Android were NOT in the picture, many of the market share that Android currently enjoys would have gone to Apple. Within 12 months, they will be losing market share, and fast.

Oh and this is not your thread you clown Sandeep started it and I wanted to contribute to a discussion with the four people that post in "your" thread.

Oh, do I resemble a clown? That's hilarious. You resemble a leaking rectal cavity who apparently can't count because a lot more than 4 people have contributed to this thread.

My bad though, because this isn't my thread. Sandeep, I'll let you do the honours and make your comment on the above statements, seeing as this is your thread.

 

[keco52]

maybe someone can answer this. I keep getting text messages from "anonymous" and when I open it the message says "message not found"

I blocked my ex and his gf from sending me text messages...is that what comes up if they try to text?

 

[Prize Gotti]

maybe someone can answer this. I keep getting text messages from "anonymous" and when I open it the message says "message not found"

I blocked my ex and his gf from sending me text messages...is that what comes up if they try to text?

I dont believe its a handset or android problem hun, called your provider cos something must be wrong with their text server.

 

[Prize Gotti]

Adobe Offers Android Developers Free Photoshop.com Mobile Editor, “Unlike iPhone”

Ive had this app for agggggggggggges.

Edit: Read the link, realised its now ingretable into other 3rd party apps, good stuff.

 

[Casey]

/\ Yeah, Photoshop integration into other apps is a great idea. You gotta give props to Adobe.

Apple shot themselves in the foot when they disassociated themselves from Adobe and dissed Flash. Sure, Flash may be on the way out thanks to HTML5, but you can't discount the MILLIONS of people out there that use Photoshop, and I don't see Apple (or anyone else for that matter) suddenly creating a better image editor, not when Photoshop has been around for almost 25 years and has dominated the field pretty much the whole time.

 

[Casey]

All that Apple dick has turned AT&T into drooling idiots.

Stuck In The iPhone Mindset, AT&T Locks Down Apps On Their First Android Phone)

Our full review of the Motorola Backflip should be up in a few days, but a few words of wisdom in the mean time: Don’t buy it. Between its crazy form-factor and the hidden trackpad tucked on the back of the display, everything we took as merits at face value have devolved into novelties.

Worst of all, it seems AT&T has taken a page from their time with the iPhone that no one wanted them to take. Like the iPhone — but unlike any other Android handset we’ve seen — the Motorola Backflip can’t install applications from any sources beyond the official, on-handset application store.

Why in the holy FUCK would you attempt to lock down an OS where the whole purpose and intention was for it to be open? Doesn't make any sense, but I have a feeling they were co-erced into trying to cripple Android but their buddies that work for a certain fruity company.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

that sky news app i was anticipating for soo long has been released since 16th feb and i really want to download it but cant. i think its time i get the stock rom and reflash everything as if brand new.

hope this works.

ive tried "fix_permissions" from console (on boot) and terminal emulator. if that made any difference. still have the problem.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

whats the latest version of cm updater for the G1 (not N1)? is it 4.5.2?

http://cyanogen-updater.googlecode.com/files/cmupdater_4.5.2.apk from cyanogen-updater - Project Hosting on Google Code

 

[THEV1LL4N]

edit: okay im downloading uk stock rom RC7 and will then update to 1.6 donut if i can.

then what i plan on doing is reflashing the htc rom in order to update to cyanogen's rom, and so i would need the relevant cm updater to do that. has there been another cm rom release?

yea, think so. v4.2.15.1 which i am downloading now.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

okay, i have installed the stock rom and am not getting the force close message. the phone has not prompted me to install 1.6 which is unusual because when i turned my phone on for the first time ever cupcake was just released ota that week.... now donut is out and its not prompting me that either.


edit: just to be certain, which one from this page do i download?

HTC - Developer Center

is it the System Image or the Recovery Image for android 1.6? isnt this the same as the htc image which i had to flash in order to continue using native android apps with newer cm roms?

do i just flash the htc 1.6 image and then cm image?


edit: update.zip (manual android 1.6 update) cannot be read from the sd card when trying to flash it using the boot menu that comes up when you press and hold 'home' when starting the phone up with 'power' button.

 

[Casey]

That's because you don't have root anymore. You lost it when you flashed the stock file.

But getting root on 1.5 is easy anyway....

 

[THEV1LL4N]

so do i have to flash 1.5 then 1.6 then cm rom?

 

[THEV1LL4N]

i have followed these steps:

Unroot your Phone / Place Phone Back to Stock

1 Download the DREAIMG.nbh: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/DREAIMG-RC29.zip
2 Place "DREAIMG.nbh" on the root of your SD card.
3 Turn your phone off.
4 Start up in bootloader mode by holding Camera + Power.
5 Hit power button to start the update.
6 Once the install completes hit action(trackball down) and your phone will reboot.

the above has been done successfully. and i am now trying to do the following:

install 1.6

would i need to do 1.5, then crc1, then 1.6? because i had an error message when trying to flash 1.6 ota update from sd.


edit: okay, im back on 1.5 CRB43, now the phone tells me that the system is up to date. i need to get to crc1 (security fix), then t-mobile 1.6, htc 1.6 and then root.


edit: CRC1 installed successfully

 

[Casey]

Update on the legal situation, supposedly HTC hold a couple of patents that Apple are infringing on.

But the funniest news all day that I've heard, shows why Apple can't go up against Motorola - Moto hold THE patent for the entire concept of a "portable phone" itself.

So basically, Apple need to be VERY careful right now. HTC, Google and Motorola are three of the key members of the OHA (Open Handset Alliance), and both HTC CEO Peter Chou and Motorola CEO Sanjay Jha appeared at Google's Nexus One press conference in January.......Apple want to throw a few legal shots at HTC over Android, then they better hope and pray that Moto don't step into the arena.

Anyway, as I've said on many occasions, this is a stupid, trigger-happy move by Apple and they won't win.

Nilay Patel from Engadget says:

“Hey, just caught your piece on HTC’s patent portfolio. It’s interesting, and I agree with your reasoning on why Apple chose HTC over, say, Motorola, which has 1000s of patents, but remember that Apple’s entire portfolio doesn’t really matter here–it only picked 20 to litigate, and it only has to win one claim. Similarly, HTC only has to find one of its 58 patents that the iPhone infringes, which isn’t necessarily impossible since HTC’s portfolio is probably entirely mobile-oriented. I’m sure HTC will countersue here–it’s basically standard practice in this type of suit. I’d also expect Google to be named sooner rather than later–there’s no way HTC’s contract with Google doesn’t have a rock-solid indemnification clause.”

 

[THEV1LL4N]

^^^ heheheheeee^^

apple do think they can boss other copanies around now that they have done well to establish and push the iphone.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

what i did reinstall the stock rom using the camera + power button feature.

then to be clever i installed cupcake 1.5 by renaming it as update.zip and also the 1.5 CRC1 securtiy fix update. i could do the same with the donut 1.6 from the htc site (now i think of it i have them all on my sd card. just need flashrec to root. but to ensure i dont mess anything up, i will do it the way i did originally.

i will do root via flashrecovery next (old cm rom), flash htc file through bootloader screen and then update cm rom. that way i can make a nandroid backup at the donut 1.6 update by htc before updating to the new cm rom.

 

[Casey]

Samsung SHW-M120S to be first Android phone with Bluetooth 3.0? -- Engadget

 

[masta247]

Damn, it looks close to perfect for me. Too bad it's South Korea only.

 

[Casey]

Damn, it looks close to perfect for me. Too bad it's South Korea only.

LOL what is it with you and Samsung?

The article says there's a chance there'll be an international version.