The problem is nobody uses those services. Hangouts was sort of a thing and I knew a user or two, but Allo, Duo and the rest - I don't think I've ever met anyone using them. To make a successful messenger, you actually need people who are willing to use those services. The casual masses are fine with Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger, with younger crowds also adding Snapchat to the mix, and everyone else is happy that they have everyone on 1-2 platforms without needing a 4th or 5th messenger.
Nobody really wanted those services from Google (apart from the Google yes-men), Google still made them, and then they stop supporting them because they find out nobody wants them. That's something of a trend at Google.
HTC hardware was behind literally every other remotely popular OEM at the time Google bought them. All of their greatest engineering talent that made the original HTC One S&X devices is already at Huawei, Oppo, Xiaomi and the Taiwanese computer hardware makers, with Google getting whoever was still left.
I know the US had a weird thing for HTC in some niche tech circles, with some reviewers actually having positive things to say about the One series over there, but hardly anyone bought them there, and outside of the US people thought they're generally inferior and they didn't sell at all. Their designs were a niche, "acquired" taste, with gigantic bezels, poorly calibrated LCD displays and rough around the edges metal or shiny plastic build. I could never perceive them as pretty, and while just me saying HTC One wasn't as pretty as some people seem to think is not enough, those phones simply didn't sell well. Plus they certainly weren't objectively good at fitting their hardware efficiently into a competitively sized smartphone body.
For the past 5 years, HTC wasn't even a top 20 smartphone maker by units sold OR revenue. And that is completely justified - their internal hardware design of the last 5 years was some of the worst on the market, and so was their software, to the point they struggled and never succeeded at camera image processing, which was dramatically helped by the Google acquisition, but the fact that they simply aren't competitive at hardware remained. Therefore, Google is left with mediocre hardware teams, with some really talented software teams trying to work with what they're given, which just isn't much, unfortunately.
HTC used to be quite decent, but that ended in around 2012, with the One S being their last phone that was actually objectively good and turned a profit. That was almost 7 years ago. There is no way to make a really outstanding phone with what's left there without reinvesting a lot of time and money and building things from scratch. That money wouldn't be coming from the Pixel sales, as they aren't selling many units, so Google would have to pour a lot of their own money in, so in 2 or 3 years we could see an actual contender for a market leader from them. How much sense does it make though, considering that they'd be competing with companies who are constantly pouring (or reinvesting) big money into improving their existing devices and existing top-notch hardware and software? I hope Google has a better plan than it seems.
Nobody really wanted those services from Google (apart from the Google yes-men), Google still made them, and then they stop supporting them because they find out nobody wants them. That's something of a trend at Google.
HTC hardware was behind literally every other remotely popular OEM at the time Google bought them. All of their greatest engineering talent that made the original HTC One S&X devices is already at Huawei, Oppo, Xiaomi and the Taiwanese computer hardware makers, with Google getting whoever was still left.
I know the US had a weird thing for HTC in some niche tech circles, with some reviewers actually having positive things to say about the One series over there, but hardly anyone bought them there, and outside of the US people thought they're generally inferior and they didn't sell at all. Their designs were a niche, "acquired" taste, with gigantic bezels, poorly calibrated LCD displays and rough around the edges metal or shiny plastic build. I could never perceive them as pretty, and while just me saying HTC One wasn't as pretty as some people seem to think is not enough, those phones simply didn't sell well. Plus they certainly weren't objectively good at fitting their hardware efficiently into a competitively sized smartphone body.
For the past 5 years, HTC wasn't even a top 20 smartphone maker by units sold OR revenue. And that is completely justified - their internal hardware design of the last 5 years was some of the worst on the market, and so was their software, to the point they struggled and never succeeded at camera image processing, which was dramatically helped by the Google acquisition, but the fact that they simply aren't competitive at hardware remained. Therefore, Google is left with mediocre hardware teams, with some really talented software teams trying to work with what they're given, which just isn't much, unfortunately.
HTC used to be quite decent, but that ended in around 2012, with the One S being their last phone that was actually objectively good and turned a profit. That was almost 7 years ago. There is no way to make a really outstanding phone with what's left there without reinvesting a lot of time and money and building things from scratch. That money wouldn't be coming from the Pixel sales, as they aren't selling many units, so Google would have to pour a lot of their own money in, so in 2 or 3 years we could see an actual contender for a market leader from them. How much sense does it make though, considering that they'd be competing with companies who are constantly pouring (or reinvesting) big money into improving their existing devices and existing top-notch hardware and software? I hope Google has a better plan than it seems.
19 other OEMs were ahead of HTC? Were a lot f those no-name, Asian companies that don’t sell internationally?