Sarkozy to submit bill banning Islamic face veils

[Jurhum]

lmao, didn't I say it?

Jurhum crawls into a total victim role. See, it's OUR fault we don't like a horde of angry muslims clamouring for death over a cartoon.


Get


the


fuck



out.


I'm done with this. Well done, Jurhum. You've made me hate your religion and it's followers just that little bit more. Chapeau.

First of all, I am not playing victim here. I am telling it like it is. Hating Islam is your job, so nothing new.

 

[Jurhum]

Sometimes...more than a thousand words. And this one is spot on:

Wow, you have to be the stupidest person alive to not see the difference.

 

[Duke]

For me, anyone who thinks insulting the Prophet is a freedom of expression will never be acceptable. Simple as that. If you insult the prophet of the second largest religion in the world then be prepared to accept the consequences because there are men that will defend their religion if it meant their lives.

And this is why the West doesn't like you.

 

[Duke]

Wow, you have to be the stupidest person alive to not see the difference.

The real difference is that you are unable to see past your own blinders.

For you, Muhammad is a holy figure. For a whole lot of people, he's not. Those people don't have to follow YOUR rules. Yet you expect them too.

 

[Bobby Sands]

where did they insult the prophet then?

 

[Jurhum]

And this is why the West doesn't like you.

I am not expecting the west to like me or us. I couldn't care less. All I am saying is do not insult us. We wont react. That's very simple. Nothing hard to comprehend.

 

[Jurhum]

The real difference is that you are unable to see past your own blinders.

For you, Muhammad is a holy figure. For a whole lot of people, he's not. Those people don't have to follow YOUR rules. Yet you expect them too.

read the other post I just posted

 

[Jurhum]

where did they insult the prophet then?

Putting the prophet in a bear suit similar to the pedo-bear is not insulting?

 

[Duke]

Putting the prophet in a bear suit similar to the pedo-bear is not insulting?

It was just a bear suit...had nothing to do with pedo bear.


great job on the assumption, though. :thumb: Really puts you in a good light there.

 

[Sebastian]

For me, anyone who thinks insulting the Prophet is a freedom of expression will never be acceptable. Simple as that. If you insult the prophet of the second largest religion in the world then be prepared to accept the consequences because there are men that will defend their religion if it meant their lives.

Not every culture or group of people have a point of view worth considering. You, for example, as a part of a certain group and culture, have disqualified yourself from every serious debate about these questions by being a hardliner.

 

[Casey]

First of all, there's no such thing as a prophet and there's no such thing as god. Evidence substantiates this.

Therefore, Muhammad was a normal person just like anyone else. So was Jesus. So was Buddha. There is and never will be any proof to prove that these people were not normal people like everyone else.

What I just wrote is not offensive. It's not inflammatory. Yet I am sure that it would make some Muslims very, very, angry if I were to say this to them. That's stupid of them to get angry about that. It's like a child getting mad because I tell them the tooth fairy isn't real.

However, a child would actually get over it.

 

[Flipmo]

Does anyone have to prophet-bear / Pedo-Bear lookalike thing... I've never seen it.


Edit: Never mind, I just saw it. Looks nothing at all like the Pedobear.

 

[Jurhum]

Not every culture or group of people have a point of view worth considering. You, for example, as a part of a certain group and culture, have disqualified yourself from every serious debate about these questions by being a hardliner.

The same goes for people like yourself.

 

[Jokerman]

because I tell them the tooth fairy isn't real.

You will die a thousand deaths for this insult.

if I said, "Fuck Mohammad", what? There's instantly a bounty on my head and whoever kills me first gets a million virgins in a non-existent afterlife?

It's up to a million now? Damn, i've got to play that lottery.

 

[Jokerman]

Despite Sarkozy saying they’re doing this because the practice oppresses women, the government’s real reason for this law is because of Muslim fundamentalism and the fear of increased terrorism. It’s clear that this law obscures and neglects to address the political, economic and social problems that plague the Arab Muslim population in France and the French government's role in creating the current dire conditions that exist in North African, Islamic communities.

 

[masta247]

 

[Duke]

lmao @ the comic masta posted.


More on topic was Joker's reply. It's very true. France has a very large immigrant population and probably the no.1 EU country with the most integration problems.

Thing is, "we" as westerners didn't do jack about integration when those people first came here. Integration has to come from both sides, i'll be the first to admit that. We fucked it up then, we pay the price now. That's not to say just the west is to blame for the current integration issues, but we could've made an effort sooner.

This is actually in no way related to the discussion i had earlier in this thread about overly sensitive muslims.

 

[Rukas]

You guys have no idea how fucking bad it is in Australia.

Quick little story. I was at a Bank (Swanston Street, Melbourne, if anyone cares, so right in the heart of the Melbourne CBD) getting a replacement ATM card because mine was acting up. A bicycle delivery guy came up and was stopped at the front door and told he couldn't enter with his bike helmet and glasses on. Fair enough yeah? So he took it off, went in, dropped a package at the info desk, and walked straight out.

The very next two people to walk in are two Muslim women, covered from head to toe in the black ninja outfit. And guess what, they walk right in, no hassle, no drama.

So the moral of the story is, if you want to rob a bank, wear an Islamic veil.

I actually asked the security guard what was up with that and he said "look, if I stop them, they will scream bloody racism and I will lose my job."

So apparently this is not allowed:

But this is:

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Here is my opinion. If you leave your country because you are oppressed there and come here as refugees, why the fuck would you continue oppressing yourself? Go back to the Middle East.

And for the record, Ive been to Saudi Arabia before. I know for a fact, if a western women wore western clothes in the street she would be spat on and stoned. So if we go there, we have to abide by their laws; and if they come here, we have to abide by their laws?

 

[Duke]

You guys have no idea how fucking bad it is in Australia.

Quick little story. I was at a Bank (Swanston Street, Melbourne, if anyone cares, so right in the heart of the Melbourne CBD) getting a replacement ATM card because mine was acting up. A bicycle delivery guy came up and was stopped at the front door and told he couldn't enter with his bike helmet and glasses on. Fair enough yeah? So he took it off, went in, dropped a package at the info desk, and walked straight out.

The very next two people to walk in are two Muslim women, covered from head to toe in the black ninja outfit. And guess what, they walk right in, no hassle, no drama.

So the moral of the story is, if you want to rob a bank, wear an Islamic veil.

I actually asked the security guard what was up with that and he said "look, if I stop them, they will scream bloody racism and I will lose my job."

So apparently this is not allowed:

But this is:

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Here is my opinion. If you leave your country because you are oppressed there and come here as refugees, why the fuck would you continue oppressing yourself? Go back to the Middle East.

And for the record, Ive been to Saudi Arabia before. I know for a fact, if a western women wore western clothes in the street she would be spat on and stoned. So if we go there, we have to abide by their laws; and if they come here, we have to abide by their laws?

This is exactly the sentiment that crawls up. Even amongst the, as I consider, rather intelligent individuals capable of forming a nuanced statement. I count myself amongst those.

And where the muslims get it wrong is when they percieve it as an attack on their religion. Most of us westerners attack it because of the self-victimisation of the muslims, the double standard that they want to enforce, the laughable failure to see anything in context.


THAT'S what pisses us off. We really couldn't care less whether you followed prophet Muhammad or the Great Penguin God. Honestly.

 

[Rukas]

^^ Exactly. I dont care where you were born, I dont care what you believe, I dont care about your skin color, Im not racist, all I care about is how people act and treat other people.

The double standard stems from an arrogance of "we are right, they are wrong, we are superior to them, they should do what we do, or we will kill them." I firmly believe Islam as a whole, given the real chance, would wipe out all non-Muslims if they could. Not all Muslims, but as a whole, that would be the outcome.

I guarantee, if the world goes into a WW3 situation like it is heading where it will be Islamic nations vs. Israel and the West, you will have Muslims attacking westerners around the world in the street. We already get them calling women "dogs" and stabbing people here weekly, it's on a tipping point, and things could become very ugly.