Technology iPhone OS 4 event April 8th

Casey

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I would imagine all of Gizmodo, even the Apple fanboys are quite disgusted by the raid on Jason Chen's house.
 

S. Fourteen

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^ go ahead - start painting a picture that depicts Apple as the evil empire with the district attorney in their pockets. that would be amusing to watch.

in related - Adobe called the Feds and told them Apple was being a meanie.
 

Casey

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It's easy to give away overstock Nexus Ones 'cause they aren't selling LOL
It's tough being wrong, huh?

Pre-orders sell out for Vodafone's Nexus One (Phone Arena News)

Also - they aren't just giving out Nexus's (Nexii?), but Droid's too, which as you well know are one of the biggest selling phones in recent times.

Also, the HTC Desire, HTC Incredible and Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 are selling like hot cakes.

but it's OK - I understand the concept of a mobile OS being available on more than just one device is foreign to you.
 

S. Fourteen

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^ I think some people think that I want people to switch to iPhones. That's far from what I want.
My cause is letting you know that Apple doesn't need to give away free phones to attract people. Apple can outsell Motorola with basically one phone (although separated by 3 revisions) while Motorola sells a hundred different phones and comes just short.

Motorola posts profit, strong sales; stock jumps - Forbes.com

HTC Desire? Incredible? Incredibly disposable when the next desirable one comes out? It's the never ending quest for the next iPhone killer and it's an amusing sight to watch.

PS. Casey, that's Apple's old trick of under-stocking for good exposure. They're luring people (YouTube partners, developers) with free milk, cookies and Nexus Ones.
 

S. Fourteen

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Motorola rumored to have acquired Azingo, part of some grander OS plans? -- Engadget

This one isn't official just yet, but if some changes in employment status on LinkedIn is any indication, it looks like Motorola may have recently acquired mobile Linux OS company Azingo. It may not exactly be a major player in the mobile OS field, but its Linux-based Azingo Mobile OS does look to be capable enough (complete with a Webkit-based browser and Flash runtime), and the acquisition is especially interesting in light of some recent comments made by Motorola co-CEO Sanjay Jha. Back during Moto's Q1 earnings call, he said that he has "always felt that owning your OS is important, provided you have an ecosystem, you have all the services and you have an ability and the scale to execute on keeping that OS at the leading edge," adding that he continues to believe "that at some point, if we have all of those attributes, that owning our own OS will be a very important thing." Is Azingo Mobile that OS? Probably not, but it'll certainly be interesting to see where this leads -- as long as it doesn't lead to something called MOTOZINGO.
amusing
 

masta247

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I hate the term "Iphone-killer". It was made up by Apple fanboys to make it seem like most smartphones are not better than Iphones.
 

Casey

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Apple can outsell Motorola, sure.

But can they outsell Motorola + HTC + Sony Ericsson + Huawei + LG + Samsung + Dell + Acer + Lenovo etc etc etc, all of whom have and/or will have Android devices coming out soon? Nope.

Like Andy Rubin said "it's a numbers game".

Do you know why Apple only have less than 10% of the worldwide PC market? It's because Microsoft came along with a superior OS that they licensed to any hardware OEM that wanted it.

Same thing with Android, only it's free for the OEMs.

Listen - Sanjay Jha is experimenting with OS's. That smalltime OS they've bought, Azingo or whatever it's called, is likely a small scale thing for non-smartphones. Sanjay knows that Android is the ONLY reason Motorola is not completely fucked and in the red right know, and Moto's future for the next 5 years at least is mostly based around Android, which is why he was present and onstage at the Nexus One launch sitting right next to someone that for all intent and purposes is a competitor (HTC CEO Peter Chou).

Anyway....watch what Motorola do with the Shadow/Nexus Two/Droid 2 (whatever they end up calling it/marketing it as). They know what works with their ad campaigns, shit, that "iDon't/Droid Does" thing was relentless....and they're gonna bring out the big guns now.

I predict an ad campaign showing of Google Nav with Street View - something which has dropped the jaws of EVERYONE I've shown it to, and sold some of them on Android based on that alone. That includes iPhone fanboys I've showed it to. Android 2.2 has integrated Flash also, so I guess that's yet another thing to add to the "iDon't....Droid Does" campaign. ;)
 

masta247

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yup Motorola sucked major balls for the past few years. In Europe their position as a big player was lost, especially since Nokia and Sony-Ericsson dominate our market (now also Samsung and LG).
I know Motorolas were always more popular in the US but still their last notable phone was the RAZR.. Since then they were only releasing trash-phones and now there are their Android phones which are good.
Thanks to Google because Motorola's software sucked balls big time.

Samsung's "Bada OS" sounds much bigger than any OS from Motorola though and still nobody cares about it.
 

Casey

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/\ exactly. And Nokia has more phones out there than any other company and nobody gives a fuck about their Maemo platform which is also based on Linux.

Fact is you need killer apps that everyone already uses because people want tight integration on their mobiles with services they already use. For Apple it's just iTunes.

For Android it's YouTube, Gmail, Maps, GTalk, etc.
 

Casey

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Has Apple Lost Its Cool? - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com

On Tuesday I talked with John Berman, an ABC News correspondent, about Apple’s current image in the media, and with its fans and customers.

Mr. Berman’s first question to me was: “Is Apple losing its cool?”

It’s a valid question. The company has been under fire lately for any number of reasons.

There’s the disagreement with software developers who want to use third-party software to create applications for the iPad and iPhone, specifically built using Adobe’s Flash authoring tool. In turn, Apple is still in a three-year standoff with Adobe over disallowing Flash content on Apple’s mobile devices.

Then there are frustrations with Apple’s app store, where applications are approved for sale in iTunes for what seem like random reasons. There’s also the company’s dispute with HTC over patents related to the Google phone, which is made by HTC. And then, the company’s chief executive, Steven P. Jobs, has been criticized for his terse responses to customers who ask questions about Apple products.

Last, but definitely not least, there is the brouhaha that has surrounded the company since a prototype of the new version of the company’s iPhone was found in a bar.

Many consumers — in opinions expressed on blogs and Web sites — see Apple as a haughty and bullying company. In part, this may be because Apple is no longer an underdog in the industry. The company’s market cap fluctuates between $230 and $240 billion, not far behind its big brother Microsoft, which sits around $260 billion.

But all the litigation and negative press hasn’t hurt Apple’s sales. People are lining up to buy iPads and iPhones and swooning over announcements of new products.

Still, as more options for competing products appear in the marketplace, if the company doesn’t get its image back on track, that tide could change.
IMO, you can't lose something you never had. ;)
 
Nintendo president to execs: Prepare for war with Apple, our enemy of the future
FOXNews.com - Nintendo Readying for War Against Apple

"Nintendo is preparing to unleash the full force of its development and marketing artillery against Apple after profits tumbled at the Japanese giant for the first time in six years, The London Times reported Friday," NewsCore reports.

"Satoru Iwata, the Nintendo president, is understood to have told his senior executives recently to regard the battle with Sony as a victory already won and to treat Apple, and its iPhone and iPad devices, as the 'enemy of the future,'" NewsCore reports.

The company’s recent strategy centered on creating devices aimed not just at children and dedicated -- generally male -- gamers, but at the whole family. Two years ago, the company claimed it permanently altered the demographics of video games by raising the average age and the gender mix of gamers," NewsCore reports. "Unfortunately, the very people it claimed as converts -- high school girls and men aged between 30 and 40 -- reported that they would rather have an iPhone than a DS in their pockets or handbags."
 

masta247

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Well, Iphone OS 4 got shat on even on GSMArena which is Pro-Applish:

With the iPhone it’s never about what the phone can or cannot do. The iOS 4 however seems finally determined to catch up with most of the today’s smartphones. You’re not to expect miracles though – such as a file browser, USB mass storage mode, web Flash support, and other stuff that seems irrelevant to Apple.

Anyway, we’ve tested iOS 4 on both an iPhone 3GS and a 3G. It’s worth noting that a lot of the new features aren’t available on the now discontinued iPhone 3G. Worse yet, the iOS 4 is heartbreakingly slow on the 3G. We somehow feel though that the average iPhone user is way more likely to go straight to Number Four than bother install the latest OS on an older device. Or at least that’s what Apple would prefer.
What’s still missing:
No Flash support in the web browser
No true multitasking for all applications
iOS4 for iPhone 3G has limited new feature set
Poor performance on iPhone 3G
No quick toggles for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth or 3G
No social networking integration
No info widgets on lockscreen or homescreen
SMS tones are still not customizable
No mass mark emails as read
No proper file browser or access to the file system
No USB mass storage mode
No vibration feedback when touching the screen
No Bluetooth file transfers to other mobile phones
Contacts lack a swipe-to-delete or mass delete feature
No SMS/MMS delivery notifications
No smart dialing (but Spotlight is a somewhat of a substitute)
No DivX or XviD video support and no official third-party application to play that
The whole iPhone is too dependent on iTunes - you cannot add the same type of content (video, photos, apps) to the phone from two computers, a regular file management interface would have been much better
What's new: everything that's old on other Mobile operating systems.

Apple iOS 4 review: Getting there - GSMArena.com

And lmao at some comments like:

iOS4's does exactly the same thing 3G does, FREEZE APPs, NOT MULTITASK.

The only difference is that now, it shows you what apps are frozen in the background.
It's so nice not to be able to change your sms-signal, it removes so much pressure from the individual user, personalizing your phone can be hard.
It's like being offered DOS 6.22 when Windows 7 has been out for half a year.
Sad thing is that they're spot on.
 

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