World-Class English Football Players

Sebastian

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is it possible to "discuss" without "fuck", "dumbass" and all that?....thx

ThUg $TyLe said:
Beckhams penatly miss was because of the pitch btw, well the 2 he missed (one vs turkey) was because of the ground.
Isnt that bad luck? or is that losing mentality when the ground gives way? lol!
beckham was one example, maybe not the best (even though i think he aint got that winner-mentality)

but there are other players who missed shots too so my theory still stands
 
beReal said:
is it possible to "discuss" without "fuck", "dumbass" and all that?....thx
If people would "discuss" their opinion logically then these other words wouldn't be needed. Remember, this is the guy who cannot accept it when several board members tell him a fact. It's a fact that Lampard has been getting praise from around Europe.... but the guy denies this. Duff was one of the biggest stars of the last World Cup & has the international community talking about him....but the guy denies this too.

beReal, perhaps you can put forth an alternative to calling a dumb person dumb?

And this guy also decided to bring non-relevant issues into it (like my supposed "mate" PaulyPac's musical taste).
 
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Pavel Nedved is not a winger. He can be used as a winger, but he is overall an offensive midfielder. He can play through the centre as an attacking midfielder & out right or left as a winger on either side. You'll notice at times he is also deployed as a central midfielder or right or left midfielder. So how can you say he's a winger? Duff, on the other hand, is almost always used as a winger. Sometimes he plays left mid. & recently he played left-back to make up for shortages in the Chelsea squad but the vast majority of times he plays as a winger.
You fucking cunt Nedved is a winger! offensive or defensive theres only one guy other then left defender who playes at a left wing and thats him. aint no sometimes fool. he plays left winger and during the game he moves around like every other football player occasionally moves around from his position and if thats what you refering to 'sometimes he plays center' then you flat out stupid and have no clue what you yapping about.

you so far from the truth that you cant even realize how dumb you sounding right now.

its not like im saying Duff is a bad player, im just saying hes a good player but not as good as Nedved and he definetly not world class Duff that is. you cant just accept that cause he is your mate and you dont like somebody saying hes not world class player about your mate.
get off man, get off!

CalcuoCuchicheo said:
If people would "discuss" their opinion logically then these other words wouldn't be needed. Remember, this is the guy who cannot accept it when several board members tell him a fact. It's a fact that Lampard has been getting praise from around Europe.... but the guy denies this. Duff was one of the biggest stars of the last World Cup & has the international community talking about him....but the guy denies this too.)
No its not a fact that Lampard is world class. how is that fact? cause several members said so? so, that dont make a fact. you even said it yourself he gets praised from around Europe. but Europe is not world. so therefore he no world clas according to your own statement.


CalcuoCuchicheo said:
And this guy also decided to bring non-relevant issues into it (like my supposed "mate" PaulyPac's musical taste).
It was also a non relevant issue when you squizzed your mate Duff into world class category and thought nobody would see it and you would get away with it. this thread was made for 'English' football players not 'Irish'. so you bringing his name up was non relevant issue and only caused you a lot of mental stress.

beReal said:
my advice: stop talking to someone if u think he isnt worth discussing it because he isnt able to understand the point
he aint got no point. he wont let it go and accept that Duff is not world class. he cant help himself.
 
~Bachaveli Don~ said:
You fucking cunt Nedved is a winger! offensive or defensive theres only one guy other then left defender who playes at a left wing and thats him. aint no sometimes fool. he plays left winger and during the game he moves around like every other football player occasionally moves around from his position and if thats what you refering to 'sometimes he plays center' then you flat out stupid and have no clue what you yapping about.
There is a difference between a winger & a side midfielder: learn it.

~Bachaveli Don~ said:
its not like im saying Duff is a bad player, im just saying hes a good player but not as good as Nedved and he definetly not world class Duff that is. you cant just accept that cause he is your mate and you dont like somebody saying hes not world class player about your mate.
get off man, get off!
Nedved is a better player than Duff: I never said anything to the contrary. IMO, he is world class (I've already explained why).

My mate? In no way, shape or form have I a friendship with Damien Duff. I've never met the man in my life.



~Bachaveli Don~ said:
No its not a fact that Lampard is world class. how is that fact? cause several members said so? so, that dont make a fact. you even said it yourself he gets praised from around Europe. but Europe is not world. so therefore he no world clas according to your own statement.
Never said it was.....


~Bachaveli Don~ said:
It was also a non relevant issue when you squizzed your mate Duff into world class category and thought nobody would see it and you would get away with it. this thread was made for 'English' football players not 'Irish'. so you bringing his name up was non relevant issue and only caused you a lot of mental stress.
Squizzed? Ok.......and I never brought the Irish up, someone else did & I gave my opinion.
 
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
There is a difference between a winger & a side midfielder: learn it.
lmao.
Nedved is a winger. i dont care what you think he is. when you think of Nedved and think of putting him in a team and giving him a position you think of him as left winger.
Nedved is a winger and way better player then Duff.
im not about to waste my time on you about this nomore.




CalcuoCuchicheo said:
My mate? In no way, shape or form have I a friendship with Damien Duff. I've never met the man in my life..
he Irish. you half Irish. case closed. no need to get all emotional about this.




CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Never said it was.....
well i just said i dont consider Lampard as world class. i dont think i said hes not getting praised from around the Europe. even if he did, it wont make him world class would it?





CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Squizzed? Ok.......and I never brought the Irish up, someone else did & I gave my opinion.
well, abviously your opinion is sounding more like dick riding.
 
~Bachaveli Don~ said:
lmao.
Nedved is a winger. i dont care what you think he is. when you think of Nedved and think of putting him in a team and giving him a position you think of him as left winger.
Nedved is a winger and way better player then Duff.
im not about to waste my time on you about this nomore.
Again, Nedved is too versatile to be pigeonholed like that.

Why do you insist on making irrelevant points like the emboldened?

~Bachaveli Don~ said:
he Irish. you half Irish. case closed. no need to get all emotional about this.
Half Irish? I don't know where you got this, but I am not Irish. Both my parents & all my grandparents are/were Scots & I was born & raised in Scotland.

~Bachaveli Don~ said:
well i just said i dont consider Lampard as world class. i dont think i said hes not getting praised from around the Europe. even if he did, it wont make him world class would it?
I never said it would, did I?

~Bachaveli Don~ said:
well, abviously your opinion is sounding more like dick riding.
This makes no sense. I gave my opinion & backed it up with points. You disagreed with my opinion but put forth no points to refute my opinion. You mentioned Nedved but that proved what....? Nothing, because I never disagreed that Nedved was a better player.

I asked you to name some wingers that were better & you named a player who is not strictly a winger. You asked me to do the opposite & I did so........but you conveniently overlooked this.
 
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Again, Nedved is too versatile to be pigeonholed like that.
hes natural position is in left wing.

CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Why do you insist on making irrelevant points like the emboldened?
well, you asked me to name you better left winger then Duff. did, Nedved. then you said Nedved was not a winger. then i said yes he is and therefore that makes him also better player then Duff in my book.






CalcuoCuchicheo said:
This makes no sense. I gave my opinion & backed it up with points. You disagreed with my opinion but put forth no points to refute my opinion. You mentioned Nedved but that proved what....? Nothing, because I never disagreed that Nedved was a better player.
whole lot of everything. not my fault you dont consider him a left winger. you asked me for a better left winger and i gave you one.


CalcuoCuchicheo said:
I asked you to name some wingers that were better & you named a player who is not strictly a winger. You asked me to do the opposite & I did so........but you conveniently overlooked this.
listen, strictly or not Nedved plays in left wing. he doesnt have to be playing in 'strictly' position anyway to be compared with Duff. (it should only tell you the kinda good player that he is cause he is so versatile player unlike Duff.) lol. (teasing is good.)
 
ThUg $TyLe said:
England don't do shit it tournament, like everyone likes to point out lets see the last 2 tournament they were knocked out by the best team in the world Brazil, and knocked out by the hosts in a penalty shoot out vs Portugual. Its not under achieving, the shoot out is being unlucky, the defeat to Brazil is being beaten by the best team in the world.

given the right manager at both points in time, we could have ended up winning both tournaments. i dont know sven tactics, hes been here for 4-5 years, and he still doesnt know what to do with our sqaud.

remember when brazil were down 2 10 men, any manager, apart from sven as we continually find ou, should have gone to an attcacking formation, but instead he made the players sit back.

brazil wasnt "world class" at all, world cup2002 was 1 of the worst tournaments i had ever watched. 1 freaky free kick fucked us up. and as gareth southgate said about svens half time team talk : "we needed winston churchill, but we got iain duncan-smith instead".

and the portugal game, that was a disaster. simply because sven didnt have no plan b, just like the brazill 2002 game. all sven relied on in 2004 was rooney. and when he got took of injured, we was rubbish, had no clue how 2 attack let alone defend.

see the link???? if we had a better manager, a english mananger, we would be world champions and european champions without doubt. and it is underachieving. theres only 5 teams above us in the world rankings, but we could easily beat any of them teams above us, including brazil, france and czech republic.
 
Lost Tapes said:
Ill Tell You A World Class English Player Who Is The Future Centre Back For England

Joleon Lescott :thumb:
hahaha lescott. thats a joke for sure, u got 2 be joking about him.
i seen that volley he scored against festa city, and it was a good goal.
but seriously, lescott aint shit. hes never going 2 touch the england team when the likes of Dawson are around. Dawson is 20 times better than lescott. and ive seen lescott play against forest twice this seson, and also seen him when wolves are on sky. even wes morgan is a better defender than lescott.
 
and stop talking bout nedved, he is quality, but as i see people just want 2 talk about non-english players like duff and nedved. ENGLISH FOOTBALLERS thread FFS.
 
Matt10 said:
hahaha lescott. thats a joke for sure, u got 2 be joking about him.
i seen that volley he scored against festa city, and it was a good goal.
but seriously, lescott aint shit. hes never going 2 touch the england team when the likes of Dawson are around. Dawson is 20 times better than lescott. and ive seen lescott play against forest twice this seson, and also seen him when wolves are on sky. even wes morgan is a better defender than lescott.

Do Me A Favour....Shut The Fuck Up :thumb:
 
Lost Tapes said:
Do Me A Favour....Shut The Fuck Up :thumb:


no way larry. why not argue that lescott will be world class instead of being unfavourable. your the 1 who said lescott was going 2 be world class. im sorry but saying that is a awful thing 2 claim. lescott is a solid, tidy defender but he got found out early on in the premiership. and hes not exactly been magical in the championship this season has he? so give ,me a reason or 2 that lescott will be world class. cuz id like 2 fucking know.
 
Matt10 said:
no way larry. why not argue that lescott will be world class instead of being unfavourable. your the 1 who said lescott was going 2 be world class. im sorry but saying that is a awful thing 2 claim. lescott is a solid, tidy defender but he got found out early on in the premiership. and hes not exactly been magical in the championship this season has he? so give ,me a reason or 2 that lescott will be world class. cuz id like 2 fucking know.

So You Expect A Player To Be Straight At His Best When He Had A Hernia Operation On Both Legs And Its His First Season Back, Before He Had The Operation The Season We Got Promoted He Was Great Also In The Fa Cup Where He Had Shearer On Lock Down And Shearer Is Nothing Less The World Class, Even This Season He Was Given Henry A Hard Time At Times In The Fa Cup, If Dawson Is A Great Player As You Say He Would Not Have Left Nottingham In The Postion They Were In Before He Went To Spurs, Cuz 1 Great Defender Can Make A Diffrence And He Was Struggling In The Championship, He Is A Great Player But No Were Near Lescott IMO :thumb:
 
Lost Tapes said:
So You Expect A Player To Be Straight At His Best When He Had A Hernia Operation On Both Legs And Its His First Season Back, Before He Had The Operation The Season We Got Promoted He Was Great Also In The Fa Cup Where He Had Shearer On Lock Down And Shearer Is Nothing Less The World Class, Even This Season He Was Given Henry A Hard Time At Times In The Fa Cup, If Dawson Is A Great Player As You Say He Would Not Have Left Nottingham In The Postion They Were In Before He Went To Spurs, Cuz 1 Great Defender Can Make A Diffrence And He Was Struggling In The Championship, He Is A Great Player But No Were Near Lescott IMO :thumb:

hey,. nice 2 see u respond, and im glad u pointed lescotts injury out, as i didnt know bout that. as you say he managed 2 keep out henry and shearer, but what about the likes of dickov and collins john(allthough i think the latter will be a good assett for anyteam in the prem).

i suppose a weak defence lead 2 his downfall in the prem last year, but as u say, a good defender can make a difference, but lescott didnt make much difference last saeson. and as for dawson he hasnt had a full pre-season for 2 years, the year after we finished in the playoffs he got glandular fever, and that fucked him up for the best part of last season, and the pre-season just gone he picked up a injury which kept him out for the first 3 months of this season. so he wasnt going 2 be match fit. but we got 4 mill for dawson, i know price tags dont really resemble the true value of the player of the club. how much would lescott sell for?

if u put terry(he did play for forest years ago on loan, and he did make a difference back then) and carvalho in forest's back line this season, they wouldnt have made a difference at all. theres more shit going on inside the club that other fans know nothing about.

im glad 2 see players like Jenas, Prutton, Dawson and Reid playing where they should play.

and at least u didnt start all the piss taking about forest getting relegated yesterday, so props 2 u man.
 

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