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CalcuoCuchicheo · May 3, 2005

Not to start shit but I do think - from wat I see - most Premiership fans are shit.

Of course, I do acknowledge the 'hardcore' element who never shut up.

In Scotland, Old Firm fans are generally noisy. Not always to the biggest extent a la an Old Firm game but, sometimes it seems like there is a larger 'hardcore' element in the Old Firm's stands than in those of the Premiership teams. It seems like the Premiership games have a family atmosphere at times......

Zero Cool · May 3, 2005

^^True but Old Firm games have that feeling of "war" due to their supporters lol that Premiership games very rarely have.

Matt10 · May 3, 2005

Taliq said:

thats the biggest load of drivel that has been spouted on the internet.

and my original statement stated that man u fans dont come from manchester. i admit a FEW mancs are united fans, not many tho, and u get outnumbered by city.

but more united fans come from out of manchester, and out of england for that matter. what the fuck, are u a refugee or sumin, cuz u have no grasp of football knowledge, ask any fan from this country bout uniteds fan base.

and united arent that a great team, even today. how long did this great big side go without a trophy, 26 or 28 yrs, real footballing giants.

just cuz forest got relegated doesnt mean shit, we'll still get over 20k for home games, and outnumber league 1 fans at their own stadiums. forest fans are loyal, unlike u united fans, i hope arsenal win the fa cup and put you bunch of loosers in the wilderness.

malcom glaizer should take control of united, and put your season ticket prices up 10 fold cuz then u might actually get an atmosphere at old trafford instead of 60k fans eating prawn sandwhiches.

theater of dreams, dont make me laugh. roy keane had 2 get your fans 2 show vocal support, wheras other fans get moaned at by thier respective captains for getting on the backs of the team, and thats your support?

jealous???? we won back 2 back european trophies, so untill united do that, youll never have a better team than our lot from the 80's. a team of nobodies dominating europe. cloughie was by far a better manager than busby, and 90% of football heads know this and will tell u so.

instead of trying 2 insult me or my family, take a look in the mirror cuz u probably dont like yourself. and if my sister saw this, ud be fucking apoligising. dont speak on me,. or my fucking family u fucking manc. manchester means nothing 2 us notts folk. mosside, bollocks 2 that.

CalcuoCuchicheo · May 3, 2005

Zero Cool said:

I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you here or what, but I was talking about all Rangers games & all Celtic games, not just the Old Firm match which completely obliterates - in terms of atmosphere - anything south of the border.

Zero Cool · May 3, 2005

CalcuoCuchicheo said:

Yeah I know. It's just that both sets of fans are that little bit more committed (for obvious reasons) than the average fan over the sea is.

tHuG $TyLe · May 3, 2005

Matt10 said:

Man utd right now are a good side in transition, the young generation is getting old, its needs time for the new generation to reach their full potential.

Man Utd went 26 years without a trophy, now look at what they have won in the last 15 years, then look at what Forest has won in the past 15 years.

Utd will be playing in the San Siro, Nou Camp, while Forest will be playing vs Grimbsy and Yeovil, used to be a great side, i do have a soft spot for Forest, but to call Utd not a great side makes Forest look more and more pathetic right now.

Man Utd's treble winning side is one of the best sides ever.

Also ive never been to a scottish premiership match, but from some fans (mainly Rangers im guessing) say that Celtic's atmoshphere is shit against teams like, Dunfermilne, Kilmarnock etc, is this true?

CalcuoCuchicheo · May 3, 2005

The atmosphere of both Celtic Park & Ibrox can be shit at times against the smaller teams, but rarely for a whole match & like I say, a Premiership team might have 5% of their fans who are 'hardcore' while the Old Firm will have around 15% of the fans who are 'hardcore'...at every match.

So while the majority of the fans might be quiet at times, there will always be some shit going on.

While Premiership fans look like they've taken a hit of Valium.....

Matt10 · May 3, 2005

thugstyle,,,,,
and u can reallly defend that can you?. united in transition?, united are allways title favourites, so untill they are rank outsiders, they are not in transition. ferguson is making these claims 2 brainwash believers of his management 2 think he is gonna be a top manager again. thats just not gonna happen. and a FOREST FAN WILL TELL U THAT. look what happend with clough, ask your father about this cuz he should know. the same thing is happening 2 "sir" alex.

look through the decades of dominante teams, your reign is over and its chelseas' turn 2 take over. so accept it.

and if u knew what was happening in english football u should now whats going on. the collapse of tv money for non-premiership teams was a major factor of every league football club at that time, and even today is still visable today. and its not asif forest dont make the pages of the national rags. u go on about 15 years, whatever has happend over the last 15 years is a different story. and as a united fan u wouldnt understand what has happend at forest. and a united fan is arrogant 2 what happens at other clubs.

but your right about yeovil, cuz they are probably gonna end up champions of "league 2", but if u bothered 2 look u would see that grimsby are not even close to getting promoted. and so what if united should be playing in the san siro or nou camp, that means fuck all. and by rights its not asif united deserve 2 play at those type of grounds, because u are not going 2 be the champions, so why the fuck should u qualify for a CHAMPIONS cup?

we all know throughout the world that uefa and fifa have fucked the world football system, but continuing this stupid policy of a team like liverpool, with all respect, COULD be soon be crowned CHAMPIONS of europe despite finishing 4th, and only just scraping a win against newcastle end up winning a trophy thet shouldnt even be in is fucked up,m and thats whats happend in 99.

united finished 2nd the prior to '99's treble? im right?
but did united deserve the right 2 play in that tournament even though u didnt win the league. and when u win the league, u are champions of that country. not finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th means u are champions. and thats 1 of the reason european football is wank nowadays.

united in the fa cup. how the fuck can u claim u love the trophy. u fucked off the greatest knock-out tournament in the world, to play in a fucked up attempt for a trophy,why do u think most of the hatered of united has blown up in the past 6-7 years??(im not saying i hate united for that.i dont hate united, i only hate 1 english team, and thats derby but u understand this)

were they really 1 OF THE BEST SIDES EVER? thats a claim to far.

Taliq · May 4, 2005

Matt10 said:

a FEW? u dickhead. there's thousands of ManU fans in manchester. how the fuck r u gonna comment u dumbfuck? do u live there? no, so stop talkin bullshit based on urban myths. And what proof do u have that city have more fans than United in manchester? show me figures u son of a 2 penny whore. i went to different schools/colleges in more than three different areas (ardwick/Longsight/Gorton/Rusholme). I hang round in other areas (Mosside/Hulme/Cheetham Hill). Most of the people i meet/hanground wit/talk to are manu fans. that cud be a coincedance...but it contradicts ur bullshit views

Matt10 said:

Im not arguin against this. but ur using it to diss manU? u thick fuck...oh its so bad that we've got international suppot based on our large amounts of success and internationally recognised players...shit it so bad that on us and shows us how bad we are that u got relegated u insignificant gimp

Matt10 said:

relegation ne one?

Matt10 said:

shit..ow will we cope with playin in the premiership and champions league. i sooo wish we were in the harder lower divisions :rolleyes:

damn relegation proves ur a good team duznt it? u fuck up

Matt10 said:

how many coin phrases u gonna use u slag? i can guarentee the amount of people that actaully eat prawn sandwiches is next to nothin. its true we av glory hunters as do most other big teams. but wot do u need to get glory hunters? glory, success...NOT relegation. and glazer wantin to take us over...why do u think that is...il giv u a cookie if u get it..yes thats right cos we're a successful club who have won things in the recent past. who the fuck wud buy forest?

Matt10 said:

happens with all the big premiership teams...lemme say that again..premiership, muthafuka. and i doubt uv been to a game at old trafford so u cant comment on the support, which i can assure u is one of the better support in the premiership.

Matt10 said:

were u even born then u cunt? right so shut the fuck up. and ur talkin bullshit again...cos u even sed it urself. a team of nobodies winnin in Europe. wot duz that tell u about hte level of competition at the time? that sorta thing wud be impossible nowadays cos that level of shite wud neva win anythin. wen united have wont in Europe the level of the teams we have played against surpass the shit that ur shit played against. all it was was timin. cloughie better than busby? so wot? mourinho's prolly betta than the both of em. the fact is ur shit

Matt10 said:

let ur sister see this..who the fuck cares. fuck nots u crackwhore. dont try and puul the gangster shit on me u twat...u no nothin. we been on the guncrime for almost 30 years now...london prolly longer. notts is jus a recent thing thats why its on the news, but u aint nothin special...ur jus new media meat u fuckin pussies. and if u knew anythin about it, ud no the top heads in notts are all ex-gooch (ie a mosside gang), u fuckin clueless fuck. ud get slapped senseless u cunt. and dont try cummin at me with bullshit cos i know the script. ive bin notts, its full of ugly lookin pussies. i dunno who's fuckin more animal lookin the gyal or the fellas..shud all be put down fuckin ugly heathen scum. wot the fucks in nottingham neways? shit football team, ugly people, shit shops, no big artists goin there, shit infrastructure, pussy newbie gangs...admit it its full of shit. tlak to me when ur on the level of london, manchester, birmingham, leeds, glasgow, cardiff...i cud go on. shit cunt

Zero Cool · May 4, 2005

^^You make good points Taliq but LOL @ your last one.

When Man U were relegated in the early 70's they had 40 K plus at home matches.

CalcuoCuchicheo · May 4, 2005

Matt10 said:

Not 'by rights'. The teams who performed the best in the previous season from the best leagues play in the best club competition in the world - that's all there is to it. If we had weaker teams like Rosenborg, Kiev & the like, in there with the strongest teams like Barcelona, Chelsea & the like, then it's going to be less competitive more foten. Also, there would be a lot less money in it (the main reason for having most of the big clubs in there).

Cooper · May 4, 2005

i've been

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suck my balls

tHuG $TyLe · May 4, 2005

Matt10 said:

United in the FA Cup were forced into the tournament in Brazil by the FA, so it would look good for FIFA and enhance Englands chances of hosting the World Cup 2006, i bet you wouldn't of complained if England were hosting it.

Well if its Chelsea time to reign, then they shouldnt be in the CL this season either, they didnt win the league last season.

Im not bothered about League 1 or 2, only team i care about mostly in the lower leagues is Wycombe Wanderers, who lol are only 1 division behind you, and they are useless. This town could prolly fit into to Nottingham 3 times.

Yes the 1999 treble season team was one of the best teams, the Champions league is alot harder to win now then is used to be, more teams etc, plus with a group including Barcalona and Bayern Munich, and knock outs vs Inter Milan and Juventus and winning in Turin which is hard for any team let alone an English team. (were 2-0 down also in that tie)

A forest fan doesn't mean shit, because you don't obviously know what is happening at United.

Scholes, Giggs, Keane, G.Neville, P.Neville are getting older, replacements are needed, younger players have been brought in Ronaldo, Fletcher, Smith, Rooney. They haven't hit their prime yet. United are in tranisition abit like Liverpool are.

Yeah sorry playing in the San Siro and Nou Camo doesn't mean shit, ok lets all go to Yeovil and play, coz then it will mean something :thumb: :rolleyes:

Cooper · May 4, 2005

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Matt10 · May 5, 2005

hahaha, i see i ruffled your feathers.

wycombe is a town, nottingham is a city, the difference is the population. everybody knows whats happening at united, unless u lock yourself away from the media, u get it shoved down your throat everyday.

your right about chelsea this season. but if u read what i said correctly, i said its stupid that non-winners enter a CHAMPIONS cup. did i contradict my self?

uniteds 99 team were good, but AS I SAID, untill a united team win BACK-2-BACK european trophies, u wont have a better side than our lot from 79-80

Peter Shilton, Viv Anderson,John Mcgovern, Ian Bowyer, David Needham, Trevor Francis, Frank Clark, Tony Woodcock, Larry LLoyd, Garry Birtles, Martin O'Neill, Archie Gemmill, Kenny Burns, Collin Barrett, John O'Hare and Garry Mills.

apart from Shilton and Francis.........that was a squad of nobodies, journymen and players who no other team wanted. its like the eqivelent of say.....Burnley, not buying anyplayers next season, gaining promotion, the season after u only buy a 36yr old left back and buying a up and coming keeper, such as 2day that would be robinson, and winning the prem in the first year of top flight football.

then add the signingof the 1st million pound player in britain, the team dominted the european cup on the trot.

and uniteds bunch off overpaid stars made a greater achievement?????

and why do you keep saying your going 2 the san siro and that, are u actually going yourself?????? i doubt that very much. and going 2 places like yeovil and barnsley will be fun to go to.

another united fan, and the rest showing arrogance yet again. open your mind.

Matt10 · May 5, 2005

taliq------ speak english. and im not coming 2 your level of misguided insults because u made yourself look like a complete tosser. like i said are u a refugee??? cuz your english suggest u are 1.

and 2 be honest i coulnt be fucked 2 read all of that bullshit. i only read the 1st paragraph and realised its gonna be the same shit all the way through.

learn how 2 write. then i might read your "thoughtfull" insights. ok.

and looking at @'s post. i have been 2 old trafford. twice.

and the atmosphere was fuck all 2 shout about. and for your info, we beat united 2-1, but lost the other 3-0.

tHuG $TyLe · May 5, 2005

Matt10 said:

Lol ruffled feathers? how, i wasn't insulting you in anyway like you and Taliq have been doing.

Wycombe has less population but you could be playing them the season after next :thumb:

Who says i won't be going to the San Siro? if you don't know, seeing as the only way Forset will get into Europe is on a holiday it costs money to travel, and frankly i don't have any money :thumb: A few legal problems have put everything on hold for a few months.

United are not arrogant, we just try and debate with haters and we get called arrogant :thumb:

PS. You don't know whats happening at United because you didn't know about the transition they are in, and if you don't think they are 'Open your mind.

tHuG $TyLe · May 5, 2005

Matt10 said:

taliq------ speak english. and im not coming 2 your level of misguided insults because u made yourself look like a complete tosser. like i said are u a refugee??? cuz your english suggest u are 1.

and 2 be honest i coulnt be fucked 2 read all of that bullshit. i only read the 1st paragraph and realised its gonna be the same shit all the way through.

learn how 2 write. then i might read your "thoughtfull" insights. ok.

and looking at @'s post. i have been 2 old trafford. twice.

and the atmosphere was fuck all 2 shout about. and for your info, we beat united 2-1, but lost the other 3-0.

8-1 8-1 8-1

Solskjear 4 goals in 20 minutes

Taliq · May 6, 2005

Matt10 said:

born and bred mancunian.

if u cant understand simple sentences (with a few mistakes i admit cos i dont go thru proof readin it) it duznt matter...il let u off for bein a brain dead wetback

Matt10 · May 6, 2005

Taliq said:

simple sentences..........yeah ok, ill let u off with that (cuz u have the reason of not proof reading, basically, u have ripped yourself).

brain dead wetback???? ok then..... doesnt bother me.

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