Where is Jesus?

Glockmatic

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What about the people that do go out and kill others? Its written in there for everyone.
some people also eat their own feces, its common sense not to do that but people do it as well. Some people don't follow common sense and we call them idiots

I follow God, not a religion. You can throw christianity in the religion mix, but its the only one thats going to get you where you want to go. And Ill help you dismiss any other.
How can you dismiss every other religion? Islam says that the bible is corrupted and that islam is the true religion, what makes them less than christianity?
 
Glockmatic said:
some people also eat their own feces, its common sense not to do that but people do it as well. Some people don't follow common sense and we call them idiots


Who eats their own feces?? Nevermind, some would say that its common sense to not break any of the 10 commandments. You know it wrong to lie right? But you and I have both done it. They are there to show us how God sees us. As sinners once we realize that, then we can be helped.

Glockmatic said:
How can you dismiss every other religion? Islam says that the bible is corrupted and that islam is the true religion, what makes them less than christianity?

Put Islam to the test that you put the Bible through and see how it turns out.
 
Duke said:
I'm not saying that these days all religions are mass controlling tools. Religion, probably most notably Catholicism and to a lesser extent Islam, hasn't got such a strong grip on life as it did, say, 600/700 years ago. It is not feasible anymore to think of it like that, but the origins of organized religion stem from the need to control the masses.

I have no qualms with personal religion. It is a personal thing, after all. It is the organized religi-fundi's that stuff their bullshit down my throat that I want to stomp in the ground.
I understand and agree with some of you statements. However if someone is trying to get you to become a christian, it is only because they care about you. It is not easy to just go out and talk to people like that, because there is alot of people against it (see this thread), but they feel obligated to do so because they know the truth. Whether or not you make a commitment is up to you. But try not to get upset at people who are just trying to help.
 

Glockmatic

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Who eats their own feces?? Nevermind, some would say that its common sense to not break any of the 10 commandments. You know it wrong to lie right? But you and I have both done it. They are there to show us how God sees us. As sinners once we realize that, then we can be helped.
look up scat porn. Ten commandments are common sense? The first four commandments are not common sense because a remote village in africa doesn't know a thing about jesus so how would they know that working on sunday is a sin. In the bible theres lying (John 7:8-10)

Put Islam to the test that you put the Bible through and see how it turns out.
Don't avoid the question, both are bullshit to me, why is one less bullshit to you?
 

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Glockmatic said:
The first four commandments are not common sense because a remote village in africa doesn't know a thing about jesus so how would they know that working on sunday is a sin.
How do you know that? 92% of the African population are Muslim and Christian and both believe in Jesus. The other 8% are indigenous beliefs so the odds of hearing about Jesus in Africa are pretty damn good
 

Duke

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W210 said:
I understand and agree with some of you statements. However if someone is trying to get you to become a christian, it is only because they care about you. It is not easy to just go out and talk to people like that, because there is alot of people against it (see this thread), but they feel obligated to do so because they know the truth. Whether or not you make a commitment is up to you. But try not to get upset at people who are just trying to help.

Telling people in Africa they can't use condoms is not classified as trying to help in my book.
 

Glockmatic

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The other 8% are indigenous beliefs so the odds of hearing about Jesus in Africa are pretty damn good
how do YOU know that? Lets consider they heard about jesus, did they study his teachings? Or do they only know his by name/painting and nothing else?
 

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Glockmatic said:
how do YOU know that?
Cause its fact? North/East Africa are Muslim and South/West Africa are Christian with idigenous minorities in all countries, Do a search if you dont believe me. So they HAVE herd of Jesus just never bothered to study because they have their own beliefs maybe?


Lets consider they heard about jesus, did they study his teachings? Or do they only know his by name/painting and nothing else?
Why do you ask this question "a remote village in africa doesn't know a thing about jesus so how would they know that working on sunday is a sin" if you expect Christians to grab and tie down these people and force them to study about Jesus? And if they did that would that not be "control" to you? You contradict yourself even worse than Illuminatille
 

Glockmatic

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So they HAVE herd of Jesus just never bothered to study because they have their own beliefs maybe?
No, they HAVEN'T. You assume because the continent is mostly christiant and muslim then everyone has heard of jesus, but there ARE places where they haven't even seen a white man before.

Why do you ask this question "a remote village in africa doesn't know a thing about jesus so how would they know that working on sunday is a sin" if you expect Christians to grab and tie down these people and force them to study about Jesus? And if they did that would that not be "control" to you? You contradict yourself even worse than Illuminatille
I asked that question because w210 said the ten commandments was common sense and everyone in the world understands it, but thats false. But of course you didn't answer the question you just say "of course they heard of jesus", well replace africa with any insolated group and answer the question
 

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Glockmatic said:
No, they HAVEN'T. You assume because the continent is mostly christiant and muslim then everyone has heard of jesus, but there ARE places where they haven't even seen a white man before.
All countries in Africa are dominated by either Christians or Muslims when I say dominated I mean 80% or over and if a small minority being surrounded by that many believers of a "Jesus" most likely they've heard of him. I read about christianity much before i've seen a white man so what exactly is your point?

In that part of the world the possibility of hearing or reading about a figure thats studied and believed by 80% of the people around you is alot bigger than that of seeing a white man who lives hundreds if not thousands of miles away from you.


I'm also Not denying the fact that some have not heard of him but the majority have

I asked that question because w210 said the ten commandments was common sense and everyone in the world understands it, but thats false. But of course you didn't answer the question you just say "of course they heard of jesus", well replace africa with any insolated group and answer the question
Well because I never said the ten commandments are common sense lol. I dont think we're on the same page here.
 

Glockmatic

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I'm also Not denying the fact that some have not heard of him but the majority have
and the minority that hasn't, hasn't. Therefore my question is how that minority, however small it is, knows what the ten commandments are as common sense.

Well because I never said the ten commandments are common sense lol. I dont think we're on the same page here.
W210 said it was, my post was directed at him but then you took it and replied to it
 

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Glockmatic said:
please do, i'm tired of the christian point of view (but i have a feeling it'll be the same)
Ever since the creation of "man" to the communities of people who settled in different lands, God has been sending His messengers or prophets to guide them along the “right path” which is "Islam" and be a "Muslim" which means "Submission to the one true and only Creator". However when prophets passed away, people who followed them differed among themselves in the understanding of the Guidance they had received from God through those prophets. Sometimes, the wicked and selfish among them, deliberately distorted the “true religion” out of their mutual ill will or to satisfy their greed.

It was that way new religions took place. Still, God sent prophets again to call people back to the “original pure religion”. Nevertheless, these prophets were often treated with contempt and derision by their people. again, God kept sending His prophets to teach people the “true religion”, as it was constantly being replaced by the innovations of mankind.

Later, when human culture and civilization came of age, and the new ways of printing and communication was at its best, God sent His last prophet, Muhammad (p) to fulfill what the earlier prophets (Moses, Noah Jesus and so on) had been teaching. He was given the Holy Qur'an, the final Book of revelation, which God promised to safeguard from all change or corruption. .

In fact the Religion taught by all the prophets was Islam(submission to God) the faith all previous prophets/religions originally taught, though later their followers attributed their religions to the names of the prophets or so-called founders of those religions. Some even made such attributions to the names of the land where those prophets lived. Thus it was that Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Judaism and Christianity were born.

That provides an explanation to the other thread where you mentioned the Buddha teachings being similar to that of Jesus'. You should not be surprised if you came across 2 religions being very similar because at one point All religions taught the same belief (submission to God AKA Islam) and had the same God though later changed by mankind

Islam the First and last religion Of God (submission to him) is unique in that it is NOT named after any person, Tribe, Region or Culture. It is not Mohammedinity like Christianity Its not Meccanism like Judaism, Islam is what the original Followers of Moses and the Original followers of Jesus once were, Muslims, Belivers who submit to the one and true God. Islam is named after a belief in one God(Allah), and submission to His will. The religion all prophets of God once taught.

No religion Exploded like Islam in that short amount of time, Truth stands out from error, Ever since Islam was finally revealed it has remained the fastest growing religion and will remain the fastest growing religion in the world. People embrace Islam by the millions each year from all walks of life especially in the Westen World. This can't be argued, this is fact here. The same can't be said about any other religion. For that reason I believe people are being guided to the unchanged truth all religions once taught.
 

Glockmatic

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Later, when human culture and civilization came of age, and the new ways of printing and communication was at its best, God sent His last prophet, Muhammad (p) to fulfill what the earlier prophets (Moses, Noah Jesus and so on) had been teaching.
China created paper 500 years before islam came about and had mastered its technique, why wasn't the true and final religion created there?

In fact the Religion taught by all the prophets was Islam(submission to God)
Why would god send 3 prophets who taught TOTALLY different teachings than judaism christianity and islam? Hinduism teaches polytheism and reincarnation, buddhism had no real answer to if there is god, and confucianism does not mention god

That provides an explanation to the other thread where you mentioned the Buddha teachings being similar to that of Jesus'.
another explanation is the ideas of buddhism travelled to the middle east and they used it. A more reasonable and possible explanation

Islam the First and last religion Of God (submission to him) is unique in that it is NOT named after any person, Tribe, Region or Culture.
Thats wrong, Buddhism isn't named after a person, tribe region or culture. Confucianism is a western name, the chinese name does not have confucians name, a tribe, region or culture in it.

No religion Exploded like Islam in that short amount of time, Truth stands out from error, Ever since Islam was finally revealed it has remained the fastest growing religion and will remain the fastest growing religion in the world.
Islam spread quickly because of the land conquered by islamic conquests after muhammed death, that is a fact. But there no denying that it is the fastest growing religion in the world

What i don't understand is how it is considered the one true religion when god made so many mistakes with the past prophets, how are we so sure that islam is the right one? Didn't he think that the previous ones were the true religions?
 

Preach

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Jokerman said:
Yeah, precisely because he's a myth. Myths are designed to have a powerful effect on ppl, esp. if they believe in it. Hence, every religious belief.
i know this was 10 pages ago, but i was high and i was reading this and i just have to say i love you dude.
 
Duke said:
Telling people in Africa they can't use condoms is not classified as trying to help in my book.
I have no idea what you are talking about. What does that have to do with religion? If that is some rule for another religion then I agree that that is retarded.
 

Glockmatic

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W210 said:
Another reason why I disagree with catholicism then. What could possibly be the reasoning behind that?
something about "sex is about making babies, using condoms is like abortion". Why do you disagree with catholicism? They follow the teachings of jesus just like you do
 

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