Where Are YOU Going When You Die
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Can you explain your reasoning behind this? Perhaps that they remain sinless?
And also, explain how they would be in heaven. Would they just be a fertilised egg lying around?
Again, explain your reasoning. Humans have souls but animals don't......we are animals. Or is it that we're special?
But then if the Big Man upstairs locks the gates, you ain't getting in. God is all powerful, right? So he can do whatever the hell he wants.
And also, explain how they would be in heaven. Would they just be a fertilised egg lying around?
Again, explain your reasoning. Humans have souls but animals don't......we are animals. Or is it that we're special?
But then if the Big Man upstairs locks the gates, you ain't getting in. God is all powerful, right? So he can do whatever the hell he wants.
Can you explain your reasoning behind this? Perhaps that they remain sinless?
And also, explain how they would be in heaven. Would they just be a fertilised egg lying around?
Again, explain your reasoning. Humans have souls but animals don't......we are animals. Or is it that we're special?
But then if the Big Man upstairs locks the gates, you ain't getting in. God is all powerful, right? So he can do whatever the hell he wants.
And also, explain how they would be in heaven. Would they just be a fertilised egg lying around?
Again, explain your reasoning. Humans have souls but animals don't......we are animals. Or is it that we're special?
But then if the Big Man upstairs locks the gates, you ain't getting in. God is all powerful, right? So he can do whatever the hell he wants.
when you are first born you don't understand God and you don't understand how to be saved. if you do not understand how to be saved then God takes you to heaven if you die. if a person has been retarted all his life and he doesn't understand God and can't then he if going to heaven.
i don't really know how to xplain tha one about animals. they don't have a soul though and i am 100% sure. you will not see any in heaven or hell.
God is not gonna lock tha gates. God wants everyone to go to heaven. yeah he can do whatever he wants, but He is not gonna do that. if you get saved you are going to heaven and anyone can do that.
when you are first born you don't understand God and you don't understand how to be saved. if you do not understand how to be saved then God takes you to heaven if you die. if a person has been retarted all his life and he doesn't understand God and can't then he if going to heaven.
i don't really know how to xplain tha one about animals. they don't have a soul though and i am 100% sure. you will not see any in heaven or hell.
God is not gonna lock tha gates. God wants everyone to go to heaven. yeah he can do whatever he wants, but He is not gonna do that. if you get saved you are going to heaven and anyone can do that.
What if this "retarted" (sic) person is a violent criminal, would they just be let loose in heaven to slice up all the angels? Would the person still be "retarded" in Heaven, because surely if they're that mentally retarded they wouldn't be able to comprehend or enjoy it anyway?
And why doesn't God just make everyone non-"retarded" in the first place, so he doesn't have to just let people in without knowing if, deep down, they're good or not?
And why doesn't God just make everyone non-"retarded" in the first place, so he doesn't have to just let people in without knowing if, deep down, they're good or not?
What if this "retarted" (sic) person is a violent criminal, would they just be let loose in heaven to slice up all the angels? Would the person still be "retarded" in Heaven, because surely if they're that mentally retarded they wouldn't be able to comprehend or enjoy it anyway?
And why doesn't God just make everyone non-"retarded" in the first place, so he doesn't have to just let people in without knowing if, deep down, they're good or not?
And why doesn't God just make everyone non-"retarded" in the first place, so he doesn't have to just let people in without knowing if, deep down, they're good or not?
can this mentally ill person control his actions is tha question. there is no slicing of angels in heaven. in heaven there is NO sin. God can't make everyone on earth perfect. we all have trials and tribulations. if someone down on earth is mentally ill and can't understand how to get saved then in heaven he is gonna be perfectly fine and will get great things because down hear he suffered, but in heaven he will have peace at last.
can this mentally ill person control his actions is tha question. there is no slicing of angels in heaven. in heaven there is NO sin. God can't make everyone on earth perfect. we all have trials and tribulations. if someone down on earth is mentally ill and can't understand how to get saved then in heaven he is gonna be perfectly fine and will get great things because down hear he suffered, but in heaven he will have peace at last.
Funny, I thought he was omnipotent...
Besides, I'm not saying "why doesn't God make everyone perfect?", I'm saying "why doesn't God give everyone a chance to prove themselves as Heaven-worthy?" If you're in a permanent vegetative state for your entire life, or if you die just after being born, you get straight into heaven. There's no trial or tribulation there. You don't have to live by God's rules or prove yourself as a good person, you just get in. That completely undermines the whole "you have to prove yourself on Earth to get into heaven" idea. Plus, once you're in Heaven, you can't be evil anyway because "there's no sin in Heaven". People in Heaven are supposedly 'neutered', so to speak, to stop them being able to commit any sin whatsoever. So if I go to Heaven, I essentially lose my free will. I'm not the same person I was on earth. Being able to adhere to "the rules" on Earth doesn't mean I'm any more of a good person than a mass murderer, it just means I know how to play the game. It doesn't matter whether I get into Heaven or Charles Manson does, since we'll both be nice and innocent in Heaven.
If God just eliminated sin, which apparently he has in Heaven, there'd be no need for a Hell and there'd be absolute peace on earth.
Let me guess, "God works in mysterious ways".
God has supposedly set up a place where sin is impossible, yet he's only letting people in who didn't really sin anyway. What's the point in that? If God put everyone in a place without sin in the first place there would be no sinners. No innocent people would die and there'd be absolutely no suffering. I wouldn't have to deal with the incredible torment of having my sister raped or my parents killed. It's completely irrational. The more I think about it, the more I find it incredible that anyone can believe this. I don't know what kind of mentality you have to have to not reject the whole dogma once you're intelligent enough to think for yourself.
Besides, I'm not saying "why doesn't God make everyone perfect?", I'm saying "why doesn't God give everyone a chance to prove themselves as Heaven-worthy?" If you're in a permanent vegetative state for your entire life, or if you die just after being born, you get straight into heaven. There's no trial or tribulation there. You don't have to live by God's rules or prove yourself as a good person, you just get in. That completely undermines the whole "you have to prove yourself on Earth to get into heaven" idea. Plus, once you're in Heaven, you can't be evil anyway because "there's no sin in Heaven". People in Heaven are supposedly 'neutered', so to speak, to stop them being able to commit any sin whatsoever. So if I go to Heaven, I essentially lose my free will. I'm not the same person I was on earth. Being able to adhere to "the rules" on Earth doesn't mean I'm any more of a good person than a mass murderer, it just means I know how to play the game. It doesn't matter whether I get into Heaven or Charles Manson does, since we'll both be nice and innocent in Heaven.
If God just eliminated sin, which apparently he has in Heaven, there'd be no need for a Hell and there'd be absolute peace on earth.
Let me guess, "God works in mysterious ways".
God has supposedly set up a place where sin is impossible, yet he's only letting people in who didn't really sin anyway. What's the point in that? If God put everyone in a place without sin in the first place there would be no sinners. No innocent people would die and there'd be absolutely no suffering. I wouldn't have to deal with the incredible torment of having my sister raped or my parents killed. It's completely irrational. The more I think about it, the more I find it incredible that anyone can believe this. I don't know what kind of mentality you have to have to not reject the whole dogma once you're intelligent enough to think for yourself.
Funny, I thought he was omnipotent...
Besides, I'm not saying "why doesn't God make everyone perfect?", I'm saying "why doesn't God give everyone a chance to prove themselves as Heaven-worthy?" If you're in a permanent vegetative state for your entire life, or if you die just after being born, you get straight into heaven. There's no trial or tribulation there. You don't have to live by God's rules or prove yourself as a good person, you just get in. That completely undermines the whole "you have to prove yourself on Earth to get into heaven" idea. Plus, once you're in Heaven, you can't be evil anyway because "there's no sin in Heaven". People in Heaven are supposedly 'neutered', so to speak, to stop them being able to commit any sin whatsoever. So if I go to Heaven, I essentially lose my free will. I'm not the same person I was on earth. Being able to adhere to "the rules" on Earth doesn't mean I'm any more of a good person than a mass murderer, it just means I know how to play the game. It doesn't matter whether I get into Heaven or Charles Manson does, since we'll both be nice and innocent in Heaven.
If God just eliminated sin, which apparently he has in Heaven, there'd be no need for a Hell and there'd be absolute peace on earth.
Let me guess, "God works in mysterious ways".
God has supposedly set up a place where sin is impossible, yet he's only letting people in who didn't really sin anyway. What's the point in that? If God put everyone in a place without sin in the first place there would be no sinners. No innocent people would die and there'd be absolutely no suffering. I wouldn't have to deal with the incredible torment of having my sister raped or my parents killed. It's completely irrational. The more I think about it, the more I find it incredible that anyone can believe this. I don't know what kind of mentality you have to have to not reject the whole dogma once you're intelligent enough to think for yourself.
Besides, I'm not saying "why doesn't God make everyone perfect?", I'm saying "why doesn't God give everyone a chance to prove themselves as Heaven-worthy?" If you're in a permanent vegetative state for your entire life, or if you die just after being born, you get straight into heaven. There's no trial or tribulation there. You don't have to live by God's rules or prove yourself as a good person, you just get in. That completely undermines the whole "you have to prove yourself on Earth to get into heaven" idea. Plus, once you're in Heaven, you can't be evil anyway because "there's no sin in Heaven". People in Heaven are supposedly 'neutered', so to speak, to stop them being able to commit any sin whatsoever. So if I go to Heaven, I essentially lose my free will. I'm not the same person I was on earth. Being able to adhere to "the rules" on Earth doesn't mean I'm any more of a good person than a mass murderer, it just means I know how to play the game. It doesn't matter whether I get into Heaven or Charles Manson does, since we'll both be nice and innocent in Heaven.
If God just eliminated sin, which apparently he has in Heaven, there'd be no need for a Hell and there'd be absolute peace on earth.
Let me guess, "God works in mysterious ways".
God has supposedly set up a place where sin is impossible, yet he's only letting people in who didn't really sin anyway. What's the point in that? If God put everyone in a place without sin in the first place there would be no sinners. No innocent people would die and there'd be absolutely no suffering. I wouldn't have to deal with the incredible torment of having my sister raped or my parents killed. It's completely irrational. The more I think about it, the more I find it incredible that anyone can believe this. I don't know what kind of mentality you have to have to not reject the whole dogma once you're intelligent enough to think for yourself.
we were gonna be in a perfect place, but adam and eve sinned. they basically messed it all up for us. because of that we just have this world that is getting worse and worse. tha only way you can get into heaven without getting saved is if you do not understand how to get saved, as soon as you know how, then you can go to heaven or hell depending on if you accept God as your Savior. i'm too lazy to read each sentence and make a response for it, so if you could shorten your posts it'd be appreciated.
we were gonna be in a perfect place, but adam and eve sinned. they basically messed it all up for us. because of that we just have this world that is getting worse and worse. tha only way you can get into heaven without getting saved is if you do not understand how to get saved, as soon as you know how, then you can go to heaven or hell depending on if you accept God as your Savior. i'm too lazy to read each sentence and make a response for it, so if you could shorten your posts it'd be appreciated.
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