Technology PS3 vs. Wii

#41
masta247 said:
lol i don't agree with it. Graphics is one of the most important things in games. Thats why developers are going towards creating game most excellent graphically. Wii will give you a huge limit. It's hardware won't let developers to create anything more advanced than games that were already released or are to be released soon. Ps3 with Blu-ray, great CPU and GPU won't limit developers at all. They may create practically a photorealistic game. And the gameplay will also depend on developers. There is no thing that Wii can do that PS3 can't except having license on nintendo games and to be honest i never liked simple one.

P.S. The same story was with n64 and PS.. Gamecube and PS2/Xbox. Nintendo products were cheaper and weaker. Nearly nobody bought em. Everybody bought Sony's products. Because they were simply better. Now it's the same story but PS3 now give much more possibilieties than Wii.
Interesting arguement....but I found a fault.

The only reason why developers were always doing graphical upgrades is because that's all they could ever do. There were NO new controllers. And about what you said that there's nothing the PS3 can't do that the Wii can....

The PS3 will NEVER have exclusive games like the Wii the PS3's standard / old fashioned controller will never measure up to the Wii's controller. It will never be as precise, it will never be more realistic. The Wii has a freaking surgery game for God sakes. It has also turned out to be a must-have title for Wii owners. The PS3 cannot pull that game off. Why? The controller doesn't allow it! Also, there are controller SHELLS that the Wii remote can slide right into. The Wii controller can BE anything. It can be Surgeon's tools, a steering wheel, a sword, your hand, a flash light, a vacuum cleaner, an interactivity tool (so you can interact with the environments in the game), a hose, a fishing pole, whatever! The possibilities are endless. The PS3 controller cannot do things like this...therefore limiting the possibilities greatly!
 

masta247

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#42
I see it's pointless to argue as everybody have theyre own point and reason to buy a new console. It's hard to make everyone happy. That's why people have choice to buy anything. Technically PS3 is better but there are people who want to buy Wii for they're own reason and it's ok with me. Personally i can't picture myself sitting and moving my pad all over tv doing some stupid flips. i like to lay down after a hard day and simply play games that i like enjoying beautiful graphics. Plus i prefer the games that are coming out on PS. So maybe we should come to a conclusion that every console is good for some people as long as it works as it should :thumb:
 

masta247

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#43
MaKaVeLi2K3 said:
Interesting arguement....but I found a fault.

The only reason why developers were always doing graphical upgrades is because that's all they could ever do. There were NO new controllers. And about what you said that there's nothing the PS3 can't do that the Wii can....

The PS3 will NEVER have exclusive games like the Wii the PS3's standard / old fashioned controller will never measure up to the Wii's controller. It will never be as precise, it will never be more realistic. The Wii has a freaking surgery game for God sakes. It has also turned out to be a must-have title for Wii owners. The PS3 cannot pull that game off. Why? The controller doesn't allow it! Also, there are controller SHELLS that the Wii remote can slide right into. The Wii controller can BE anything. It can be Surgeon's tools, a steering wheel, a sword, your hand, a flash light, a vacuum cleaner, an interactivity tool (so you can interact with the environments in the game), a hose, a fishing pole, whatever! The possibilities are endless. The PS3 controller cannot do things like this...therefore limiting the possibilities greatly!
Also there will be PS3 games that Wii won't handle. Also you won't be able to enjoy PS3 graphics. That old controler is perfect for me. Ps have many exclusive titles like Tekken or Gran Turismo
 
#44
Rukas said:
^^^
You took that out of context. It doesnt mean it has the same spec hardware, it just means it is set up the same and has the same programing language thus it can be programmed for in a similar fashion.
there is barely a difference in the specs, few hundred Mhz extra on the CPU which will most likely be utilized for processing the controller movements. The GPU also isn;t that different either,no additional shader,insignificant speed differences.

Rukas said:
^^^ "The Wii has better capabilities than the GC"
it does, but slightly which no one would notice.
 

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#47
masta247 said:
lol i don't agree with it. Graphics is one of the most important things in games. Thats why developers are going towards creating game most excellent graphically. Wii will give you a huge limit. It's hardware won't let developers to create anything more advanced than games that were already released or are to be released soon. Ps3 with Blu-ray, great CPU and GPU won't limit developers at all. They may create practically a photorealistic game. And the gameplay will also depend on developers. There is no thing that Wii can do that PS3 can't except having license on nintendo games and to be honest i never liked simple one.
Using your theory stated above, the Gamecube should have been a better system and more successful than the PS2 because it had better hardware and graphics; it was not.

P.S. The same story was with n64 and PS.. Gamecube and PS2/Xbox. Nintendo products were cheaper and weaker. Nearly nobody bought em. Everybody bought Sony's products. Because they were simply better. Now it's the same story but PS3 now give much more possibilieties than Wii.
Not true, tech wise the GC was better than the PS2.
 

masta247

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#49
sorry forgot about Gamecube's specs.

Alright there was a game on Nintendo console i really liked. It was goldeneye on N64 :D it was awesome. Only fps that could compare was quake 2 on PS.
 

Glockmatic

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#50
all FPS games on consoles pale in comparison to the PC, you cannot beat the mouse and keyboard in FPS or RTS. PC Gamer did a test where they played Halo against an X-Box magazine (can't remember the name, but they work in the same building), PC Gamer used mouse and keyboard while the X-Box magazine used x-box controllers. PC Gamer destroyed them.
 

masta247

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#51
Glockmatic said:
all FPS games on consoles pale in comparison to the PC, you cannot beat the mouse and keyboard in FPS or RTS. PC Gamer did a test where they played Halo against an X-Box magazine (can't remember the name, but they work in the same building), PC Gamer used mouse and keyboard while the X-Box magazine used x-box controllers. PC Gamer destroyed them.
true :thumb:

But all fighting games, sports, racing games, third person games etc on consoles rock :thumb:
 

Diaz

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#52
masta247 said:
lol i don't agree with it. Graphics is one of the most important things in games.
He gave you examples of how games that are fun as opposed to games that just look nice get better reviews and/or sell more and you still insist graphics are the most important thing.

That being said, I think all this "the system I like is better than the system you like" fighting is gay, just play what you like and don't fight over which is better.
 
#53
Glockmatic said:
all FPS games on consoles pale in comparison to the PC, you cannot beat the mouse and keyboard in FPS or RTS. PC Gamer did a test where they played Halo against an X-Box magazine (can't remember the name, but they work in the same building), PC Gamer used mouse and keyboard while the X-Box magazine used x-box controllers. PC Gamer destroyed them.
PC gaming is mostly for hardcore gamers compared to the Xbox. if you paired up people who've never played PC Halo or Xbox Halo and see who won then we could really see.

I personally like controllers for FPS.
 

Flipmo

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#54
I agree, PC gaming is the ultimate experience, especially when it comes to FPS. Well to me it is. Most gaming I do is on computer, anything else would be sports games on PS2.. else from that, was mostly my Genesis. lol
 

masta247

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#55
Diaz said:
He gave you examples of how games that are fun as opposed to games that just look nice get better reviews and/or sell more and you still insist graphics are the most important thing.

That being said, I think all this "the system I like is better than the system you like" fighting is gay, just play what you like and don't fight over which is better.
I said it's all about preferences. I haven't said that graphic is most important but it is really important. Also if it comes to gameplay, I still prefer Ps games because Nintendo ones are boring and stupid to me.
 

masta247

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#56
FlipMo said:
I agree, PC gaming is the ultimate experience, especially when it comes to FPS. Well to me it is. Most gaming I do is on computer, anything else would be sports games on PS2.. else from that, was mostly my Genesis. lol
Yes, if it comes to single player. Multiplayer fps on consloles rule :thumb:
 

Glockmatic

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#57
masta247 said:
Yes, if it comes to single player. Multiplayer fps on consloles rule :thumb:
have you never played Battlefield 1942/2/2142? Quake? Counterstrike? Half Life? Mechwarrior? Warcraft? Starcraft? Company of Heroes? Tribes? While consoles are having fun with 20 man games the PC game market have games up to 124 players (thats just for FPS, World of Warcraft can have 2000+ for one server while EVE Online has up to 30,000 in 1 server). PC FPS games also have a longer life-span since its becoming easier and easier to mod them.
 

masta247

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#58
Glockmatic said:
have you never played Battlefield 1942/2/2142? Quake? Counterstrike? Half Life? Mechwarrior? Warcraft? Starcraft? Company of Heroes? Tribes? While consoles are having fun with 20 man games the PC game market have games up to 124 players (thats just for FPS, World of Warcraft can have 2000+ for one server while EVE Online has up to 30,000 in 1 server). PC FPS games also have a longer life-span since its becoming easier and easier to mod them.
I preffer sitting with my friends chilling and kicking theyre asses on one console :thumb: Playing over net aint the same
 

masta247

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#60
Glockmatic said:
A tv with 4 split screens ain't the same for me :)
yeah it's a bit stupid but i like the vibe of that kind of games :thumb: there's always fun. Much better that playing over net
 

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