Technology PS3 vs. Wii

#21
PS3 is gonna own. I'll def. look at Wii tho but i hate that stupid controller. So gay. I hope they come out with an option for serious gamers.
 

Rukas

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#22
The Wii is fucking great, I cant wait to play it. Anyone that cant see the fun side of the Wii must suffer from a real poor social life.

Example:

You and your friends are drinking in someones living room before heading out to the clubs and you all decide to play some games. Do you:

a) want to play the same old boring game, albiet it looks slightly better but you cant tell through your beer goggles anyway, or;

b) want to play a new type of game where you can drunkenly throw your arms around, or test your aiming skills.

There is a reason why Buck Hunter is the best arcade game ever found in a bar/club, and there is a reason the Wii will rock my world, and that reason is alcohol.
 
#23
Glockmatic said:
ps3, xbox360 and wii are all "toys". If you buy a next-gen system for anything other than video games you're a sucker.
not really. if i didn't have my original xbox, I wouldn't have a DVD player.

That and the Xbox 360 streams shit from my media center laptop which is pretty dope to watch music videos / downloaded movies on my TV.
 

masta247

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#25
lmao alright I see everybody got they're point on how best they're preffered console is. I guess it's all about personal prefferation. People who now defend Wii like that probably planned to buy it before for some reason. Ok maybe really Wii is worth buying as you get a cheap console that will play some fun titles letting you play from time to time. I guess it depends on what you want you're console for. I red really a lot about the new gen consoles. I've done my own research and decided to buy PS3. Of course not the premium version but the basic one and not just when it'll come out. I'll wait like half a year untill the price will drop. Personally i couldn't picture not having for example GTA4 or new metal gear on console because playing on PC sucks for me. Plus having PS3 you don't have to worry about upgrading you're hardware for few good years. Also most of PC games comes out on PS. Always Ps got the most titles.

If it comes to PS3 technically i totally can't agree that it's nothing compared to PC's. It's construction and chipsets used are really great. 3.2ghz Cell processor with 8 cores will do it's job. Especially when each core is responsible for something different for ex. 1 core is used for game physics only. Plus games are written especially for that console so they don't need that much power as PC. Ps2 that is really weak today and was when it came out still handles some of the new titles. It means that PS3 is really good for the future. WII IBM processor with ATI graphics won't handle any advanced games soon. Or maybe will but with worse graphics, resolutions, fps etc.
But as always. Also this time you get what you pay for.

That's my personal opinion on the situation.


P.S. God bless Sony that they kept the old pad. It's perfect so why change it?
 
#26
masta247 said:
lmao alright I see everybody got they're point on how best they're preffered console is. I guess it's all about personal prefferation. People who now defend Wii like that probably planned to buy it before for some reason. Ok maybe really Wii is worth buying as you get a cheap console that will play some fun titles letting you play from time to time. I guess it depends on what you want you're console for. I red really a lot about the new gen consoles. I've done my own research and decided to buy PS3. Of course not the premium version but the basic one and not just when it'll come out. I'll wait like half a year untill the price will drop. Personally i couldn't picture not having for example GTA4 or new metal gear on console because playing on PC sucks for me. Plus having PS3 you don't have to worry about upgrading you're hardware for few good years. Also most of PC games comes out on PS. Always Ps got the most titles.

If it comes to PS3 technically i totally can't agree that it's nothing compared to PC's. It's construction and chipsets used are really great. 3.2ghz Cell processor with 8 cores will do it's job. Especially when each core is responsible for something different for ex. 1 core is used for game physics only. Plus games are written especially for that console so they don't need that much power as PC. Ps2 that is really weak today and was when it came out still handles some of the new titles. It means that PS3 is really good for the future. WII IBM processor with ATI graphics won't handle any advanced games soon. Or maybe will but with worse graphics, resolutions, fps etc.
But as always. Also this time you get what you pay for.

That's my personal opinion on the situation.


P.S. God bless Sony that they kept the old pad. It's perfect so why change it?
Yes, you're right. You get what you pay for...but do you really need all that? With Blu-Ray already going down the drain, and only 12% of the U.S. has an HDTV....the PS3 only has reasons NOT to buy the console.

And yeah, Gran Turismo is awesome fun. But are you willing to pay $00-$900 for the game? When you buy the game it comes with NO cars and NO tracks. And you don't win cars anymore. You buy them. With real money. And when you buy the car, you need somewhere to drive right? Gotta pay for that too. The grand total is somewhere in the range of $900-$1,000. Not worth it in my opinion. Dont let them fool you.

Yes, PS3 is cool for the future....but how long into the future? Sony went too far with this. Not many people can afford to pay $600 for a standard, regular console with pretty visuals. It's a shame really. I loved the PS1 and PS2....but why is Sony fucking up now? Did you see the link I posted before? Even Gamestop says the PS3 isn't going anywhere. They're all for the Wii. There's a reason, man. It's an awesome system, and that is the real system that is setting the standards...which is why Microsoft is getting nervous, praising Nintendo for their innovation, and the reason why Sony tried to bite off Nintendo for about 8 years now.
 
#27
PELLA said:
PS3 is gonna own. I'll def. look at Wii tho but i hate that stupid controller. So gay. I hope they come out with an option for serious gamers.

The controller was made with serious gamers in mind. This is exactly what we need. Don't you see? The precision, the ease, the freedom. Not being locked and limited to sticks and buttons. It's a dream come true for gamers, which is why so many people are praising it.
 

masta247

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#28
Personally i prefer classic PS controler. It's perfect for me. So i see it's really all about personal preferences.
 

Rukas

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#30
^^^
You took that out of context. It doesnt mean it has the same spec hardware, it just means it is set up the same and has the same programing language thus it can be programmed for in a similar fashion.

Its like people used to say that the Xbox was basically a PC, it didnt perform as such in the real world, but theoretically it was set up in a similar fashion.

Quoting your same source:

"The Wii has better capabilities than the GC"
 
#32
bigmack said:
This is coming directly from Nintendo

That is the exact same reason why developers are moving from PS3 to Wii. It's cheaper to develop for, the games will sell for less, more graphical power than GC, and much much more gameplay possibilities. And I also agree with Rukas. You took it way out of context. Yes, the programming and the necessities of creating a game are almost just like the GC....so developers get a head start on the Wii. Why make everything so difficult? Huh Sony???
 

Flipmo

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#33
I can see why people enjoy the Wii. Rukas said it best, it's a great social console. Drunk + Wii = great fun and laughter, but honestly, how often is one drunk with friends + everyone heads to your home to play it. I'd rather be around ppl and jump around like a mule, then alone. I'm more of a Sony guy, and most probably for the sport games. Hell, maybe I just hate Nintendo cause Sega has always been my #1 console. lol.

Sega Genesis, I love you soooooooooo..
 

masta247

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#34
Alright.. First of all look what you want to buy: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/video_player/popup.php?sid=6149691&pid=933010
that doesnt bring nothing new than some new kids play.

then compare it to that: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/video_player/popup.php?sid=6149525&pid=

see a difference?
Technology is moving towards most realistic gameplay. I would prefer to play Nintendo DS than Wii as i don't see a big difference.
Wii doesnt bring any possibilieties for game designers. PS3 doesn't limit them at all. Everything will work on it.

Oh by the way.. Ps3 standard version is going to cost 499$. That gives <400 after 6-9 months. Think about buying wii again. I'm trying to convince you as buying wii is a waste of money in my opinion. Buy it only if u want a cheap console, liked gamecube or Mario as 95% of games now and about 70% in the future will be produced by nintendo and it's companies.
 
#35
FlipMo said:
I can see why people enjoy the Wii. Rukas said it best, it's a great social console. Drunk + Wii = great fun and laughter, but honestly, how often is one drunk with friends + everyone heads to your home to play it. I'd rather be around ppl and jump around like a mule, then alone. I'm more of a Sony guy, and most probably for the sport games. Hell, maybe I just hate Nintendo cause Sega has always been my #1 console. lol.

Sega Genesis, I love you soooooooooo..
lol, yeah Sega was awesome. They're making killer games now though, that's for sure.

Well, I agree and don't agree about the whole social thing. PS3 can be a social console too. So can the 360. The Wii too...but I wouldn't just call it that and that's it. The controller is so sensitive that you don't need to wave your hands in the air or act stupid. Sure, it will be fun playing WarioWare, Mario Party, Super Monkey Ball, and Mario Kart with your friends...but playing Zelda (Best franchise ever!!!), Metroid, Super Mario, Red Steel, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest will be awesome for players who prefer to play individually. By the way FlipMo...do you like Madden? I hear Madden 07 for 360,etc. wasn't all that great. BUT...guess what? Reviewers from magazines, websites, and amatuer testers have claimed it to be the top version of the game. Why? Extra features and more gameplay value. Check this out, man. So far the Wii version of Madden is the best...and it hasn't even been released yet. It's gonna be a sick game.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/736/736278p1.html

"But almost shockingly, the Wii-mote controls not only operate perfectly, but they feel very natural and are incredibly easy to pick up. Indeed, were we to introduce someone who has never played football videogames before to both the Wii and Xbox 360 versions of Madden, we're confident they'd find the Nintendo iteration much more accessible right off the bat." - IGN.COM
 
#36
masta247 said:
Alright.. First of all look what you want to buy: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/video_player/popup.php?sid=6149691&pid=933010
that doesnt bring nothing new than some new kids play.

then compare it to that: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/video_player/popup.php?sid=6149525&pid=

see a difference?
Technology is moving towards most realistic gameplay. I would prefer to play Nintendo DS than Wii as i don't see a big difference.
Wii doesnt bring any possibilieties for game designers. PS3 doesn't limit them at all. Everything will work on it.

Oh by the way.. Ps3 standard version is going to cost 499$. That gives <400 after 6-9 months. Think about buying wii again. I'm trying to convince you as buying wii is a waste of money in my opinion. Buy it only if u want a cheap console, liked gamecube or Mario as 95% of games now and about 70% in the future will be produced by nintendo and it's companies.
You just said it yourself! Technology is moving towards realistic GAMEPLAY! Not graphics. This generation is about playing the games...not the false HD, and graphics claims Sony always tries to pull.

I see a difference. Innovation, and no innovation. GameStop is right when they say the PS3 has nothing going for it. They are focusing on promoting the Wii. Why? It's virtually limitless. And YES, the PS3 does limit game makers because it can't do what the Wii can! Sure, the PS3 can SHOW us nice visuals. But does that really make the games better? NO! Mario Hoops 3 on 3 has the best visuals the DS has ever seen! What ratings did it get? mediocre/bad! Why? Because the gameplay sucked! On the other hand, Mega Man ZX got good ratings! The visuals were 2D like on the GBA. Why did it get good ratings? Because it was fun! Graphics don't upgrade games! Gameplay does!
 

masta247

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#37
i dont know i havent tried that controller but it looks gay to me.
Ps have perfect controller to me. Also i still prefer GTA over mario, killzone 2 over super monkey ball, Gran turismo over mario kart metal gear solid, over some other nintendo titles etc. Alright i see you're point. If you really like that cartoon type games its okay. I guess im just too.. serious. I seek reality in video games. So again it's about preferences.
 
#38
masta247 said:
i dont know i havent tried that controller but it looks gay to me.
Ps have perfect controller to me. Also i still prefer GTA over mario, killzone 2 over super monkey ball, Gran turismo over mario kart metal gear solid, over some other nintendo titles etc. Alright i see you're point. If you really like that cartoon type games its okay. I guess im just too.. serious. I seek reality in video games. So again it's about preferences.
It is about preferences...but I'm just separating fact from fiction. Try out the controller when they have the kiosks in stores. I'm sure you won't be disappointed since no one else has been so far.

Get ready, because according to Rockstar and Nintendo...they are discussing getting GTA on the Wii.

I'm also looking at it from a general point of view. You know G4tv? It's a gaming/technology channel. For the 2005 best racing game it was Gran Turismo 4 VS. Mario Kart DS. What won? Mario Kart. It's all about the fun factor IMO. Nothing to do with realistic visuals. Also...what's more real than actually doing the actions yourself? What's more real....pressing A to make Link (from Zelda) stab an enemy, or moving your hand forward to make him thrust his sword into the enemy? If you're looking for realism and you're going to buttons for it...then you're looking in the wrong place. But again...preferences, I suppose.
 

masta247

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#39
MaKaVeLi2K3 said:
You just said it yourself! Technology is moving towards realistic GAMEPLAY! Not graphics. This generation is about playing the games...not the false HD, and graphics claims Sony always tries to pull.

I see a difference. Innovation, and no innovation. GameStop is right when they say the PS3 has nothing going for it. They are focusing on promoting the Wii. Why? It's virtually limitless. And YES, the PS3 does limit game makers because it can't do what the Wii can! Sure, the PS3 can SHOW us nice visuals. But does that really make the games better? NO! Mario Hoops 3 on 3 has the best visuals the DS has ever seen! What ratings did it get? mediocre/bad! Why? Because the gameplay sucked! On the other hand, Mega Man ZX got good ratings! The visuals were 2D like on the GBA. Why did it get good ratings? Because it was fun! Graphics don't upgrade games! Gameplay does!

lol i don't agree with it. Graphics is one of the most important things in games. Thats why developers are going towards creating game most excellent graphically. Wii will give you a huge limit. It's hardware won't let developers to create anything more advanced than games that were already released or are to be released soon. Ps3 with Blu-ray, great CPU and GPU won't limit developers at all. They may create practically a photorealistic game. And the gameplay will also depend on developers. There is no thing that Wii can do that PS3 can't except having license on nintendo games and to be honest i never liked simple one.

P.S. The same story was with n64 and PS.. Gamecube and PS2/Xbox. Nintendo products were cheaper and weaker. Nearly nobody bought em. Everybody bought Sony's products. Because they were simply better. Now it's the same story but PS3 now give much more possibilieties than Wii.
 
#40
masta247 said:
Technology is moving towards most realistic gameplay. I would prefer to play Nintendo DS than Wii as i don't see a big difference.
The Nintendo DS is a handheld console with a touch screen.
The Nintendo Wii is a videogame console with a motion-sensing controller.

Hopefully that clears it up fro you.

Wii doesnt bring any possibilieties for game designers. PS3 doesn't limit them at all. Everything will work on it.
Wii doesn't bring any possibilities? It's a completely new way of playing games, it lets developers do things they can't do on any other console.

masta247 said:
lmao alright I see everybody got they're point on how best they're preffered console is. I guess it's all about personal prefferation.
'Prefferation' isn't a word. You mean 'preference'.

I guess it depends on what you want you're console for.
And I want a console to play games on. Wii FTW.

I red really a lot about the new gen consoles. I've done my own research and decided to buy PS3. Of course not the premium version but the basic one and not just when it'll come out. I'll wait like half a year untill the price will drop. Personally i couldn't picture not having for example GTA4 or new metal gear on console because playing on PC sucks for me. Plus having PS3 you don't have to worry about upgrading you're hardware for few good years. Also most of PC games comes out on PS. Always Ps got the most titles.
I can't picture not having GTA4 either, which is why I'll wait for it to come out and (probably) buy an XBox360.

As for the PS3 having the most titles, I wouldn't bank on it. A lot of developers are shifting away from Sony. Microsoft have snapped up some games as exclusives that previously would have been multi-console, and developers like Nintendo's new controller and the new options it presents to them.

If it comes to PS3 technically i totally can't agree that it's nothing compared to PC's. It's construction and chipsets used are really great. 3.2ghz Cell processor with 8 cores will do it's job. Especially when each core is responsible for something different for ex. 1 core is used for game physics only. Plus games are written especially for that console so they don't need that much power as PC. Ps2 that is really weak today and was when it came out still handles some of the new titles. It means that PS3 is really good for the future. WII IBM processor with ATI graphics won't handle any advanced games soon. Or maybe will but with worse graphics, resolutions, fps etc.
But as always. Also this time you get what you pay for.
You seem to think that "advanced = better graphics". You can only improve the graphics so much before people stop caring.

I'd much rather play Madden on the Wii, even if the graphics are worse than the other versions, because it's a different way of playing the game. It looks a lot more fun, it's a lot more involving. That will be the case for a lot of people.

P.S. God bless Sony that they kept the old pad. It's perfect so why change it?
No, the N64 controller was perfect.
 

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