Go Bush

#62
how hizzle? said:
the thing is that she doesn't even know that she is in this situation...
but your argument can go both ways...to me the only thing it does, is that it wastes a lot of money to your gouvernement...I am not being ignorant here...It's just sarcasm.... she will never recover...it's too late...i think that the BIG maximum to recover from something like this is 5 years(i believe, because i read about this case a couple of years ago in some exam i had in high school) after that, you forget everything you learned before...it's something like when you forget a language....you can learn it again....but she can't because her cortex isn't functioning anymore
money doesn't matter, but if the woman has the sligtest chance of a recovery, then let her live. If she is totally brain dead and doesn't respond to or understand her surroundings then her life has no meaning.
 

AmerikazMost

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#63
Washington v. Glucksberg (1997)

“The right to autonomy clashes with the right to life in our constitutional system… Death is the extinguishment of rights, not the triumph of one right over another.”

You actually don't have the right to die in the United States.



Though if it was my wife, I'd probably let her go..
 

hizzle?

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#64
tupacmansion said:
money doesn't matter, but if the woman has the sligtest chance of a recovery, then let her live. If she is totally brain dead and doesn't respond to or understand her surroundings then her life has no meaning.
hence i was being sarcastic....but with 100 000$ per year...and for 15 years...I'll say 10 because after 5 there is no more chances for her to live...

so 100 000$ per year for 10 years....that's 1 000 000$ for a woman who has a 0,000001% of chances to get back like she did...


why don't you give that 1 000 000$ to poor people America...not even Africa, AMERICA to save their lives who have 50% chances to be good once again
 
#65
how hizzle? said:
hence i was being sarcastic....but with 100 000$ per year...and for 15 years...I'll say 10 because after 5 there is no more chances for her to live...

so 100 000$ per year for 10 years....that's 1 000 000$ for a woman who has a 0,000001% of chances to get back like she did...


why don't you give that 1 000 000$ to poor people America...not even Africa, AMERICA to save their lives who have 50% chances to be good once again
True, the money could be better used
 
#66
Alot of y'all have good points.
This case just sickens me because all of this should have been done 15 years ago when she was first put in this state. Maybe then she could have been helped. Maybe then she could have made some kind of recovery. I just don't really know what to think of all this because you have all these doctors and the ones that are testifying on her parents side are saying she still has brain activity and she still responds to certain things and then the doctors that are on her husbands side are saying she's brain dead and she's unresponsive, etc. How in the hell can doctors of the same field of expertise say completely different things? I don't get it.
Then you've got her husband and his friends or whatever saying she told them that she wouldn't wanna live like that. But yet her family is saying she wouldn't want to die. Her friends and co-workers saying her husband mistreated her and was extremely mean to her. Who are you supposed to believe? How can they go with what her husband says and completely disregard what her family is saying? This is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I really don't know how they should treat this case now because doctors are now saying that her cerebrum is gone, it's been replaced by spinal fluid now. So what does that mean? I guess basically it means she'll never recover from the state she is in now which kind of makes me wonder if she should be kept alive. At first I thought yes but now, I'm not so sure. What I really think is that they should take that money from her husband and get her therapy and see what that does. I mean, it's not like it'd be taking from our healthcare funds, it'd only be taking from him. And that money was supposed to be used for her anyways so what difference would it make if they took it from him? Who are they hurting trying to rehabilitate her? If it doesn't work, then it wasn't meant for her to live. If it does, then good for her. But like I said before, all this should have been done 15 years ago and this wouldn't be an issue now, at the last minute.
 

hizzle?

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#67
This case just sickens me because all of this should have been done 15 years ago when she was first put in this state.
i agree...but we learn from mistakes...some of them are cruel...if I was a coward, i'd say "life is a bitch, move on"

thats a dumb way to see the situation...i'd rather say "here we all learned something, let's study the case to be sure not to do the same mistake again, never move on, but move with it"
 
#68
how hizzle? said:
i agree...but we learn from mistakes...some of them are cruel...if I was a coward, i'd say "life is a bitch, move on"

thats a dumb way to see the situation...i'd rather say "here we all learned something, let's study the case to be sure not to do the same mistake again, never move on, but move with it"
True, let's hope we learn from this one.
 
#70
groobz said:
haha Bush is trying to save a life and pacboard comes in dissing. Sad thing is, if Bush wanted to end this brain dead woman’s life, the same people would still come in here abusing his decision :D

Bush signed a bill in texas in 99 or so i think that went against what he is doing now......... dudes the biggest fuckin hypocrite i have ever seen.


and as for the whole situation, it all boils down to the family having false hope. If they do get her back on the feeding tube, which has been denied where is the point in her living when she doesnt know what she is doing, cant talk with loved ones cant get her thoughts and feelings across to the people she loves.

Personally id rather have my life ended than living in such a state.

and im sure most people would choose to go rather than living the rest of ur life basically as in inanimate object or sorts.
 
#71
they should let her live....

what u mean i dont have arguments? we're talking about the life of a human being... we can't judge about wether someone has to die or not -

isn't being alive the most important thing on earth..
 
#72
lets be realistic shes been in outer-space for 15 years and nothing has changed. If she cant eat on her own, dont force her to live. Frankly it pisses me off this case gets so much special treatment when there are so many more important issues going on in within the United States right now. All this is, is a case of 2 parents who cant learn to "let go" and are draining our governmental resources for a hopeless cause.
 
#73
Frankly it pisses me off this case gets so much special treatment when there are so many more important issues going on in within the United States right now.
It's more about establishing a judicial precedent for cases like this.
 

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