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Glockmatic

Well-Known Member
#21
VENOMOUS said:
What the fuck is wrong with you people she really fucked up but she is not brain dead.She can still react to pain and suffering.How would you like if you starved and dehydrated to death.Thats fucking toture.Of course she not the same person she once was,but she is still a fucking human being and deserves to be treated as such.
from what i've seen/heard, she only reacts to very few things, most portions of her brain are dead (cerebral cortex), and her reactions of things are from her damaged brain stem, which allows her to breath, sleep, her nervous system and reflexes (which people believe is her being non-vegetative). But those reflexes are instinctive. If i was a vegetable i would go in any way, why would i care? My brain is dead, i wouldn't feel pain, and staying like that for 14 years is hell itself.
 

S. Fourteen

Well-Known Member
#22
how hizzle? said:
she's dead, you just said it...she doesn't even know that she's alive man...it's just torture for her body...but then again she doesn't feel nothing...
Her heart is beating and she is warm but her brain is dead, I know she isn't thinking "I want to keep living", she can't think... but nobody knows what she would have wanted in this situation. I could easily say "I want them to pull the plug if that was me" but I am not her.

ken said:
^come on :rolleyes:

btw, the woman told her husband that if it came that she was in a state like a vegetable then she would like to have the plug pulled on her
I didn't hear about this...
 
#23
saltynuts said:
Her parents think she's still alive.....

Everyone should make a will and have your choice in writing, mine would say "Pull it already!"
True that is what it all comes down to! we each must make that decision for ourselfs! and mine would be same as yours! PULL The Plug!

shit don't even put the plug in the first place!
 
#24
ken said:
^come on :rolleyes:

btw, the woman told her husband that if it came that she was in a state like a vegetable then she would like to have the plug pulled on her

my first question...

y would she just state this randomly to her husband?

my second question....

can anyone vouch this BESIDES her husband?
 
#25
im presuming that she detiriorated into this state after the inital injury/ illness/ accident

second answer: i don't think we have the full facts in this thread.


*edit* yeah and what haunted said below me, it is actually pretty common.
 
#29
This is too political and should not be televised in the media imo. Even at that what do you think Bush can do no. Nothing my friends, the lady is suffering and it's totally normal that her husband wants her to R.I.P. but unfortunately the media is getting into people's lives these days.

Peace
 
#30
karma is a bitch so i hope all these fucking fools thinking that just because your breathing youre "living" get slammed by a mac track, lay paralyzed, with the mind of a baby and are kept alive for the remainer of their life on a manmade machine, when they should have died in the first place.
 
#31
ken said:
im presuming that she detiriorated into this state after the inital injury/ illness/ accident

second answer: i don't think we have the full facts in this thread.


*edit* yeah and what haunted said below me, it is actually pretty common.
nah she collapsed from an unknown ailment which they think was some sort of definciency in her body chemicals or some shit..she was not breathing for 5minutes, hence her brain was all but destroyed when doctors "brought her back" to life. a kid in my highschool was destoyed when a school bus slammed into a car his friend was driving and landed into him. Just because the kid's eyes moved around wildly as he lay dying doesnt mean he was ALIVE. fuckin sickos....who doesnt pull a plug on a human who is no longer alive, but is rather responding the way a newborn does in its most primitive form. Think back to when you were ejected from the womb....do you have memories? nah didnt think so. Its people being selfish because they cant let go.
 
#32
CoolWaterz said:
lol where the hell are u getting your info from? this woman now functions on the level of an 11month old baby the exact same way she has been since the 90's when she was left permanently brain damaged. She will never recover, and she now has to live the rest of her life being kept "artifically" alive by a manmade device...if left to her own devices she will die. Whose intervening with Gd's plan here now...

It has already been said from therapists that if she had received proper treatment and therapy that she could have learned to swallow again, thus feeding herself, and that she could learn to talk again. Maybe she is now too far gone to recover but if she would have been treated when she should have been, she could have recovered. Go to her website and see for yourself. There is a timeline there showing when and what happened in the last 15 years since her collapse. Her husband was awarded a million and some odd dollar lawsuit of which the money was supposed to go to her rehabilitation. And how much of that money did he use to get her treatment? ZERO None, not one single dollar did he use to treat her. And if he is removed as her guardian, he loses that money because it was awarded to him to treat her, and to treat her only. But did he do that, NO, that money is probably being spent for him and his new wife and kids to live like kings and queens.
And to whoever said she doesn't respond to anything, yes she does. She responds to her parents every single time they come and visit her. I've seen the videos, she smiles and responds to them every time.
Before you come at me like I don't know what I'm talking about, you should visit her website and see what's really going on, cause I have.
 
#33
Luv4Pac4Ever said:
It has already been said from therapists that if she had received proper treatment and therapy that she could have learned to swallow again, thus feeding herself, and that she could learn to talk again. Maybe she is now too far gone to recover but if she would have been treated when she should have been, she could have recovered. Go to her website and see for yourself. There is a timeline there showing when and what happened in the last 15 years since her collapse. Her husband was awarded a million and some odd dollar lawsuit of which the money was supposed to go to her rehabilitation. And how much of that money did he use to get her treatment? ZERO None, not one single dollar did he use to treat her. And if he is removed as her guardian, he loses that money because it was awarded to him to treat her, and to treat her only. But did he do that, NO, that money is probably being spent for him and his new wife and kids to live like kings and queens.
And to whoever said she doesn't respond to anything, yes she does. She responds to her parents every single time they come and visit her. I've seen the videos, she smiles and responds to them every time.
Before you come at me like I don't know what I'm talking about, you should visit her website and see what's really going on, cause I have.
haha and im sure she designed her own web page huh.
 
#34
Oh and Cool Waterz, she is not on any kind of life support machines other than a gastric feeding tube that provides her body with nurishment. Know what you're talking about before you blow off shit that really isn't the case.
 
#36
Luv4Pac4Ever said:
Oh and Cool Waterz, she is not on any kind of life support machines other than a gastric feeding tube that provides her body with nurishment. Know what you're talking about before you blow off shit that really isn't the case.
What are you talking about.. who said shes on life support. I know exactly what shes on , its stuck inside her belly button relax there.
 
#37
Luv4Pac4Ever said:
No you idiot, her parents did.

www.terrisfight.org moron
Yea no shit moron, and their agenda is to distort the truth because this lady has permanent brain damage. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. she will never be able to do shit ever again but act on the most primitive level a human being can. When my grandfather was in this position after his kidneys failed him and he had not awoken for days, the doctors still told my mother "well if he ever does come through again, theres no telling if there was brain damage". You live in a fucking bubble. Doctors always give the .00001 percent chance that the person can stun everyone and it would be a miracle. But after a decade, it aint happening in this womans case. LET HER GO.
 
#38
CoolWaterz said:
Yea no shit moron, and their agenda is to distort the truth because this lady has permanent brain damage. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. she will never be able to do shit ever again but act on the most primitive level a human being can. When my grandfather was in this position after his kidneys failed him and he had not awoken for days, the doctors still told my mother "well if he ever does come through again, theres no telling if there was brain damage". You live in a fucking bubble. Doctors always give the .00001 percent chance that the person can stun everyone and it would be a miracle. But after a decade, it aint happening in this womans case. LET HER GO.

Noone's saying that she can recover now. By all likelyhood, she's too far gone to recover now. But still yet, who knows what she could do if given the chance. Her husband has never given her the chance. But yet he claims he loves her. If he did, don't you think that he'd rather see her parapalegic than dead? Cause that's probably all she would have been had she been given rehabilitation like he was supposed to give her. Her feeding tube has been removed a few times before and she hung on everytime. Once for 6 days. To me that doesn't sound like someone that wants to die. That's the will to live IMO. Could you survive 6 days without any food, water or any other kind of nurishment? If you wanted to live, yes you could. If you had no will to live, then probably, no you wouldn't. Noone can know what's going on inside this woman's head but if I had to guess, I'd say she wants to live given the fact that she pulled through after 6 days without nurishment. To me that's a miracle and that's sheer willpower, the willpower to live.
At any rate, it's just an opinion. My opinion. You don't have to agree with it.
Have a nice day. :)
 
#39
you fuckin do-gooders think you know-it-all really piss me off. Go take her place, ill be glad to suffocate you for 5 minutes straight and let the doctors bring you back to life as a vegetable. Until your willing to do that, shut the fuck up you hypocrits.
 
#40
Luv4Pac4Ever said:
Noone's saying that she can recover now. By all likelyhood, she's too far gone to recover now. But still yet, who knows what she could do if given the chance. Her husband has never given her the chance. But yet he claims he loves her. If he did, don't you think that he'd rather see her parapalegic than dead? Cause that's probably all she would have been had she been given rehabilitation like he was supposed to give her. Her feeding tube has been removed a few times before and she hung on everytime. Once for 6 days. To me that doesn't sound like someone that wants to die. That's the will to live IMO. Could you survive 6 days without any food, water or any other kind of nurishment? If you wanted to live, yes you could. If you had no will to live, then probably, no you wouldn't. Noone can know what's going on inside this woman's head but if I had to guess, I'd say she wants to live given the fact that she pulled through after 6 days without nurishment. To me that's a miracle and that's sheer willpower, the willpower to live.
At any rate, it's just an opinion. My opinion. You don't have to agree with it.
Have a nice day. :)
Hung on everytime, what are you talking about...you have no idea what your even saying....they removed the food tube and she did exactly what they expected given the time frame. When the feeding tube is removed you have 7-14 days to live. this is what i hate about you people "the triumph of the spirit " bullshit...not its not idiot, its just the natural process of death. GEt a clue man. seriously. you remind of those 15 year olds when i went to high school who chanted "hes gonna make it" because the kid after being slammed by a bus, his eyes were making instinctual reflexes that signified nothing.
 

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