[CDNS] Goverment falls, who will you vote for?
- Thread starter Glockmatic
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i wont have 18 by the time to vote. but really i dont trust ndp or the conservatives, liberals fucked us badly and bloc quebecois are only aiming for separation.
and i certainly dont want quebec to separate. i love my province, but i love my country. i'm proudly canadian and proudly quebecer. and i believe quebec would fall if they separate. i think its good to keep the french language and protect it by any mean cuz this is part of our cultural heritage, but i dont think that we need to separate for this.
so this being said, even if i could vote, i would so not know what to vote for.
and i certainly dont want quebec to separate. i love my province, but i love my country. i'm proudly canadian and proudly quebecer. and i believe quebec would fall if they separate. i think its good to keep the french language and protect it by any mean cuz this is part of our cultural heritage, but i dont think that we need to separate for this.
so this being said, even if i could vote, i would so not know what to vote for.
i actually know a lot about the separation issue... i just wrote a paper on it for my geography class... that's why i've been making condescending comments towards quebec these past weeks
but yeah, they should've known because.. 1) Not only am I not a Quebecer, I'm not even a French Canadian, and not only am I not a French Canadian, I'm neither French nor Canadian.. and 2) it WAS AmerikazMost who posted it
but yeah, they should've known because.. 1) Not only am I not a Quebecer, I'm not even a French Canadian, and not only am I not a French Canadian, I'm neither French nor Canadian.. and 2) it WAS AmerikazMost who posted it
First Glockomatic you're right but not exactly. You don't need the half the votes to be a majority government. Just look at Chretien's government of 1993, they won with 36 percent of the votes and had 177 seats in Parliament.
As far as corruption on part of the Liberals PELLA, it's not Martin's fault or Chrétien it was actually a clique of about 10 dudes that took about 0.0003 percent of the budget when Martin was Finance Minister. So it's really hard to get at numbers when the percentage is low even though it's millions when you have billions of dollars floating around. BTW these guys all got fired the Liberals managed to reshuffle their cabinet and clean up the mess.
Ok so now PELLA I'm going to make it clear to you. The NDP are Social Democrats I repeat Social Democrats not communists. BTW Pearson was the one who implemented the medicare with the support of the NDP. If it wasn't for them we would be paying like our neighbors down south.
As for you Valeoz, the NDP would be the best choice for the black community as these dudes and their leader Jack Layton promotes equality and justice among everyone. Their ideology consists of promoting equality among all the classes,thus trying their best to eliminate poverty, to have an ecological environment, equality even among people with a different sexual orientation. They also want minorities to be able to preserve and promote their own culture, which the Liberals also do. There are also other advantages the NDP offers but I won't list them all. Anyways we can say that this party is the most "just" out of all of those. BTW I'm voting again for them even though the Liberals are prolly going to win it.
Also if any of you guys have questions about Can. Politics just ask I'm doing my B.A. in Poli. Science and I just wrapped up a Can. Pol. class if any of you are wondering why I'm typing all of this.
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As far as corruption on part of the Liberals PELLA, it's not Martin's fault or Chrétien it was actually a clique of about 10 dudes that took about 0.0003 percent of the budget when Martin was Finance Minister. So it's really hard to get at numbers when the percentage is low even though it's millions when you have billions of dollars floating around. BTW these guys all got fired the Liberals managed to reshuffle their cabinet and clean up the mess.
Ok so now PELLA I'm going to make it clear to you. The NDP are Social Democrats I repeat Social Democrats not communists. BTW Pearson was the one who implemented the medicare with the support of the NDP. If it wasn't for them we would be paying like our neighbors down south.
As for you Valeoz, the NDP would be the best choice for the black community as these dudes and their leader Jack Layton promotes equality and justice among everyone. Their ideology consists of promoting equality among all the classes,thus trying their best to eliminate poverty, to have an ecological environment, equality even among people with a different sexual orientation. They also want minorities to be able to preserve and promote their own culture, which the Liberals also do. There are also other advantages the NDP offers but I won't list them all. Anyways we can say that this party is the most "just" out of all of those. BTW I'm voting again for them even though the Liberals are prolly going to win it.
Also if any of you guys have questions about Can. Politics just ask I'm doing my B.A. in Poli. Science and I just wrapped up a Can. Pol. class if any of you are wondering why I'm typing all of this.
Peace
Come on now, are you saying that Chretien had nothing to do with the sponsorship scandal? It was his idea according to most of the people who testified. I don't know for sure about Martin, but it seems unlikely that anyone would take the chance of getting caught doing this (even if the percentage number is 0.0003%), so he was probably in on it as well.
Yeah you're right Glockomatic I was thinking about something else. Devious 187, I'm not saying that they weren't in on it. I'm just telling you that when you're a Finance Minister you just manage the flow of capital but can't control everything you see. As far as Chretien on it, only God knows I can't tell you because I wasn't there you know. But for the scoop of the 10 dudes who got fired I got the story from a friend who's about to work for the Feds in Pettigrew's riding and he talked with him, Coderre and some other guys.
So there you go, I also didn't know that until a week ago, before that I was dissing the Liberals since the scandal even though I was always for them until I became an "informed voter" and came to realize that the NDP's agenda is pretty interesting and might bring the Canadian system to a similar state like in Sweden.
If any of you guys wonder what a social democrat system is take a look at this site.
http://www.sweden.se/
It's about Sweden and talks about social programs issues that the NDP basses themselves on to incorporate those in the Canadian system. It's actually a pretty good site.
Peace
So there you go, I also didn't know that until a week ago, before that I was dissing the Liberals since the scandal even though I was always for them until I became an "informed voter" and came to realize that the NDP's agenda is pretty interesting and might bring the Canadian system to a similar state like in Sweden.
If any of you guys wonder what a social democrat system is take a look at this site.
http://www.sweden.se/
It's about Sweden and talks about social programs issues that the NDP basses themselves on to incorporate those in the Canadian system. It's actually a pretty good site.
Peace
Yeah you're right plus like FlipMo said Harper looking like a "Redneck" is too true and would kill the whole economy *cough* mulroney gst *cough* as he doesn't look credible at all and would also delineate all minorities and much more things that I won't get into right now
BTW who are you voting for if you had the choice Devious187, is there anyone that seems to fit your case or not really?
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BTW who are you voting for if you had the choice Devious187, is there anyone that seems to fit your case or not really?
Peace
See, that's my problem. I was always a Liberal supporter, but after the sponsorship scandal, the gun registry bullshit, and a whole ton of other things, I won't be voting for them. Like I said, I definitely won't be voting conservative, so that doesn't leave much left except for the NDP. Maybe I'll vote for the marijuana party this year lol
Lol I see what you mean. But seriously you should think about NDP and how their agenda is appealing on several topics. The unfortunate thing is because of our SMP System, it causes a vote disortion ratio when people votes. This means that if you vote for the NDP, your vote prolly doesn't count as much as someone voting for the Liberals.
In other words, if someone is to vote for Liberals it is worth 1.5 votes compared to voting for another party. Or voting Liberal in Alberta and Ontario is not equivalent as in Ontario your Liberal vote is worth more. Because as prolly Glockomatic knows this: if you assure getting Quebec and Ontario you have about 2/3 of the seats which means you would have a majority government if you manage to get all these ridings.
BTW the SMP system simply means Single Member Plurality and was proved to be a very efficient system during the 1960-1980's when the elections were very competitive between the Libs. and Cons. even though the Liberals dominated that period. But now with a four party system, the SMP system is not very efficient so we would need a reform which I won't talk about right now.
Peace
In other words, if someone is to vote for Liberals it is worth 1.5 votes compared to voting for another party. Or voting Liberal in Alberta and Ontario is not equivalent as in Ontario your Liberal vote is worth more. Because as prolly Glockomatic knows this: if you assure getting Quebec and Ontario you have about 2/3 of the seats which means you would have a majority government if you manage to get all these ridings.
BTW the SMP system simply means Single Member Plurality and was proved to be a very efficient system during the 1960-1980's when the elections were very competitive between the Libs. and Cons. even though the Liberals dominated that period. But now with a four party system, the SMP system is not very efficient so we would need a reform which I won't talk about right now.
Peace
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