Att: Rukas and everyone Else.

[Rukas]

Lets see what i learned from Rukas' idiotic posts. First he thinks Islam is out for the destruction of specificaly the "west". and everything considered forbidden in Islam is found in the "west" only. How he came to that conculsion is beyond me. for example, Islam prohibits the following

Certain Music: NOT all music. According to Rukas Islam Prohibits Music from the 'West' only. Unappropriate Asian, Spanish, Arabic music etc is acceptable just 'western Music' is not..

Certain Movies: NOT all movies. According to Rukas Islam prohibits Movies filmed in the "west" only. Japanese, African, Latin movies are OK.

According to Rukas what lead those muslims to strap bombs to themselves was their nations ban on certain types of music and movies. The good old west has done absolutely nothing to the Islamic world that could have lead those suicidal manicas to strike back. it was those damn "anti-music deals'.

Rukas is saying Islam should be held accountable for what the terrorists do. I say the bible and christianity should be held responsible for what the thousands of catholic priests (who were convicted of rape, murder, sexual abuse of little girls and boys} did.

"Traces of encouragement that allows priests to rape lil boys is found in the simplest teachings of the bible" sounds familiar Rukas?

Rukas get over your self buddy, Islam is not out to get the "west". Islam is Not targeting western society only, its message is for all humanity. Its Prohibition of unappropriate music, movies, clothing, sexual activities etc are not directed towards the "west" only. Its for the whole world. Islam is not Creating a "west vs. Islam" when it makes 'anti-music deals'. its music in general not just music in the "west". The one here making it seem like its Islam vs the West is YOU.

You sound just like that idiot Bush himself when he says "They attacked us because they hate western way of life and our freedom"...yeah right..

Im not even going to reply to this. Ignorance, stupidity and a lack of rational discussion like this is what gives Muslims a bad name. I said nothing of the sort, either you're a total idiot who cant begin to understand what I was saying, or your fear at my possibly being correct has driven you to the worst argumental tactic there is...

I don't want to get "into" this, since my knowledge of the Quran and Islam is shady at best, and i'm certainly not tryna ride Ruk's penis, but some of you are severely twisting his words. I don't agree with him, nor with anyone here really, but don't twist his statements.

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And if you're not muslim, then you're just an idiot who has some axe to grinde or thinks they are higher than thou.

Next time Ill confide my religious discussion to MSN with Tru Principle, because at least he is smart enough, strong enough and wise enough to DISCUSS rather than twist words in stubborn self defence.

 

[TecK NeeX]

Im not even going to reply to this. Ignorance, stupidity and a lack of rational discussion like this is what gives Muslims a bad name. I said nothing of the sort, either you're a total idiot who cant begin to understand what I was saying, or your fear at my possibly being correct has driven you to the worst argumental tactic there is....

A wise choice my friend, my post did knock some sense into you after all. Im more than willing to engage in a rational discussion if thats what you wanna call it but i seriously can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. all that crap you typed was the most ignorant and prejudiced bullshit i have ever read from you.

They hate the west this they hate the west that blah blah blah cry me a fuckin river seriously

 

[Rukas]

^^ You're a moron. I used the west as an example. Last time I checked the rest was in the none Muslim world, which Islam says is "the devil," according to Jurhuh.

Keep twisting my words, you obviously have a twisted sence of reality and a below average reading comprehension, so twist away if it makes you feel better, but everyone saw that all you did was twist my words and try to make it seems like I said shit I never said. Why? Because you're an idiot? Because you cant handle the truth? Because you have no leg to stand on? Because you just cant address the issues at hand so you have to fly off on some wild tangent attacking an argument I never made?

Id ban you just for lowering the IQ level of this thread and for pissing me off while I was wasting my time updating the site again, but then you'd twist that into some sort of hate crime against Islam or some bullshit like that.

You're pathetic.

 

[TecK NeeX]

Next time Ill confide my religious discussion to MSN with Tru Principle, because at least he is smart enough, strong enough and wise enough to DISCUSS rather than twist words in stubborn self defence.

yeah next time maybe you should try quoting these Qur'anic teachings that you SOOOO made up that you claimed encourages and allows intolerance, prejudice, hate etc towards the west specificaly instead of making the shit up

maybe next time you should quote this islamic propaganda found in the 'Simplest of Islamic teachings' instead of making the shit up

when you starting quoting these teachings I'll think about having a 'rational discussion' with you. but until then i might as well try your method of discussion, and that's being as ignorant as one can be

 

[TecK NeeX]

^^ You're a moron. I used the west as an example. Last time I checked the rest was in the none Muslim world, which Islam says is "the devil," according to Jurhuh.

If im a moron then you're clearly beyond a moron, infact you've gone where no moron has ever gone before and you again proved that in this lil quote of yours. Now i know you're ignorance has takin complete control of you but try your hardest, show me where Islam says the west is the devil. ive read jurhums posts and no where did he say the west according to islam is the devil

Keep twisting my words, you obviously have a twisted sence of reality and a below average reading comprehension, so twist away if it makes you feel better, but everyone saw that all you did was twist my words and try to make it seems like I said shit I never said. Why?

You're a fool man, I'm not twisting shit i was simply being you for a minute there, i was seeing things from YOUR point of you when you blamed everything on Islam for what muslims do. so i said we should blame the bible and christianity for whatever christians do. funny shit.. really

Now i ask you do you hold christians and the bible accountable for what hitler did? what about the thousands of little boys and girls raped by your catholic priests? do you blame the bible for that? If not then you should do when any smart fella would do, go back and edit your posts where you claimed islam should be held accountable for what terrorists do.. got it?

Because you're an idiot? Because you cant handle the truth? Because you have no leg to stand on? Because you just cant address the issues at hand so you have to fly off on some wild tangent attacking an argument I never made?

Truth what truth? If truth is stranger than fiction, what you posted must be truth. lol if you call horseshit and bullshit all jammed into one giant post of yours truth then yes i can't handle that. and no i got 2 mighty strong legs thanx for your concern. But im not so sure about you tho, the comedy in your previous posts were about as laughable as a one legged man at an ass kicking contest.

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That game is what your brain cells were playing at the time when you made that long hate-filled, ignorant and uneducated post.

Id ban you just for lowering the IQ level of this thread and for pissing me off while I was wasting my time updating the site again, but then you'd twist that into some sort of hate crime against Islam or some bullshit like that.

Rukas. It is mind over matter. I don't mind, because you don't matter, if you feel like busting your e-guns out and e-ssassinate me then by all means go right the fuck ahead.

 

[TecK NeeX]

I think so yes, especially in the case of Muslims. If you're not allowed to see western movies or listen to western music then a lot of these kids really have no idea what goes on in the west, then it becomes easy to plant ideas into their heads and strap bombs onto their chests.


This makes me lose a lot of respect for Islam; its nothing but a propoganda tactic. "The west is so evil you cant even see their movies to judge for yourself if this is true, trust us, its bad, we dont know, cause we havent seen them, but it must be bad."

It's a total Cold War tactic. We were never allowed to have western music or movies in Communist countries, and the west wasnt allowed to have Communist movies or music, this kept the people seperated and confused, and easy to mold and guide into hating one another.

Im suprised Islam allows the Internet; it does right?

This post makes me want to delete my account if there ever was such a function. go ahead i demand i be deleted. When you pass away and people ask what the cause of your death was, I'll say your stupidity.

 

[Rukas]

If im a moron then you're clearly beyond a moron, infact you've gone where no moron has ever gone before and you again proved that in this lil quote of yours. Now i know you're ignorance has takin complete control of you but try your hardest, show me where Islam says the west is the devil. ive read jurhums posts and no where did he say the west according to islam is the devil

"If you seriously believe in your religion, worldly music has no place in your life. Worldly music carries in it the spirit of the world. The world is the devil, and any music about the world will allow the devil into your spirit."

Is that not what Islam says? Worldy music refers to music outside of the Muslim religion and the last time I checked western culture is outside of Muslim culture. Therefor it is saying western music is the devil.

Ive already stated this in my previous post; you chose to ignore it and further twist my words.

You're a fool man, I'm not twisting shit i was simply being you for a minute there, i was seeing things from YOUR point of you when you blamed everything on Islam for what muslims do. so i said we should blame the bible and christianity for whatever christians do. funny shit.. really

I didnt blame anything on ANYONE, I said that at some point, Islam needs to accept the fact that terrorists are Muslim and accept that responsibility. I never said Islam should be banned, punished or do anything other than stopping saying "they arent real Muslims," because clearly they are, they follow the Islamic faith. Therefore they are Muslim. Does that mean every Muslim should be punished for the actions of a few? Certainly not, and even though you love pretending I did, I never suggested such a thing.

Now i ask you do you hold christians and the bible accountable for what hitler did?

The Bible never bad mouths Jews, it never says they are the devil, it does not in anyway support what Hitler did, and unlike Islamic terrorists, Hitler never made excuses for his actions by pointing to the Bible. Regardless, Hitler was one man who believed what he believed, whether he actually believed it or it was an excuse to take over Europe is irrelevent, he was one man. How many Muslim terrorists swear by their actions? How many terrorists are there? This isnt one issolated case, its a whole sub culture of Muslim people.

what about the thousands of little boys and girls raped by your catholic priests? do you blame the bible for that?

Once again, the Bible doesnt in anyway suggest this type of action is alright, HOWEVER, yes, the Catholic church needs to accept responsibility, and they do. They dont sit there saying, "oh those arent real Catholics so we dont have to do anything." They accept that those men, while evil, are still Catholic, and they pay out damages to the victims.

Sure its not a perfect fail safe system, but it does accept responsibility, thats all I was saying Islam needs to do.

If not then you should do when any smart fella would do, go back and edit your posts where you claimed islam should be held accountable for what terrorists do.. got it?

Thanks for that perfect example of twisting my words. I never said Islam should be held accountbale, that suggests someone should judge and punish Islam, I never said anything like that. I said Islam needs to accept responsibility itself and hold itself accountable for the actions of its people.

As for your example, nothing in the bible suggests pedofilia is acceptable at all, and no priest quotes the bible to excuse or justify his evil deeds, and yet the Catholic church still accepts responsibility. However terrorists quote the Quaran and find justification in that, you can not deny that fact, and for that, Islam needs to accept responsiblity.

Truth what truth? If truth is stranger than fiction, what you posted must be truth.

Read above.

lol if you call horseshit and bullshit all jammed into one giant post of yours truth then yes i can't handle that. and no i got 2 mighty strong legs thanx for your concern. But im not so sure about you tho, the comedy in your previous posts were about as laughable as a one legged man at an ass kicking contest.

Blah blah blah.

Rukas. It is mind over matter. I don't mind, because you don't matter, if you feel like busting your e-guns out and e-ssassinate me then by all means go right the fuck ahead.

Yes, thats right... e-guns, yep, alright, wow an e-ssassination.. . Snap, you've got me. Woah what a diss...cause yep, I talk like that... ...

 

[Amara]

Enough. Obviously this cuts too close for people to accept a difference of opinion and beyond agreeing to disagree.

Closed.