Att: Rukas and everyone Else.

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#41
Wsup y'all

Just thought I'd drop in on here.

Ok, first, anal sex:

There are those scientific reasons - disease. Don't buy that? Well, the rectum is considered a filthy place, just strictly for defecation. That's all u need, bottom line. Which is y it's unacceptable in Islam - anythin filthy is considered unacceptable. Eatin a rat is considered filthy, even if it don't hav no disease - same thing. Wanna hav anal sex? Go ahead, ain't nobody stoppin u - to sum of us anal sex is silly.


Music: Music is debated n type of music. Sum say all music is sin, sum say sum is, etc. One thing, it's not a large issue, we believe there r sins of different levels, n let's assume for a minute listenin to music is a sin, it's on a lower level. Even if it is a sin, listenin to music won't make sumone a bad Muslim. It's not an enforceable sin (assumin it is a sin) where ppl can punish u, it's ur own personal self discipline thing. Plus, ppl act like sinnin in Islam is end of tha world. Sinnin is expected, God doesn't shun those who sin, he wants those who sin to try to become better (for those who hold faith in Islam).

Ok so let's assume that not all music is a sin, just sum. Tha kind that wastes space n time n all that. So, y'all got tha nerve to come on a hip hop site n hate on rap songs that talk bout women n money, but Muslims believe it's not good to listen to it, n u hate on em? NICE ONE SMART GUYS. Like I said, music wit a bad message would b considered a sin or ones that rn't beneficial - u can't hate on that, u hate on that kind of music urself! Plus, music DOES sway emotions, which is talked bout in Islam, which is y alot of music is LOOKED DOWN upon (u can argue if it's a sin or not). That's y u got em emo kids cryin in tthey room or satanist rockers buildin up more aggression of music. Unncessary sway of emotion from music is tha reason "bad" (totally subjective) music is looked down upon.

N tru, Islam is life n a lifestyle, but it is also very flexible. WE hav alot of grey areasbecuz God givs us reason n mind, so we use our reason n mind to do wats right.

N so wat if sumtin is a sin? Sins r canceeled out by good deeds, in Islam, n also, not all sins r enforceable by others, most rn't. It's between u n God. Do wat u want, in Islam. It's just ur own report card.

Peace!
Skillz
 

Helena

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#42
Skillz said:
Wsup y'all

Just thought I'd drop in on here.

Ok, first, anal sex:

There are those scientific reasons - disease. Don't buy that? Well, the rectum is considered a filthy place, just strictly for defecation. That's all u need, bottom line. Which is y it's unacceptable in Islam - anythin filthy is considered unacceptable. Eatin a rat is considered filthy, even if it don't hav no disease - same thing. Wanna hav anal sex? Go ahead, ain't nobody stoppin u - to sum of us anal sex is silly.


Music: Music is debated n type of music. Sum say all music is sin, sum say sum is, etc. One thing, it's not a large issue, we believe there r sins of different levels, n let's assume for a minute listenin to music is a sin, it's on a lower level. Even if it is a sin, listenin to music won't make sumone a bad Muslim. It's not an enforceable sin (assumin it is a sin) where ppl can punish u, it's ur own personal self discipline thing. Plus, ppl act like sinnin in Islam is end of tha world. Sinnin is expected, God doesn't shun those who sin, he wants those who sin to try to become better (for those who hold faith in Islam).

Ok so let's assume that not all music is a sin, just sum. Tha kind that wastes space n time n all that. So, y'all got tha nerve to come on a hip hop site n hate on rap songs that talk bout women n money, but Muslims believe it's not good to listen to it, n u hate on em? NICE ONE SMART GUYS. Like I said, music wit a bad message would b considered a sin or ones that rn't beneficial - u can't hate on that, u hate on that kind of music urself! Plus, music DOES sway emotions, which is talked bout in Islam, which is y alot of music is LOOKED DOWN upon (u can argue if it's a sin or not). That's y u got em emo kids cryin in tthey room or satanist rockers buildin up more aggression of music. Unncessary sway of emotion from music is tha reason "bad" (totally subjective) music is looked down upon.

N tru, Islam is life n a lifestyle, but it is also very flexible. WE hav alot of grey areasbecuz God givs us reason n mind, so we use our reason n mind to do wats right.

N so wat if sumtin is a sin? Sins r canceeled out by good deeds, in Islam, n also, not all sins r enforceable by others, most rn't. It's between u n God. Do wat u want, in Islam. It's just ur own report card.

Peace!
Skillz
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Jokerman

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#44
Jurhum said:
I listend to all kinds of music. Honestly, I found no benifit whatsoever. All I gained was how to be ganster, thugged-out, and curse a lot.
Whereas, I gained a lot from rap music. I learned how to be gangster, thugged-out, and how to curse a lot.:eek:

But it's the same with Christians, people. Serious, non-Catholic Christians. At least in the US. All they think they should listen to is gospel music. Music praising God. And they got a point, same as Muslims. If you seriously believe in your religion, worldly music has no place in your life. Worldly music carries in it the spirit of the world. The world is the devil, and any music about the world will allow the devil into your spirit.
 

Rukas

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#45
Jurhum said:
There is a lot of music in the Arab world. Saying that not listening to music is what produces extremist is a very blind judgment. Is music really a necessity in life? Are movies really that important?

I think so yes, especially in the case of Muslims. If you're not allowed to see western movies or listen to western music then a lot of these kids really have no idea what goes on in the west, then it becomes easy to plant ideas into their heads and strap bombs onto their chests.


This makes me lose a lot of respect for Islam; its nothing but a propoganda tactic. "The west is so evil you cant even see their movies to judge for yourself if this is true, trust us, its bad, we dont know, cause we havent seen them, but it must be bad."

It's a total Cold War tactic. We were never allowed to have western music or movies in Communist countries, and the west wasnt allowed to have Communist movies or music, this kept the people seperated and confused, and easy to mold and guide into hating one another.

Im suprised Islam allows the Internet; it does right?
 

Rukas

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#48
Jurhum said:
^ read jokermans post. he's right, 100%. Plus, i didn't say only western music, movies, rather music in general.

Just because other people do it to, that doesnt mean Islam doing it is right at all.
 
#49
Jurhum said:
^ Oral sex is permissible as long as no fluids are swallowed or ejected onto others.
lol, i seriously doubt this. it just makes no sense, like rukaahs was sayin if this is acceptable then wtf isnt anal sex??????. i just think its blatantly obvious for a muslim to know that oral sex is filthy something you would do to a hoe.
 

Jurhum

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#50
Rukas said:
Just because other people do it to, that doesnt mean Islam doing it is right at all.
I thought your comprehnsion was greater than this. Jokerman said, "If you seriously believe in your religion, worldly music has no place in your life. Worldly music carries in it the spirit of the world. The world is the devil, and any music about the world will allow the devil into your spirit."

It's not because Christians do it, that I agreed. It's because music is a worldly fulfilment. It doesn't get one closer to God;on the contrary, some music even questions the existance of God.
 

Jurhum

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#51
cookies said:
lol, i seriously doubt this. it just makes no sense, like rukaahs was sayin if this is acceptable then wtf isnt anal sex??????. i just think its blatantly obvious for a muslim to know that oral sex is filthy something you would do to a hoe.
Oral sex is looked at as foreplay. It's ok as long as no fluids, which are filthy, are ejected. It's a way to titillate each other.
 
#52
cookies said:


lol, i seriously doubt this. it just makes no sense, like rukaahs was sayin if this is acceptable then wtf isnt anal sex??????. i just think its blatantly obvious for a muslim to know that oral sex is filthy something you would do to a hoe.


It's deemed filthy by u. We're talkin bout wat God deems filthy. N anythin secreted n takin into a mouth is considered filthy. As long as nuthin is secreted into tha mouth, it isn't filthy in Islam.

U can doubt all u want. I don't see how anal sex n oral sex r tha same thing. I didn't even kno anal sex wasn't allowed in Islam till a lil while back, but before that I thought anal sex was filthy n disgustin, wehther it was allowable in Islam or not, where as I didn't feel tha same bout oral sex. U stick ur weenie in a hoe to, u can do anythin to a hoe, wat's ur argument?

Skillz
 

S O F I

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#53
The people that are opposing Islam's point of view should really take a minute to reflect upon themselves and ask themselves, "Why do I oppose Islam's POV, why do I feel it's foolish and propaganda?"
 
#54
Skillz said:
U stick ur weenie in a hoe to, u can do anythin to a hoe, wat's ur argument?

Skillz
??? i dont fuck hoes, is that a good enough argument. really the only way to know for a fact that oral sex is permissable is by asking muslim scholars (molannahs???), cuz they'll have learnt many aspects to the Quran. Iv done reading on this subject and all i seem to find is speculation, where nobody really knows shit (my source the internet, lol) and you cant exactly ask your mum if oral sex is permissable in islam lmao.
 

Jurhum

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#55
Muslim jurists are of the opinion that it is lawful for the husband to perform cunnilingus on his wife, or a wife to perform the similar act for her husband (fellatio) and there is no wrong in doing so. But if sucking leads to releasing semen, then it is Makruh (blameworthy, highly disliked), but there is no decisive evidence to forbid it.
islamonline.com
 
#56
Actually, u failed to understand wat I was sayin wit tha hoes thing. Aside from that. Tru, Ulama debate on whether oral sex is a sin or not. That's where ppls rationalization comes in. Ppl decide for themselves whether they think oral sex is or not right, up to them. One thing for sure is tho, jizz in tha mouth is considered filthy, straight up.
Skillz
 
#57
Jurhum said:
I thought your comprehnsion was greater than this. Jokerman said, "If you seriously believe in your religion, worldly music has no place in your life. Worldly music carries in it the spirit of the world. The world is the devil, and any music about the world will allow the devil into your spirit."

It's not because Christians do it, that I agreed. It's because music is a worldly fulfilment. It doesn't get one closer to God;on the contrary, some music even questions the existance of God.
Does this mean Pacs music is the devils?

:eek:
 
#58
Skillz said:
Actually, u failed to understand wat I was sayin wit tha hoes thing. Aside from that. Tru, Ulama debate on whether oral sex is a sin or not. That's where ppls rationalization comes in. Ppl decide for themselves whether they think oral sex is or not right, up to them. One thing for sure is tho, jizz in tha mouth is considered filthy, straight up.
Skillz
agreed
 
#59
You're allowed to come onto this message board and read topics posts that openly question the existence of God as well as your religion, why is that? Atheism and anti-religion is far more prevalent on the internet than in modern music.
 

Sebastian

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#60
Skillz said:
There are those scientific reasons - disease. Don't buy that? Well, the rectum is considered a filthy place, just strictly for defecation. That's all u need, bottom line. Which is y it's unacceptable in Islam - anythin filthy is considered unacceptable. Eatin a rat is considered filthy, even if it don't hav no disease - same thing. Wanna hav anal sex? Go ahead, ain't nobody stoppin u - to sum of us anal sex is silly.
thats nonsense, isnt it? anything filthy is unacceptable in islam, but if something isnt filthy you are still not allowed to eat it? (take your example of the rat) why is eating a rat considered filthy even though the rat isnt filthy? sry but i dont get it...


Jurhum said:
I'm not. I live in a western country. I listend to all kinds of music.​
Honestly, I found no benifit whatsoever. All I gained was how to be ganster, thugged-out, and curse a lot.
yeah sure.lol..im at a loss for words.
 
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