Inspectah Deck Disses Joe Budden
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As a big Wu-Tang fan and also a big Inspectah Deck fan, this is embarrassing. This is a terrible diss. We know his girl has a big ass that everybody wants to see. We know about Gloria Velez. We know about Def Jam. That whole jepordy shit was cute, but how many people can name an Inspectah Deck solo song?
It ain't worth it for Joey to diss this dude. As dope as I think he is, he has a non-existent solo career. He's a group rapper and he'll never be anything more. Joey is a much better solo artist and when it comes to battling like this, he's incredible. What are you gonna say about the guy that ain't already been said in his past 4 beefs on wax? This just proves it.
And lets not forget.. not every rapper is made to do this battle shit.
I'm not at all interested in a Wu vs. Slaughterhouse beef on wax to be honest. It would be VERY VERY entertaining, but ehhhhh. Lets face it.. as a group, Wu ain't what they used to be. It kills me to say that because they're my favorite group ever. Slaughterhouse is a group full of dope spitters that'll shit on them right now in 2009. That's just the way it is. In my opinion of course. Wu-Tang has some grimey rappers (Method Man, Raekwon) and some lyrical rappers (INS, Ghost, Gza), but they ain't dope enough to out-spit these dudes right now. Not to discredit Wu or anything they have done. They've got classic group albums AND classic solo albums. Ghost is one of the most consistent rappers ever in my opinion.
Any one that says this diss is any good is only fooling them self.
It ain't worth it for Joey to diss this dude. As dope as I think he is, he has a non-existent solo career. He's a group rapper and he'll never be anything more. Joey is a much better solo artist and when it comes to battling like this, he's incredible. What are you gonna say about the guy that ain't already been said in his past 4 beefs on wax? This just proves it.
And lets not forget.. not every rapper is made to do this battle shit.
I'm not at all interested in a Wu vs. Slaughterhouse beef on wax to be honest. It would be VERY VERY entertaining, but ehhhhh. Lets face it.. as a group, Wu ain't what they used to be. It kills me to say that because they're my favorite group ever. Slaughterhouse is a group full of dope spitters that'll shit on them right now in 2009. That's just the way it is. In my opinion of course. Wu-Tang has some grimey rappers (Method Man, Raekwon) and some lyrical rappers (INS, Ghost, Gza), but they ain't dope enough to out-spit these dudes right now. Not to discredit Wu or anything they have done. They've got classic group albums AND classic solo albums. Ghost is one of the most consistent rappers ever in my opinion.
Any one that says this diss is any good is only fooling them self.
ok, everyone keeps saying Joe Budden is a dope battle rapper. Somebody please put me on. I dont see it in him. His punchlines on most tracks are mediocre (but he does surprise me sometimes) . That one track he did "Blood on the Wall" to Prodigy was an embarassment. To me, Joe Budden is more or less emo rap, he's sick with his concepts and he's sick with his mood music shit. But like I said, I havent really heard too many of his diss records, so somebody please put me on to some shit that proves Joe's a good battle rapper.
and c'mon linx... This diss was horrible? I wont say it was great but it was nice. The beat was on point, Deck was spitting mad aggressive, and he has some nice lines here and there.
and c'mon linx... This diss was horrible? I wont say it was great but it was nice. The beat was on point, Deck was spitting mad aggressive, and he has some nice lines here and there.
awww Joe Budden, u call out niggas, saying that nobody would dare cuz they aint stupid enough and that u would light they ass up, and now u dont wanna respond, cuz u think its not even worthy of a response, yet u have the utmost respect for them.... this nigga is most definitely bi-polar or some shit
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I liked this diss, the jeopardy part near the start was pretty funny and there were a few lines that had me cracking up. Well isn't this what Joey wanted? To go against someone lyrical? Well INS did drop bombs through out his career so what better person to prove himself against for Joey.
SH imo are overrated anyways, their the cheap mans 4 Horsemen. In saying that I fuck with their music and have been kept updated on their shit however I just don't understand all the excitement. People are thinking they're going to revolutionize hip-hop or something but they're not. The WU have never been battle emcee's outside of the GZA, they are real cats telling it how it is with their own individual style. That's why people loved them. Sometimes all someone needs is a small push for them to get back into their groove and come back out of the box fired up and swinging, perhaps Joey has provided that motivation for the WU to do that.
But back on the diss, I liked it. Saigon ripped Joey, Game before that and now INS has tapped him on the jaw. Joey's battle record is poor, fuck a thought or an opinion that's disagreeing though you can have that if that's what you really think. Joey is emo rap like someone said, dude just like Game have major personality issues. I'm sure no one in the hip-hop game takes him seriously and never will. His best shit is Mood Muzik series (I loved that series) but every other body of work minus hopefully the SH LP has been borderline rubbish for someone who's constantly jocking themselves about how skilled they are.
He should take a leave out of Canibus book build on what he has and learn to be humble. Some times regardless of how sick you think you are, you just can't win over the majority.
SH imo are overrated anyways, their the cheap mans 4 Horsemen. In saying that I fuck with their music and have been kept updated on their shit however I just don't understand all the excitement. People are thinking they're going to revolutionize hip-hop or something but they're not. The WU have never been battle emcee's outside of the GZA, they are real cats telling it how it is with their own individual style. That's why people loved them. Sometimes all someone needs is a small push for them to get back into their groove and come back out of the box fired up and swinging, perhaps Joey has provided that motivation for the WU to do that.
But back on the diss, I liked it. Saigon ripped Joey, Game before that and now INS has tapped him on the jaw. Joey's battle record is poor, fuck a thought or an opinion that's disagreeing though you can have that if that's what you really think. Joey is emo rap like someone said, dude just like Game have major personality issues. I'm sure no one in the hip-hop game takes him seriously and never will. His best shit is Mood Muzik series (I loved that series) but every other body of work minus hopefully the SH LP has been borderline rubbish for someone who's constantly jocking themselves about how skilled they are.
He should take a leave out of Canibus book build on what he has and learn to be humble. Some times regardless of how sick you think you are, you just can't win over the majority.
Saigon did the same fucking thing as INS! He repeated shit we already heard! He put out a weak first diss and then came back with a second diss that was entertaining, but he repeated himself. He said people on his forum were making up lines for him and that wasn't true. He mentions how he was dropped by Def Jam. Uhh.. Atlantic any one? Yeah, saigon was being a hypocrite because he was in the same fucking label situation. He called his son gay and said he sucked dick.. yeah that's real dope. Joe said he made Jus Blaze more money than Sai did and Sai's response is "where is he on your new shit?". He brings up Fab and his girl.. we've heard that before. The "can you name 5 people that felt touch and go?" line was alright. The whole "J" shit was a waste of fucking time and it was completely irrelevant.
Saigon had some cool irrelevant lines.. but they were just that.. irrelevant. It was cool for him to use his own beat, but it gets kind of played out to call someone else gay 101 different ways. I'm a Saigon fan, but ehh.. not that impressive. What gets me is how some people don't realize this shit.
Joey is NOT overrated as a battle rapper. I've heard a LOT of diss songs from rappers over the years and I can honestly say that he puts his foot in someones ass when he goes at them. He's just good at spitting relevant lines and hitting his opponent hard with punchlines. He stuck his foot in games ass on "Game Over". He stuck his foot in Ransoms ass on "Heart Of The City" and "Ransom Note". He stuck his foot in Saigons ass on "Pain In His Life" and "Letter To Saigon". Relevant shit.
Why was Inspectah Decks diss weak? He said some shit these dudes already said. He's a group rapper with a completely non-existent solo career. Budden is a far better solo artist. Deck at this point is a far better group artist. Fact. All the diss did was let me know that Deck can still spit.. which is good honestly. If someone is gonna try and defend Method Man like that, they gotta do a LOT better than that. What would Budden get out of dissing this dude? It would be different if it was Method Man because he was the one the problems started with and he actually spoke about the shit on the radio various times. Not everybody is cut out to do this battle shit. I can't see any body in Wu-Tang doing shit.
Some of y'all gotta really start LISTENING to this shit.
Saigon had some cool irrelevant lines.. but they were just that.. irrelevant. It was cool for him to use his own beat, but it gets kind of played out to call someone else gay 101 different ways. I'm a Saigon fan, but ehh.. not that impressive. What gets me is how some people don't realize this shit.
Joey is NOT overrated as a battle rapper. I've heard a LOT of diss songs from rappers over the years and I can honestly say that he puts his foot in someones ass when he goes at them. He's just good at spitting relevant lines and hitting his opponent hard with punchlines. He stuck his foot in games ass on "Game Over". He stuck his foot in Ransoms ass on "Heart Of The City" and "Ransom Note". He stuck his foot in Saigons ass on "Pain In His Life" and "Letter To Saigon". Relevant shit.
Why was Inspectah Decks diss weak? He said some shit these dudes already said. He's a group rapper with a completely non-existent solo career. Budden is a far better solo artist. Deck at this point is a far better group artist. Fact. All the diss did was let me know that Deck can still spit.. which is good honestly. If someone is gonna try and defend Method Man like that, they gotta do a LOT better than that. What would Budden get out of dissing this dude? It would be different if it was Method Man because he was the one the problems started with and he actually spoke about the shit on the radio various times. Not everybody is cut out to do this battle shit. I can't see any body in Wu-Tang doing shit.
Some of y'all gotta really start LISTENING to this shit.
Game Over - just listened to it twice... are u for real? thats supposed to be a great battle record?
Letter to Saigon - aiyte he had some dope ass lines no doubt (none though till ur a minute in). But then again he also gave new meaning to wack punchlines
"how u gonna be a big name in the future, not even big named as a loser".... uhhh ok, good one joe, ur son come up with that one?
and then shit gets even funnier when he gets all gun talk near the end... who u kidding man? Saigon is a known hard body cat, and ur known to back out of any potentially sticky situations, because ur not a fighter.
Pain in His Life - Aiyte Joe gets it in on this one. Pretty dope ass diss record.
Ransom disses - I never even heard of the dude so I cant judge if Buddens tore em up or not. But I will say this, u are a definite nutcase if u'll battle a nobody nigga like Ransom, but wont battle Deck, cuz u claim he's not important enough
Budden is involved with a beef every 2 months, obviously all the diss tracks towards him will be similar. Whereas the dudes that he beefs with are not involved in rap battles every other day so it sounds as if he's being fresh and everyone else is being repetitive... Its common sense.
Look I like Joe Budden, he's great with his introspective shit, and he puts up some funny ass shit on JBTV. But this guy has serious personality defects, and needs a good old fashion ass whoopin. You cant just go around poppin off at the mouth about different emcees every other day. Especially when ur a mediocre battle rapper, Sorry linx, I still dont see anything special about him when it comes down to it. I admit he has decent lines here and there, but he aint know Rass Kass, Chino XL or Vakill, lets just put it that way.
As far as the Wu is concerned, no they aint built for battling (on wax) either.
Letter to Saigon - aiyte he had some dope ass lines no doubt (none though till ur a minute in). But then again he also gave new meaning to wack punchlines
"how u gonna be a big name in the future, not even big named as a loser".... uhhh ok, good one joe, ur son come up with that one?
and then shit gets even funnier when he gets all gun talk near the end... who u kidding man? Saigon is a known hard body cat, and ur known to back out of any potentially sticky situations, because ur not a fighter.
Pain in His Life - Aiyte Joe gets it in on this one. Pretty dope ass diss record.
Ransom disses - I never even heard of the dude so I cant judge if Buddens tore em up or not. But I will say this, u are a definite nutcase if u'll battle a nobody nigga like Ransom, but wont battle Deck, cuz u claim he's not important enough
Budden is involved with a beef every 2 months, obviously all the diss tracks towards him will be similar. Whereas the dudes that he beefs with are not involved in rap battles every other day so it sounds as if he's being fresh and everyone else is being repetitive... Its common sense.
Look I like Joe Budden, he's great with his introspective shit, and he puts up some funny ass shit on JBTV. But this guy has serious personality defects, and needs a good old fashion ass whoopin. You cant just go around poppin off at the mouth about different emcees every other day. Especially when ur a mediocre battle rapper, Sorry linx, I still dont see anything special about him when it comes down to it. I admit he has decent lines here and there, but he aint know Rass Kass, Chino XL or Vakill, lets just put it that way.
As far as the Wu is concerned, no they aint built for battling (on wax) either.
I guess we can agree to disagree. I'm not gonna try and make you a fan, lol. He's much better than guys like Ras Kass, Chino XL and Vakill to me though. And I listen to those dudes too.
The thing with Joe Budden is this. He says what every rapper THINKS. He's not afraid to speak his mind and people hate on him tremendously for it. At least he has the balls to say the shit. That I give him credit for. He seems like a humble dude and he was cool when I met him and talked to him. Why shouldn't you be confident as a rapper? It's no different than Kobe Bryant thinking he's the best. Or Randy Moss thinking he's the best. The funny part is he's really not an arrogant dude. He's a fan of Hip Hop and that sort of gets him in trouble. That's what it is.
Lets be honest.. the vibe bracket thing was a joke. Joe Budden wasn't the only rapper (or fan) of Hip Hop who thought the list was a complete fucking joke. Some rappers aren't as dope and/or aren't as relevant as they once were. That's a fact. Legacy and past aside, in 2009, Joe Budden (in my opinion) can out rap many people. He's only one of the rappers I listen to by the way. It's not like he's my absolute favorite or anything. I just think highly of the guy as a rapper.
As far as him as a battle rapper.. nothing is gonna change the fact that I think he's really good at it. Until he makes something whack. I'm not saying he completely ethered anybody, but when you got people repeating stuff about you that the last person already said.. they make it easy enough anyway. He spits relevant shit about people. That's the most important thing. I wouldn't say he's in a battle every 2 months, but he's been in quite a few.. lol. The one thing I don't get is how people can call disses towards him good when like you said.. it's "common sense".. people are repeating what others said.
As far as the reason he's been in these "beefs".. it's not like they're all caused by him. The Game shit was something stupid. The Ransom shit was started by Ransom. The Saigon shit was started because Saigon took offense to a punchline Joe had.. which is ridiculous. And now we have a random Wu-Tang member going at him to defend another member because he caught feelings.
The thing with Joe Budden is this. He says what every rapper THINKS. He's not afraid to speak his mind and people hate on him tremendously for it. At least he has the balls to say the shit. That I give him credit for. He seems like a humble dude and he was cool when I met him and talked to him. Why shouldn't you be confident as a rapper? It's no different than Kobe Bryant thinking he's the best. Or Randy Moss thinking he's the best. The funny part is he's really not an arrogant dude. He's a fan of Hip Hop and that sort of gets him in trouble. That's what it is.
Lets be honest.. the vibe bracket thing was a joke. Joe Budden wasn't the only rapper (or fan) of Hip Hop who thought the list was a complete fucking joke. Some rappers aren't as dope and/or aren't as relevant as they once were. That's a fact. Legacy and past aside, in 2009, Joe Budden (in my opinion) can out rap many people. He's only one of the rappers I listen to by the way. It's not like he's my absolute favorite or anything. I just think highly of the guy as a rapper.
As far as him as a battle rapper.. nothing is gonna change the fact that I think he's really good at it. Until he makes something whack. I'm not saying he completely ethered anybody, but when you got people repeating stuff about you that the last person already said.. they make it easy enough anyway. He spits relevant shit about people. That's the most important thing. I wouldn't say he's in a battle every 2 months, but he's been in quite a few.. lol. The one thing I don't get is how people can call disses towards him good when like you said.. it's "common sense".. people are repeating what others said.
As far as the reason he's been in these "beefs".. it's not like they're all caused by him. The Game shit was something stupid. The Ransom shit was started by Ransom. The Saigon shit was started because Saigon took offense to a punchline Joe had.. which is ridiculous. And now we have a random Wu-Tang member going at him to defend another member because he caught feelings.
Joe Buddens beef's have been started because Joey get's very emotional over opinions. This is the same dude who did a video asking if Melle Mell can rap in 2009. The same dude who accused Meth of having his shit written for him. Why so many dudes are defending Joey at this point I don't understand.
I like Joey but this is what he wanted. He wanted to go against someone lyrical and here is his opportunity. If he doesn't reply now and waves Deck off then IMO Joey is a hypocrite and a bitch for the fact that in the last 2 months he has been crying on videos saying "it's all about lyrics and who can spit and rhyme".
Mixtape wise Joey has crack and Deck couldn't hold a candle against them however album wise, Decks 1st album > any Joey album. Group wise isn't even a question. There's a small group of people who are now saying Deck is trash all over the net because he dissed their dear idol Joey. lol Don't make me laugh, Deck has proven time and time again he can come with those sharp dope ass lyrics. With flows. With songs in general.
Deck ain't no slouch on the mic and never has been, I've been a fan of his shit for along time. I own all his shit just like I own all of Joey's buyable shit. But like I said already, Joey is the one who's been saying "it's 2009, does this dude and that dude have lyrics? Can he spit? Is he better than me?" Well it's Joey's time to show and prove himself against a real, seasoned, lyrical emcee and if Joey doesn't reply to this he has automatically lost. That's what's fact.
Majority opinion from both fans and fellow rappers have gone with Saigon in his previous "beef" and now the majority again have gone with Deck. 2 years ago I remember threads were being made about how dope Deck is by the same people who now are saying Deck ain't all that. That's why I don't take any general hip-hop fan serious anymore, they side with movements rather then facts.
I like Joey but this is what he wanted. He wanted to go against someone lyrical and here is his opportunity. If he doesn't reply now and waves Deck off then IMO Joey is a hypocrite and a bitch for the fact that in the last 2 months he has been crying on videos saying "it's all about lyrics and who can spit and rhyme".
Mixtape wise Joey has crack and Deck couldn't hold a candle against them however album wise, Decks 1st album > any Joey album. Group wise isn't even a question. There's a small group of people who are now saying Deck is trash all over the net because he dissed their dear idol Joey. lol Don't make me laugh, Deck has proven time and time again he can come with those sharp dope ass lyrics. With flows. With songs in general.
Deck ain't no slouch on the mic and never has been, I've been a fan of his shit for along time. I own all his shit just like I own all of Joey's buyable shit. But like I said already, Joey is the one who's been saying "it's 2009, does this dude and that dude have lyrics? Can he spit? Is he better than me?" Well it's Joey's time to show and prove himself against a real, seasoned, lyrical emcee and if Joey doesn't reply to this he has automatically lost. That's what's fact.
Majority opinion from both fans and fellow rappers have gone with Saigon in his previous "beef" and now the majority again have gone with Deck. 2 years ago I remember threads were being made about how dope Deck is by the same people who now are saying Deck ain't all that. That's why I don't take any general hip-hop fan serious anymore, they side with movements rather then facts.
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