How do you want to die?

[masta247]

lol I don't mean that fe. a person might get swallowed by one and then get out.
There's no proof that any kind of matter will not get out of it eventually. And I don't mean matter getting out in its original form.

 

[Duke]

There's also no proof that there's no 3 million gallons of ice cream at the center of the moon.


I mean, c'mon.

 

[S. Fourteen]

we need to build ben & jerry's on the moon.

 

[Duke]

You might be on to something there...

 

[masta247]

There's also no proof that there's no 3 million gallons of ice cream at the center of the moon.


I mean, c'mon.

In some cases matter may actually escape a black hole.
That's what Stephen Hawking said

 

[Duke]

Link?

I don;'t tsurt your word anymore. if youre right i give you your kudoss.

 

[masta247]

Hawking cracks black hole paradox - 14 July 2004 - New Scientist

 

[Duke]

Interesting.

 

[masta247]

There's a lot of interesting info on new scientist, even though they take the big bang theory as a fact.
So much happens each month which makes most books outdated and their site is usually fresh with all kinds of news.
I think it's one of them that found out or at least they were first to publish an article that some galaxies would be older than the universe if the big bang actually happened.
Which in my opinion is a good enough reason to go on and dismiss that theory.

This section is pretty awesome by itself:

Space news and outer space articles from New Scientist - New Scientist Space - New Scientist

 

[Jokerman]

Hawking cracks black hole paradox - 14 July 2004 - New Scientist

Who cares what Hawking has to say about black holes. Paris Hilton says no, he has not cracked it. "Notice how there's absolutely nothing about Hawking's revision to be found since he announced it in 2004? No updates, no comments from other astronomers. No one wants to be the first to say, 'huh, Mr. Roboto?' Even the man he made the bet with, John Preskill, said he didn't understand the talk Hawking gave on it in 2004."

And Nicole Richie says, "Quantum theory tells us that particles do not come from within the black hole, but from the "empty" space just outside it's event horizon!"

Paris- "Keep in mind, Hawking is not saying this is what black holes do. He's only saying that this is a possible way for black holes to eventually release some of the matter/energy within them and not disobey the second law and quantum physics. But since most black holes will outlive the universe, whether they will eventually open and release stuff is kind of unprovable and irrelevant."

Nikky- "Totally."

 

[masta247]

If that case was not popular enough (though I remember that it was massively commented here) that's probably because theories on things like this are not rare.
There are hundreds of theories and only some of them are said to be "the most possible" and considered nearly as a fact (like the big bang one).

I just pasted what Hawking said for Duke who brought his name and didn't believe in what I said.
Also, Hawking is considered to be one of the greatest black hole-universum scientists who supported the whole big bang idea.

 

[Duke]

So far, the "big bang" theory is the one most supported by what we see and can calculate.

Like, a lot.

I mean, there's theories and there's theories. If one is continually supported by the observations made by scientists, you have to start attaching a higher "probability level".

 

[masta247]

Yeah I'm well aware of that. There are still things that don't fit to that theory and it's not proven. Sometimes they talk about it like it's a fact neglecting counterarguments. For example when the string theory was first introduced they were glad that it solved a lot of their problems. Nobody mentioned that it simply destroyed some "facts" about big bang.
They only took what suited them. I feel like they have spent too much effort and money on it to say that they were all wrong. That's not certain but that's how I see it.
I somehow can't believe in that theory and that's all I'm trying to say. I don't want to convince anyone or claim that I have a theory that is more possible because it might be not, I'm not a specialist. I just have my own brain that works logically and I analyze information gathered by people who know more in this matter than I do.

 

[Jokerman]

cosmologystatement.org

 

[masta247]

Bingo

 

[S O F I]

I wonder how Jokerman is going to die.

 

[Jokerman]

I wonder how Jokerman is going to die.

Laughing, of course.

 

[Jokerman]

Actually, in about 15 billion years I'm going to collapse into a black hole.

 

[Rahim]

i want to die peacefully.

 

[ill-matic]

i want to die peacefully.

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