OBAMA clinches Democratic Presidential Nomination.

[S O F I]

Your days are numbered, Dubya. You too McCain.

 

[Glockmatic]

Finally. Now he just needs a republican vice president and it'll be smooth sailing to presidency

 

[ARon]

And this bitch still won't go away. Hillary pisses me the fuck off. If she is his VP, from what I read before I doubt she will be, but if, I don't know what I'll do come November. Probably not vote at all like I did last time.

 

[S O F I]

And this bitch still won't go away. Hillary pisses me the fuck off. If she is his VP, from what I read before I doubt she will be, but if, I don't know what I'll do come November. Probably not vote at all like I did last time.

Your former mayor (the black one) was recruited by her campaign sometime this year. He gave a speech at my school persuading us about Hilary and how she'll win the nom. I wonder if he's still on her campaign...

 

[ARon]

That's kind of funny. When he was elected as Mayor I wasn't living here or even old enough to care. Anyway he always played the hometown guy from the inner city role, so for him to back Hillary is pretty damn funny. He was a pretty capable dude though, did some good things.

 

[Snowman]

NOOOOO!!!!!

hope a socialist doesnt get to be president. im voting McCain.

at least Hillary would have been the lesser of the two evils

 

[Rukas]

What is her excuse now? For not accepting the lose I mean.

 

[ARon]

I laugh at people who think Socialism is the devil. Especially while being on the internet, I'm kind of reaching here but it works. Stop acting like Obama is gonna take all our wages and divide it to everyone evenly. OMG A SOCIALIST.

 

[Casey]

Obama for the win!!!

 

[PuffnScruff]

Thread #2: Larry’s HillBuzz Story : NO QUARTER
the gop october surprise?

it wont matter the electoral college isn't in obamas favor. they aren't going to elect a guy in an empty suit.

lol and why is this a sticky? sofi you obamabot

 

[S O F I]

lol and why is this a sticky? sofi you obamabot

Bite me.

 

[Sebastian]

Puffy still doesnt believe Obama is going to be the next president?

 

[PuffnScruff]

Puffy still doesnt believe Obama is going to be the next president?

it has nothing to do with what i believe. i think it is possible, this is has been an election season where nothing has been predictable, but what most people do not understand about the general election is that the president is not decided by who wins the most votes (the popular vote), where other elections like representatives, senators, and governors are. it is decided by who wins the electoral college votes. so far every politcal analyst that i have read in regards to the electoral college says it is favoring mccain. it is just the simple truth. our constitution does not say that the people decide the president. it says the electoral college does. but like i said, this has not been a predictable election season.

 

[Cooper]

it has nothing to do with what i believe. i think it is possible, this is has been an election season where nothing has been predictable, but what most people do not understand about the general election is that the president is not decided by who wins the most votes (the popular vote), where other elections like representatives, senators, and governors are. it is decided by who wins the electoral college votes. so far every politcal analyst that i have read in regards to the electoral college says it is favoring mccain. it is just the simple truth. our constitution does not say that the people decide the president. it says the electoral college does. but like i said, this has not been a predictable election season.

Democracy sucks.

 

[Devious]

i've always loved the electoral college. let's tell the citizens that every vote counts, how important it is for you to vote, but let's not tell them that their votes actually mean nothing. God bless America

 

[S O F I]

i've always loved the electoral college. let's tell the citizens that every vote counts, how important it is for you to vote, but let's not tell them that their votes actually mean nothing. God bless America

That's the more cynical view of the electoral college. I think it only happened twice in history (second time was in 2004) that the electoral college vote was different from the popular vote. Usually, the electors will vote for the candidate who receives the most votes in that state. So, theoretically, you can argue against the electoral college, but it hasn't fucked us over too many times, just once really bad.

So the votes do count, my Canuck friend.


Also, one of my better ego-inflating moments and then somebody elses ego-deflating moments was when Militant didn't understand this concept and thought the President was picked with the popular vote.

 

[PuffnScruff]

i think it is was actually 4 times in u.s. history the popular vote went to the person who did not win the electoral college vote, last time was in 2000. bush won both in '04. if obama does lose the electoral college in this election he think he will probably take the popular vote. and we could see more elections like that in the future.

the original design of the electoral college by the founders was to try and stop elections from being rigged and fraud elections in general (at least that is one of the more basic ideas of it that i have been told). when you look at it in that sense it is hard to argue that it doesn't work. although it is very confusing for people that don't understand the basics of it and i can see where it can get confusing and why there has been pushes to get the electoral college thrown out altogether.

but devious isn't too far off. if you don't live in a battleground state or a swing state does your vote really count? i am more than certain that my state will go to mccain so i have been wonder if there is any real point in me voting this year...

if you live in a state that always goes to a republican like most southern and mid-western states, or a democrat, like new york or other new england states, is there really much point in voting? your vote probably isn't going to make much of a difference.

 

[S O F I]

i think it is was actually 4 times in u.s. history the popular vote went to the person who did not win the electoral college vote, last time was in 2000. bush won both in '04. if obama does lose the electoral college in this election he think he will probably take the popular vote. and we could see more elections like that in the future.

the original design of the electoral college by the founders was to try and stop elections from being rigged and fraud elections in general (at least that is one of the more basic ideas of it that i have been told). when you look at it in that sense it is hard to argue that it doesn't work. although it is very confusing for people that don't understand the basics of it and i can see where it can get confusing and why there has been pushes to get the electoral college thrown out altogether.

but devious isn't too far off. if you don't live in a battleground state or a swing state does your vote really count? i am more than certain that my state will go to mccain so i have been wonder if there is any real point in me voting this year...

if you live in a state that always goes to a republican like most southern and mid-western states, or a democrat, like new york or other new england states, is there really much point in voting? your vote probably isn't going to make much of a difference.

Also, there was the whole thing about not believing the common people to make the right choice. In other words, it was believed they were too stupid to know who's a good candidate.

 

[PuffnScruff]

Also, there was the whole thing about not believing the common people to make the right choice. In other words, it was believed they were too stupid to know who's a good candidate.

lol yea, they were wise beyond their years. maybe even had a crystal ball? :laugh: they weren't too far off with that.

 

[Devious]

well at least you acknowledge that you live in a country where the leaders think you're too stupid to know what's best for you. and you missed the point SOFI. it's not how many times the electoral college has gone against the popular vote, it's the fact that they even have that option at all. i mean seriously, if it doesn't come down to the popular vote, then what is the point of voting in the first place? and why do they continuously mislead people into thinking it is the popular vote by telling everyone to get out and vote, every vote counts and all that crap? it's bullshit. and you call that democracy? that actually sounds closer to a closet dictatorship. let the people think they make a difference, while we stay in the back and call the real shots.

as for the topic, well i'm not gonna say i told you so... but i'm pretty sure i did