How many people here making music?
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Ok I will revamp that section and we can all talk about mastering in there.
FYI I mix in pro tools but master in wavelab.
FYI I mix in pro tools but master in wavelab.
lol a course to learn the basics? no.... i have a degree in audio, so that is many courses and labs. what you learned from asking people questions on message boards and playing around is a perfect example of the disimformation that is out there. i.e. people thinking that mastering is just layering two audio files on top of each other in their DAW.
no matter how much you might think you know from asking people questions you still dont know shit. you wouldn't know the first thing about signal flow, how to set up a studio, how to run a ssl9000j console, recording techniques, micing, what mics are good for what purposes, how to calibrate a tape machine, what speed of tape is best for what genre, how to load reels on a tape machine, how to record to tape, how to send the signal from the tape to a pro tools hd system, and the list goes on and on.
just remember this, i have worked in real studios. i've recorded with real musicians. i was an assistant enginner an a song which can be found on an album that was released this summer.
i just looked at the site. that is a dope plugin, i think was looking at that in my sweetwater catalog. i wish i had a tdm system, i only got LE right now.
i think you are right about what putting people off with pro tools. most people dont seem to understand the whole interface thing. the thing that i love about the digidesign company is they will buy back your old pro tools rig and let you upgrade. so i can exchange my mbox2 for the the new 003 rack for like 800 bucks. you can do that will all their stuff and eventually work your way up to a pro tools hd system.
Yeah Rahim, don't mess with Puffy's skillz or he'll hit you up with that chin of his, it's that lethal it's been banned in 43 states.
not me anymore, im to lazy, plus i cant record in an apartment to much noise. But im all for u guys doing all the leg work and me taking credit somewhere down the line for this.
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Well if you have a degree, then you had to start from the begining, so thats basically learning the basics too. I know theres more to mastering then laying two audio files on top of each other so don't assume that cuz i never said i didnt know i told u i do know.
And ofcourse I don't know how to use studio equipment because I haven't taken the course and i havnt had any experience in a studio. i use FL7, Sony Acid Pro, and a Yamaha DX-7. But I can still make good music that sounds good like u were in a studio. Someone told me its not what you use, its how you use it. And with FL, ive pretty much mastered the program besides having full control of the pitch bender and a few other things.
I don't care if you worked in a real studio or not, thats not the point. the point is don't assume things about me that u think u know but u really don't because its not true. anyone can work in a studio if they have the experience, and you do, so that's why you got that position. I know a lot about music just with what I'm using right now so if i did do what ur doing i'd get the same opporunity too so don't try and put me down like that and tell me i know nothing about mastering just cause u finished the degree...i can make music just as well as u can
That's true, it is cool that you can do that.
What are you up at the moment man? Are you doing anything music wise right now? You still in FL? We might be there later in the year as there is a vocalist there that my cousin and I want to work on a project with, he's a big time rock vocalist who's old band did a WWE theme song a couple years back. He lives in Orlando. If it all goes down we'll be hiring out some studios and laying some shit down, you'd be welcome to come down if you were in the area.
if you can actually read i used the layering two audio files as an example. so i was speaking in general not directly at you
while i would agree it is all about how you use what you have in front of you, any engineer, producer(not a bedroom producer like yourself), or musician will tell you that you can hear a difference between good quality studio music and using a computer will not much processing power
i'm telling you don't know anything about mastering because you can't master music with FL and ACID. there is much more to mastering that you even understand or think you know because you asked some questions. you think people just wake up one day and say "hey im going to become a mastering engineer and master records for artists. let me go buy fruity loops and a shitty DAW"
and here you are telling me that i'm assuming but you are doing a bit of assuming yourself in your posts
i'm not in florida anymore. i'm trying to look for work in nashville. if i had the money i would go to new york, atlanta, or l.a. but im low on funds at the moment. i did have an offer for an internship at an actors theatre running sound boards and doing sound design but i passed on that. i wouldn't get paid shit and i dont want to commit to something like that right now since their season is over in april, plus i'm still hoping to get this job for sweetwater(sweetwater.com), its a dope job they pays an ass load of money , plus they are building new facilities with state of the art studios being built by a world class studio designer, i forget his name, and their employees get to use them for free. i would get my hands on all the latest gear, equipment, and software that comes out. they sell nothing but top of the line high end stuff.
what song did your friend do with the wwe? it's funny i was trying to get a job with them too.
if you want some free studio time while you are in orlando, contact full sail's artists relations department. they give bands and artists free studio time everyday. the band i worked with recorded the bulk of their album, if not the entire album, in the week or two they were there.
Im a Music Producer out of San Diego. I have done music for Yukmouth, Jayo Felony, Knocturnal, Royce Da 5'9 among other folks. You can hear some of my beats at www.Slumpers.com . I also manage a t.v. show called The Grimmie Wreck T.v. Show. You can see clips of it at www.mygwtv.com Its an urban t.v. show out the westcoast
you can master music on sony acid pro and FL but sony acid pro is better because it gives you more freedom.
you were assuming that i dont know anything about mastering, theres a difference to that...i wasnt assuming that you dont know...what did i even "assume" about? show it to me....
lol look i'm not going to keep arguing with a crazy person. you can keep thinking all you want that you know what mastering is. but this statement "you can master music on sony acid pro and FL " just proves what i keep saying. you don't the first thing about mastering music. you don't know the process, you don't know what equipment is used, you don;t know how to do it, you don't know anything about mastering. you probably don't even understand what the nyquist theorem is.
you are an idiot, just leave it at that
Rahim - Puff is right on this one. There is always more to be learned in music, especially when it comes to engineering.
My cousins had been in the industry for over 15 years when, in 2002 they were asked to produce Shania Twain's album "Up!" which ended up doing over 20 million units. Shania's main producer and husband is a guy called Mutt Lange, who is one of the most legendary producers of all time (think AC/DC, Def Leppard, Bob Geldof, Bryan Adams).....anyway Mutt is known to be a perfectionist. This was one of the biggest scale albums EVER made in terms of the size of the project and the financial aspect, it had to be since her previous album "Come On Over" is the biggest selling album of all time by a female artist with at least 40 million sold at this point.
Anyway, when you're working on that scale, there are still things to be learned. The process was so meticulous that every single syllable that Shania sang was individually EQ'd. They lived with Shania and Mutt for over a year during the course of making the album, spending 15 hours a day in the studio almost every day, sometimes not seeing sunlight for days. When they came back, in terms of what they'd learned, it was a whole new ball game by this point. And they knew their shit beforehand - obviously they would have to, to be given that kind of task in the first place.
There are no set rules when it comes to music in any aspect. Especially engineering. No two people will have the same approach. Some producers, such as Steve Albini for example (who I was lucky enough to meet in a rehearsal studio in London), have an approach to recording, producing, mixing and mastering, that most people would consider to be completely bizarre and off-the-wall. But it's his sound and it works for what he is trying to achieve.
That's the problem with hip-hop production. Most people involved in making hip-hop music all think along the same lines when it comes to not just making the music, but the entire producing and engineering process. Hence why a lot of hip-hop sounds the same these days. There's not many risk takers, everyone wants to follow the book, and to be quite honest, even the greatest producers in hip-hop seem ordinary when you start to compare them to great producers in general and people who aren't afraid to think outside the box, such as Quincy Jones, Prince, Steve Albini, Mutt Lange, Flood, Tony Visconti......
Are you living in Nashville right now? I'll keep my ear to the street if I hear of anything going on there. My cousin may have some contacts there through Shania but it would most likely be country music studios etc.
That sounds dope about the sweetwater thing, good luck with that man, really hope you can get in there! Sounds like a great opportunity.
They did the theme songs for the wrestlers Maven Huffman and Randy Orton, I forget the names but I've seen the songs on those WWE compilation music CD's in the shops, even over here in the UK.
Thanks for the tip about studio time! Could you possibly hit me up with a PM with a contact number or something? That would be excellent.
Im sorry but I have to agree with some of the others, but not harshly. What youre doing is mixing, Acid Pro is a multitracker that mixes track, it isnt really suited for mastering which is an overall process.
Acid Pro multitracks like Pro Tools which I use, the first step of mastering per say is mixing and mastering each individual track, which I do in PT and you do in AP.
However, there is more to mastering than just that, and I use wavelab for the next steps, AP or FL just does not cut it.
Guys, while I have your attention, anyone fucking with Vocalign Audiosuite for Pro Tools? Ive got a warez version of 2.8 installed but everytime I select it from Pro Tools Audiosuite it just shuts the PT down straight away. Anyone have better luck with it?
Ill post it for those interested, I want to make a thread in there for audio apps for people that wants to test before they buy
Ill post it for those interested, I want to make a thread in there for audio apps for people that wants to test before they buy
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