This is my thread

Watch it with the sound off. Much better. Making sweet'n'sour pork with rice. chea chea.

https://nypost.com/video/cardi-b-fu...-election-result-as-trump-emerges-victorious/

The media lied to us again telling us Kamala had any chance and these out of touch celebrities don't even know why so many people voted for The Orange Man. Out of touch. They live on private jets. When was the last time Cardi B went to a grocery store to buy food for a growing family? Just saying.

I bet the two failed assassins really regret their stupid decisions now. It's insult to injury to know that one of them is known to have been a victim of a fake persona and recruiting people to fight in Ukraine. The retard would be a clown of the year if the situation in Ukraine wasn't so tragic. Fake persona. Ha ha
 
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I don't remember many other challengers to Biden, other than Harris, who eventually became his VP.

I don't know if what I said makes sense, but basically both parties trotted out one option each and voters were forced to choose between the two. I know, that's how elections work, you have a party nominee and they face off. It feels like the Dems skipped all the other steps leading up to choosing a nomination and that left voters, rightfully, ignorant to the party's goals and visions for the future.

I think some Dem voters voted for the party and others wanted a change and went ol' Donnie boy.
Yeah, you're not wrong. Biden, and those around him, needed to assess the wisdom of having him run again early on. She had like 110 days to campaign. Only political junkies like me really knew her. She got like 10-15 million less votes than Biden in 2020, and they didn't go to Trump. Those people just didn't vote. I think Biden got so many votes because everyone blamed the pandemic on Trump and they wanted change. Now, just the prospect of another Trump presidency wasn't enough to get as many Dems out. Plus, the attack ads on her were effective. Young progressives hated the administration because of the Palestinians, so they stayed away. But for Trump voters, the last election was stolen, as far as they were concerned, and they've been waiting 4 years for payback.

"They're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs" proved a more effective message than "let me help you buy your house."

Dems are going to need someone with a proven track record of defeating Trumpism. It has to Biden in 2028. :D
 
Biden ‘rushing’ billions in aid to Ukraine as Trump win fuels uncertainty

Wow, Trump is so bad.

What the Democrats need is



American liberalism needs a major overhaul and it needs it from the ground up. The change will not come from the existing status quo.

PEACE
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I read that this was the third election in a row where the polls grossly underestimated Trump voters.

I also saw that Nate Silver, who called 2016 accurately, gave up on his model before the end of the night. I forgot his reasoning but it was something about not being able to account for the changes that were taking place as polls were closing.

There's an underlying issue with a lot of voters that the media doesn't seem to want to talk about. And voters don't want to either as they may be lying about who they are voting for. And I don't think this election addressed that issue and it likely won't fix it.

I'm keeping an eye on who or what gets blamed for this one. The top two candidates seem to be men and also white women. :cool:
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
I'm keeping an eye on who or what gets blamed for this one. The top two candidates seem to be men and also white women. :cool:
Other candidates are:
1. He did Joe Rogan, she didn't.
2. She should have picked Shapiro for VP instead of Waltz
3. Biden shouldn't have called them garbage.
4. Elon's army of crypto incels activated
5. Russia did something
6. The Gaza slaughter did it

Some of those played some part, but the main reason she lost seems to me straightforward. Those voters who don’t follow news closely, don’t show up at every election, i.e., most, were still pissed about high prices and/or the border, which is sort of the post-pandemic effect that has taken down incumbents all over the world. Biden's ratings were already low and then Harris comes in and had 100 days to introduce herself to the country, and that was just not enough for the majority who barely pay attention to politics. And perhaps voting for a black woman was a non-starter for some in white rural areas or among some Hispanics. Also, Harris seeming to lean to the left of Joe on some issues didn't help with the moderate Dem base. They, like MAGA, are also sick of gender identity issues, trans men in women sports, new pronouns, students trashing college campuses because of some cause they've taken a fetish to, anti-racist Tanasi Coates shit, all of which the Biden Admin didn't speak out against but indulged, not wanting to alienate any cohort in their coalition, thinking that was the future of the Party and where the votes were.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Other candidates are:
1. He did Joe Rogan, she didn't.
2. She should have picked Shapiro for VP instead of Waltz
3. Biden shouldn't have called them garbage.
4. Elon's army of crypto incels activated
5. Russia did something
6. The Gaza slaughter did it

Some of those played some part, but the main reason she lost seems to me straightforward. Those voters who don’t follow news closely, don’t show up at every election, i.e., most, were still pissed about high prices and/or the border, which is sort of the post-pandemic effect that has taken down incumbents all over the world. Biden's ratings were already low and then Harris comes in and had 100 days to introduce herself to the country, and that was just not enough for the majority who barely pay attention to politics. And perhaps voting for a black woman was a non-starter for some in white rural areas or among some Hispanics. Also, Harris seeming to lean to the left of Joe on some issues didn't help with the moderate Dem base. They, like MAGA, are also sick of gender identity issues, trans men in women sports, new pronouns, students trashing college campuses because of some cause they've taken a fetish to, anti-racist Tanasi Coates shit, all of which the Biden Admin didn't speak out against but indulged, not wanting to alienate any cohort in their coalition, thinking that was the future of the Party and where the votes were.
Yeah, I can agree with all of that. I don't want a transperson assaulted or killed. I don't want them barred from 99% of things (athletics, I think they should put all trans people in one league). But I find the strong-arming of choosing a bathroom, being coddled in professional settings, etc. to be a red flag. And it's not always them that's concerning but those who support them, tooth and nail. Like they aren't human and that they can do no wrong.

Same thing with the women's healthcare stuff, including abortion. I will always value the living woman over the embryo/fetus/child. If she's at risk or just doesn't want the kid, end the pregnancy. But boy some of the pro-choice women give off vibes like they get knocked up and get abortions for fun and someone is coming to take their sense of joy away from them, the way they push for it. Like coming for a Republican's guns. The reaction is what makes it all so suspect.

I have read people say that the Dems ignored the middle class. Could be. I've been hearing about its disappearance since I was in middle school in the early 2000s after Dubya's first term.

Both sides seemed to have ignored the moderates. Their bread and butter has been segregating the public to extremes and hoping they segregated the right amount to their side in order to win an election.

I also heard what you listed as the first reason. Rogan is an odd man. He loves money and I am sure that swayed who he "endorsed." I don't think either candidate had anything to lose by going on his show, though. Their job was not to convince Rogan but instead to make their final cases to one of the most popular podcasts out there. I don't think Trump won because of it, but I do think Harris would have at least introduced her policy to people that may have otherwise been ignorant to it. If she gained support from there, it would have been small, but it would have been something. As you said, there are 100 reasons people are giving for her loss/his win. Some of them are valid. Had Harris done the "small shit" like an appearance on Rogan and a few other big name podcasts, I think it would have added up to at least be a closer race.

Silver lining? Dems don't seem to be as vulnerable to voting along party lines and switching parties if need be. Republicans? Eh, the numbers don't show a lot of open-mindedness on that front.

I wonder what @masta247 is going to do for his tech when these tariffs inevitably hit lol

I think I am good on tech for a few years and I'm praying none of my parts take a shit on me in a few years.
 

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