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masta247

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I think boundaries and immigration programs are important. But some countries like the USA overdo it by a lot. In Canada, each province has its immigration programs and how many do I see not contributing to the economy yet using up all the possible social assistance programs they can benefit from. Not that I'm generalizing because not every immigrant does it, but there are who do. And immigration programs should be able to get all these people to work. I'm all for social programs, but not abusively, and especially not when you just got here and stay on it for years just because you can and because it probably gives you more $ than if you worked full time on a minimum wage job. I work my ass off, so should they. Rant finished. lol
I agree. That's why I think the programs don't really work well enough. The rules are pretty bad. There are people who would like to move there and work and contribute to the country, move because they like the culture/place/people. but the governments make it really hard.
Then there are people who move there to reap benefits - usually to do low-level work or later no work at all - paradoxially the laws make it much more appealing for them, and it's easier for them to move there. These people are also willing to make more effort to take advantage of these programs because moving to the US/Canada would make a huge positive difference for them.
Skilled people often say "fuck it", because of how long it takes and how complicated the governments make it for them, and they are often doing serious work already in their countries.

As an example most Canadian federal and provincial programs (including the most popular "Skilled worker" program) require you to have a job offer in order to be allowed in to work. Obviously it's rather easy if you're applying for work nobody wants to do there (truck drivers are the latest hype in Canada amongst immigrants). These employers would just hire any foreigner who sends in his poorly written CV because they need people. So these people just have to take the job offer to the embassy, wait for a year or two and they become permanent residents there. This pretty much attracts the uneducated crowd that's willing to do any work just to get there and then perhaps reap benefits once they lose or quit the job.

If you're a skilled professional applying for job in your field, however, nobody in Canada or USA would hire you without seeing you first, which is normal - you need to be there for the interview etc. If you're one of these people, if you're really a skilled worker it gets very complicated. Basically you have to ditch your job in your home country and go there to look for work on a freaking tourist visa, if you're lucky enough to find a company that's willing to hire a person who's yet to go through the long process of getting the work permit you have to go back to your own country with the job offer, take it to the embassy and wait for about 13-20 months until you're given a work permit (that is granted the company will wait for you for those XX months). I think it's ridiculous and pretty much repels skilled workers.
You can get lucky and plan well and you can use different programs not really the way they were meant to be used to make it easier and still legal (for example temporary work permits until you're there long enough to apply for permanent residency), but personally I think it's just not the way it should be. Really skilled workers just wouldn't want to take the risk and go through all the hassle.

I like Canada, I though it might be a great idea to stay there for a while, so I took time to read in detail about every federal and provincial program and I became frustrated with how silly each single way to get there is, even though their programs are still way better than the American ones. But even with that in mind I concluded that I'd just have to get married there to make it easy, or ditch the corporate work and work as a store clerk in a random store that's bad enough to offer job to a random person without seeing him first, and I'm not going to do either of those.
 

S O F I

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there was a lot of attractive women, that's for sure. it helps it was spring break. while i was at the dopehouse, I saw this white girl come up to this young black dude who I think might have been SL Jones but then every black dude at sxsw looked like a rapper. like 2 minutes later, she's got her phone out tryin to get dude's digits. hit-boy was there and no one seemed to give a shit.
 

Pittsey

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Jesus man, read to your child yourself!
You should know me well enough to know that I put my child's development very high on my list. Of course I read to him on a daily basis. I also have him read to me, as I have done since he was 2 years old. Because of this he is streets ahead in his development and operates 2 grades higher than his peers...

I wanted them for the car, as Coonie said. He really enjoys the Roald Dahl books when I read to him, and thought it would be nice when we do long journeys, which we quite often do. His favourite bands are Nirvana, RHCP and The Beatles. He also likes Kanye West. But... I wanted to take a break from the same albums, so thought an audiobook would be good.

Defence rests. :)
 

ARon

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I saw a reddit post the other day of some random dude in canada who went and put flowers on the grave of some guys great uncle or some shit and you wont even dl that shit for him? why you gonna be a doctor if you're not trying to help people? bitch lol
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Because he will not die if he does not get Roald Dahl audiobooks.


You know why I'm becoming a doctor. I've become accustomed to a certain lifestyle. ;)
 

Pittsey

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