False Hope

[Shadows]

I love the idea of cheering someone on because I believe no one should be sad, depressed, angry, or anything negative.

I however, don't agree with giving someone false hope.

I constantly see it on twitter, facebook, instagram, etc... and bigger world problems, but for now, we will talk about social networks.

I believe that everyone generally has good in them to help others, but that's what leads to a problem.

.....It's that sense of urgency to solve a friends problem quickly.

We see they have goals:

"I wanna be a model" (but they are ugly and taking pix using instagram) and probably neglecting a true talent, like maybe, being an artist.

What i'm saying is, I think giving someone false hope really is damaging society and being there for someone to TRULY help them would be better.

I think today's general outlook on life is people are all about themselves. No one truly has discipline to work toward a realistic goal they set for themselves.

In saying this, I do believe and know that there are people who are under-dogs that go out in the world and make small imagination and drive, push toward something all of their peers thought unimaginable.

I'm trying to look at the cup as half full, but i'm also realistic...

Giving hope, good or bad?

 

[Jokerman]

Do you think preachers and others, who say everything is possible with god, are giving people false hope?

 

[dilla]

Do you think preachers and others, who say everything is possible with god, are giving people false hope?

I don't have a full argument for this, but I think they tack on a "if you fail, it wasn't meant to be. God has bigger, better things for you," at the end. For those who look for inspiration through God, religion, etc., it may still be motivation to continue to persevere with their aspirations.

I don't think using God and/or religion is really sugar-coating the truth, or at least it isn't intended to be. It's more for motivation.

What I think the question here is, is if a fat, acne-faced person posts pictures on Facebook claiming they're "beautiful" and want to be a model, and their friends continue to praise the person, even when it probably won't happen, unless Proactive is looking for a testimony, then I think it's wrong.

We had a discussion on here the other day about small-talk. To me, that's sugar-coating an awkward situation. In the elevator, when you're passing by someone.... I'd much rather it be awkward than sugar-coat the awkwardness with "man, that exam was tough, huh?" just to pass the time.

I think people that have to do small-talk with others regularly can not handle being alone, which a very bad thing. If have to say something other than "hi" or so much more than a head-nod when they see someone but don't know what to say but have to say something, they're gonna be the same ones upset when someone doesn't say much in an isolated incident, and make a big deal out of it.

Source: it happened to me.

I couldn't help but be reminded of this:

 

[keco52]

Everyone has different goals. Maybe being a model isn't a realistic goal but it depends on what they want to accomplish. Maybe they just want their face to be seen. They want popularity. In that sense they have accomplished their goals. Ppl judge others based on their own definition of success. See where I'm going? Live and let live and all those other overused cliches.

 

[S O F I]

I don't have a strong opinion on the matter. Sure, it kind of annoys me when people are delusional but my insecurities prohibit me from pointing it out.

 

[Da_Funk]

Shadows, you don't post for the better part of a year and you come back this pseudo-philosophical non sense?

Figure it out man.

 

[Da_Funk]

We had a discussion on here the other day about small-talk. To me, that's sugar-coating an awkward situation. In the elevator, when you're passing by someone.... I'd much rather it be awkward than sugar-coat the awkwardness with "man, that exam was tough, huh?" just to pass the time.

I think people that have to do small-talk with others regularly can not handle being alone, which a very bad thing. If have to say something other than "hi" or so much more than a head-nod when they see someone but don't know what to say but have to say something, they're gonna be the same ones upset when someone doesn't say much in an isolated incident, and make a big deal out of it.

I disagree with this whole-heartedly. People who can't make small-talk tend to be awkard, or loners in my experience. Just because you don't know someone well doesn't mean you cannot be friendly towards them. If you feel that you can't be friendly towards someone unless you know them, well, that action says more about who you are then any amount of words can.

 

[dilla]

I disagree with this whole-heartedly. People who can't make small-talk tend to be awkard, or loners in my experience. Just because you don't know someone well doesn't mean you cannot be friendly towards them. If you feel that you can't be friendly towards someone unless you know them, well, that action says more about who you are then any amount of words can.

This has nothing to do with whether you know someone or not. What I'm talking about is routine small talk. Routine being the key word. People you see everyday. Where, normally, a nod of the head or a simple "hi" would suffice, but some people make you stop and small-talk with them, even though they know they have nothing to important or something of substance to say.

I have no problem talking with strangers. Most of the time it ends up being small-talk, which may lead to something bigger like realizing a shared hobby or something.

Again, I am talking about acquaintances you cross in the halls or on campus. Classmates, colleagues, etc. A "hi," smile, or nod is fine unless something has to be said. Not many people care how you found your exam or "how's studying going?" to ask casually when passing by.

I feel I might not be expressing this properly. It's something that happens to me personally at school.

 

[Jokerman]

People who can't make small-talk tend to be awkard, or loners in my experience.

Why can't one be both?

 

[Rukas]

Better false hope than no hope.

(Havent read OP).

 

[Shadows]

I don't have a strong opinion on the matter. Sure, it kind of annoys me when people are delusional but my insecurities prohibit me from pointing it out.

So, you're saying if you were (more) good looking or (more) successful than you are now, you would look down on others? Why not just point it out now? Isn't that sort of limiting yourself?

Shadows, you don't post for the better part of a year and you come back this pseudo-philosophical non sense?

Figure it out man.

Just got a new laptop and had my arm broken. I Like streethop, but it don't make me money, feel me? and someone requested i make my outlandish threads to spark activity here, because no one makes em. Whether stupid or not, it's always a question that people might have different opinions on...to have discussions, whether or not if there is a correct answer.

Do you think preachers and others, who say everything is possible with god, are giving people false hope?

No. "Everything is possible with God" can be intrepreted in so many ways.

Someone can take it as "if i pray and believe, it will happen" (thus doing nothing about it, relying on what may or may not exist) ....which the Bible says, is the wrong way to go about things. Lethargy.

Some can take it as "if i try and achieve and believe in God's help, i will succeed" (trying with that extra hope)

That TYPE of extra hope doesn't hurt, because they are going about what they're doing or not doing anyway.

Giving someone the TYPE of hope to continue doing something that wasn't meant for them is completely different, and i fear, damaging to society.

When typical teenage Americans are dreaming up and trying to find ways to be famous, other children are dreaming up ways to better the world, their culture, or something business wise for their, and their families future.

 

[S O F I]

No, that's not quite what I'm saying. I don't equate constructive criticism with looking down on others. I think in today's culture, there's no room for negative opinions. If you're not telling someone that "they can do it!" or "you're awesome", you're a hater and not being helpful. As the result, no one can take it. They try to point out your own supposed faults to connect them to the feedback. So, in the end, you're better off just not saying shit.

 

[dilla]

No, that's not quite what I'm saying. I don't equate constructive criticism with looking down on others. I think in today's culture, there's no room for negative opinions. If you're not telling someone that "they can do it!" or "you're awesome", you're a hater and not being helpful. As the result, no one can take it. They try to point out your own supposed faults to connect them to the feedback. So, in the end, you're better off just not saying shit.

Nodding and smiling. Your rebuttal to anyone's question questioning their beauty, talent, etc. should just be "what do you think?" or "I'm not going to answer that question" with a smile.

There's a girl who used to be friends with a good friend of mine. She is so insecure, she can not bring herself to stop talking to him, despite all the shitty things he's done to her in an attempt to get her to leave him alone. In his defense, in addition to being insecure as fuck this girl is also a grade-A cunt. So no one cares for her. But she came up to us the other day and as another girl walked by (who has big-ass tittes) she passed a comment.

*girl walks by*
Me: Oh, looks, it's K*****
Insecure bitch: Oh, she's pretty.

We're all in the same class. No shit she's pretty. We've been together for two semesters.

This statement came after another incidence in which she came up to us guys when we were sitting down and asked "who do you think the prettiest girl in our class is?" She also asked my good friend what he thought was "the best aspect of her body, her tits or her ass."

Her ass is as flat as a table, but she does have decent pair on her. But a shit personality really just makes her the most undesirable girl in our class.

She has gotten the hint a bit recently and stopped talking to us with her stupid inquisitions and all. But we're all waiting for the day she asks us another one of her questions fueled by her insecurities so we can reply with a brutally honest answer to just shut her up for good.

I gave her the nickname "Toucan Sam" because of her beak-nose. That's another bad trait of hers.

 

[Da_Funk]

Why can't one be both?

But I don't think coonie was talking about not being able to make small talk. He's talking about those coons who always need to be talking about nothing around someone and expect everyone else to be as dysfunctional and lacking of inner resources as themselves. If you have nothing to say to someone, don't proceed to say it. A nod or a hi acknowledged you. Now chill the fuck out and let me chill.

Yeah.. but even then I still went along with those people. You never know who's assignment/lab/term paper/whatever is due next class you'll need to reference.

 

[S O F I]

and that is one of the reasons i dislike small talk. cause it's fake. and you proved why. if you're friendly because you're thinking that long term i could be of use, you can suck it.

 

[dilla]

and that is one of the reasons i dislike small talk. cause it's fake. and you proved why. if you're friendly because you're thinking that long term i could be of use, you can suck it.

The people with whom I am best friends with have been the ones that have restored faith in humanity for me. After seeing shitty people doing shitty things to one another, it's nice to hear a friend tell you that they trust you or enjoy talking to you because "I can share anything with you, and know nothing will get out and also that you'll understand what I'm going through." That's the way a friendship should be. I know you can't be like that with everyone, but if you're on the polar-end and are expecting a friendship/trust/benefits like what I just mentioned from someone you say "hi" to casually in the hallway and with the hopes of someday getting some use from then, then you're just a fucking cum-stain.

How do you drown a coon in a pool?

Pop his coon-lips.

 

[Jokerman]

Everyone I say hi to in the hallway eventually does my bidding. (what hallway?)

 

[Da_Funk]

So, you're saying if you were (more) good looking or (more) successful than you are now, you would look down on others? Why not just point it out now? Isn't that sort of limiting yourself?

Just got a new laptop and had my arm broken. I Like streethop, but it don't make me money, feel me? and someone requested i make my outlandish threads to spark activity here, because no one makes em. Whether stupid or not, it's always a question that people might have different opinions on...to have discussions, whether or not if there is a correct answer.

No. "Everything is possible with God" can be intrepreted in so many ways.

Someone can take it as "if i pray and believe, it will happen" (thus doing nothing about it, relying on what may or may not exist) ....which the Bible says, is the wrong way to go about things. Lethargy.

Some can take it as "if i try and achieve and believe in God's help, i will succeed" (trying with that extra hope)

That TYPE of extra hope doesn't hurt, because they are going about what they're doing or not doing anyway.

Giving someone the TYPE of hope to continue doing something that wasn't meant for them is completely different, and i fear, damaging to society.

When typical teenage Americans are dreaming up and trying to find ways to be famous, other children are dreaming up ways to better the world, their culture, or something business wise for their, and their families future.

LOL. I love it.

 

[Da_Funk]

and that is one of the reasons i dislike small talk. cause it's fake. and you proved why. if you're friendly because you're thinking that long term i could be of use, you can suck it.

Meh. It is what it is.

 

[Flipmo]