To those not in the US...

[Casey]

A couple of libreal, progressive, urban cities doesn't change the fact that the majority of America is ignorant and racist.

You know what though? Everyone outside the major cities in England is even more ignorant and racist. Plus, the institutional racism is 100x worse here, because the same rich white families have been in control of everything for hundreds of years before the US even existed. Even our current Prime Minister, David "Douchebag" Cameron went to the same school as Prince William and is a descendent of 17th century royalty.

Go outside of London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool as a minority in England, and you're digging your own grave. I've lived outside of a major city for 5 years (not by choice) and it was hell. Neo-Nazi's and National Front all over the place. Getting called both "Paki" and "N!gger" in the street because they couldn't figure out what I was. One of my cousins went to a sleepy coastal town up north less than an hour away from where he lives, went to a fish&chip shop and was told "We don't serve your kind in here"... and this was just 2 years ago.

So, overall I'd much rather live in the US because there are LOADS of forward-thinking, progressive cities that I'd be perfectly comfortable in. I've spent a great deal of time in LA, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Eugene, Portland, and short periods of time in San Diego, Seattle, Tacoma, New York, Atlanta and I'd live in any of those places. I have friends in Minneapolis, Miami, Philly, and South Carolina and I know I'd be comfortable in any of those places too.

I'd totally live in Canada though too. Vancouver is one of my favorite cities, I would live there. I love Toronto too but I couldn't live there cos of the weather in the winter, lol.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^wow, the second paragraph there is pretty fucked up.

i have heard that there were signs in pubs in Birmingham (i think) saying "no dogs, no Irish" during the 90s. is that true? did you ever see anything like that? im aware that the Irish that went to London during the 80s and 90s got their fair share of shit over there. Being called terrorists and discriminated against. although the IRA certainly didnt help matters in that regard i must admit.

 

[Pittsey]

^^wow, the second paragraph there is pretty fucked up.

i have heard that there were signs in pubs in Birmingham (i think) saying "no dogs, no Irish" during the 90s. is that true? did you ever see anything like that? im aware that the Irish that went to London during the 80s and 90s got their fair share of shit over there. Being called terrorists and discriminated against. although the IRA certainly didnt help matters in that regard i must admit.

My Nan was Irish. And I don't remember her getting any shit as far as I can remember. But I do remember my Dad talking once, saying that most people thought she was Scottish, and she didn't correct them, as she didn't want any abuse.

Personally, I don't think the IRA were ever fighting for a cause. It was mostly an underworld crew, not a liberation army. But I never discriminated against the Irish. When I was in Vietnam I was hanging out with some Irish girls. I do like the accent. Although she also told me the London accent was her favourite. I think it sounds like shit.

I think I must live in an amazing part of the UK. As I haven't seen hardly any racism. And mostly it's between ethnic groups. Such as the Sikh, Muslim shit that was very, very prevalent in my teen years.

You know what though? Everyone outside the major cities in England is even more ignorant and racist. Plus, the institutional racism is 100x worse here, because the same rich white families have been in control of everything for hundreds of years before the US even existed. Even our current Prime Minister, David "Douchebag" Cameron went to the same school as Prince William and is a descendent of 17th century royalty.

Go outside of London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool as a minority in England, and you're digging your own grave. I've lived outside of a major city for 5 years (not by choice) and it was hell. Neo-Nazi's and National Front all over the place. Getting called both "Paki" and "N!gger" in the street because they couldn't figure out what I was. One of my cousins went to a sleepy coastal town up north less than an hour away from where he lives, went to a fish&chip shop and was told "We don't serve your kind in here"... and this was just 2 years ago.

So, overall I'd much rather live in the US because there are LOADS of forward-thinking, progressive cities that I'd be perfectly comfortable in. I've spent a great deal of time in LA, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Eugene, Portland, and short periods of time in San Diego, Seattle, Tacoma, New York, Atlanta and I'd live in any of those places. I have friends in Minneapolis, Miami, Philly, and South Carolina and I know I'd be comfortable in any of those places too.

I'd totally live in Canada though too. Vancouver is one of my favorite cities, I would live there. I love Toronto too but I couldn't live there cos of the weather in the winter, lol.

I went to Blackpool once with a Hindu friend of mine. Someone called him a paki. We were like "Wooooah". It was shocking. I couldn't believe someone would say that to his face. It was wrong. He was hard as fuck, as well. Champion kick boxer. Luckily he was a nice guy. He just took it in his stride. I mean, I called him paki, as he called me honkey. But it was friendly banter. I actually knew the guy.

I then realised a lot of northerners lacked an education.

 

[Flipmo]

Its no different from here in Canada. I'm in Montreal which like uber liberal, and Quebec city is also quite forward thinking, but you go to the smaller towns, if you speak English they look at you like an animal. I was actually once called a dirty immigrant. lol. It was pretty funny to be honest.

It's like that in most countries though. Small towns breed small minds, at most times.

 

[UK_Thug]

Go outside of London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool as a minority in England, and you're digging your own grave. I've lived outside of a major city for 5 years (not by choice) and it was hell. Neo-Nazi's and National Front all over the place. Getting called both "Paki" and "N!gger" in the street because they couldn't figure out what I was. One of my cousins went to a sleepy coastal town up north less than an hour away from where he lives, went to a fish&chip shop and was told "We don't serve your kind in here"... and this was just 2 years ago.

parts of the UK are now the opposite too- i was picking up some rims i bought off ebay and entered an 'asian area'. i pulled over to an asian guy to ask for directions, and the answer i got was "No whites". he stood there and stared/glared at me til i left.

 

[Duke]

The rest of the world views the US as having the best culture, as it's a mix of everything else from around the world, and then some.

lmmfao

 

[Pittsey]

parts of the UK are now the opposite too- i was picking up some rims i bought off ebay and entered an 'asian area'. i pulled over to an asian guy to ask for directions, and the answer i got was "No whites". he stood there and stared/glared at me til i left.

Ha Ha. I enter areas that are predominantly asian quite a bit. Never had that. I probably would have started a row.

 

[Casey]

^^wow, the second paragraph there is pretty fucked up.

i have heard that there were signs in pubs in Birmingham (i think) saying "no dogs, no Irish" during the 90s. is that true? did you ever see anything like that? im aware that the Irish that went to London during the 80s and 90s got their fair share of shit over there. Being called terrorists and discriminated against. although the IRA certainly didnt help matters in that regard i must admit.

Yep - certain parts of Birmingham were definitely VERY anti-Irish. Mostly because of the IRA bombings that happened here. The Birmingham Pub Bombings. One of the places that was bombed is now called "The Yard of Ale" pub and I walk past it every time I go to the city centre. Terrible history there.

parts of the UK are now the opposite too- i was picking up some rims i bought off ebay and entered an 'asian area'. i pulled over to an asian guy to ask for directions, and the answer i got was "No whites". he stood there and stared/glared at me til i left.

Oh, absolutely. Where I live is predominantly Asian and Black and always has been, but we're a liberal area so that kind of stuff doesn't happen here. But there are places in Birmingham, literally just a few miles away, where people would act like what you described. I won't even go to those places. Not that I ever have any reason to.

The difference though, is those places are very small suburbs, in contrast to, well, more than 80% of the country being outside of any major city or town and being incredibly racist.

I went to Blackpool once with a Hindu friend of mine. Someone called him a paki. We were like "Wooooah". It was shocking. I couldn't believe someone would say that to his face. It was wrong. He was hard as fuck, as well. Champion kick boxer. Luckily he was a nice guy. He just took it in his stride. I mean, I called him paki, as he called me honkey. But it was friendly banter. I actually knew the guy.

I then realised a lot of northerners lacked an education.

Yeah, for sure. The North is horrible. I never go further north than Birmingham if I can help it. I only ever travel south to London. Only place worth visiting if you don't already live there lol.

 

[Bobby Sands]

]Yep - certain parts of Birmingham were definitely VERY anti-Irish. Mostly because of the IRA bombings that happened here. The Birmingham Pub Bombings. One of the places that was bombed is now called "The Yard of Ale" pub and I walk past it every time I go to the city centre. Terrible history there.
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Oh, absolutely. Where I live is predominantly Asian and Black and always has been, but we're a liberal area so that kind of stuff doesn't happen here. But there are places in Birmingham, literally just a few miles away, where people would act like what you described. I won't even go to those places. Not that I ever have any reason to.

The difference though, is those places are very small suburbs, in contrast to, well, more than 80% of the country being outside of any major city or town and being incredibly racist.



Yeah, for sure. The North is horrible. I never go further north than Birmingham if I can help it. I only ever travel south to London. Only place worth visiting if you don't already live there lol.

well tbh i can understand that to an extent. you wont get many right minded irish people who would agree with bombing and killing innocent people, especially since the irish for the most part had a good relationship with working class english. the problem was with the british govenment and monarchy. that said people shouldnt have painted all Irish with same brush either.

dont forget that the IRA killed alot of their own as well and in recent times have pretty much become a criminal organisation.

i agree with the original cause of the IRA to fight to remove British rule, gain independence and later on to fight against the oppression of Catholic in the north and to gain a United Ireland. I have great respect and admiration for great men like Michael Collins. i make no secret of that.

However, as i stated already, i condemn how the Provisional IRA went about it. i.e killing innocent people including many of their own and the present day IRA are a disgrace and an insult to great men who fought for the freedom of Ireland and Irish people in the past. all they are is a gang like the other side up there.

yesterday, an 8 year old school kid in a catholic school found a pipe bomb on the school grounds. sickening. shows you what kind of animals are up there.

 

[Bobby Sands]

My Nan was Irish. And I don't remember her getting any shit as far as I can remember. But I do remember my Dad talking once, saying that most people thought she was Scottish, and she didn't correct them, as she didn't want any abuse.

Personally, I don't think the IRA were ever fighting for a cause. It was mostly an underworld crew, not a liberation army. But I never discriminated against the Irish. When I was in Vietnam I was hanging out with some Irish girls. I do like the accent. Although she also told me the London accent was her favourite. I think it sounds like shit.

I think I must live in an amazing part of the UK. As I haven't seen hardly any racism. And mostly it's between ethnic groups. Such as the Sikh, Muslim shit that was very, very prevalent in my teen years.





I went to Blackpool once with a Hindu friend of mine. Someone called him a paki. We were like "Wooooah". It was shocking. I couldn't believe someone would say that to his face. It was wrong. He was hard as fuck, as well. Champion kick boxer. Luckily he was a nice guy. He just took it in his stride. I mean, I called him paki, as he called me honkey. But it was friendly banter. I actually knew the guy.

I then realised a lot of northerners lacked an education.

I just have a normal irish accent which is good. The Dublin accent is good imo. i like it.

its the same in England. i really like most english accents but the northern Newcastle one is just vile. Cheryl COle's accent i mean. it puts me off her completely.

 

[_carmi]

Its no different from here in Canada. I'm in Montreal which like uber liberal, and Quebec city is also quite forward thinking, but you go to the smaller towns, if you speak English they look at you like an animal. I was actually once called a dirty immigrant. lol. It was pretty funny to be honest.

It's like that in most countries though. Small towns breed small minds, at most times.

I make it a point to speak in English when I go to smaller towns. I find it funny. I get dirty looks and all.

 

[Ristol]

And Leprechauns with pots of gold.

Are we gonna have problems, sucka?

 

[Bobby Sands]

Pittsey likes to fish i think

 

[dilla]

lmmfao

Don't be sad the Dutch have nothing outside of wooden shoes.

 

[S O F I]

Greenwich Comedy Festival 2010,Silent Disco tickets - Old Royal Naval College (London) on 10th September 2010. Check ticket availability and price

I want me some silent disco tix.

 

[Casey]

/\ Silent Disco is amazing. I went to the Silent Disco tent at Glastonbury a few years ago, trippy as hell but great fun.

 

[Pittsey]

I have been meaning to go to Glasto. Although I hate slumming it. And not for the music. But for the performing arts. Meant to be top notch.

 

[ArtsyGirl]

Don't be sad the Dutch have nothing outside of wooden shoes.

NOT TRUE!! They have cheese.. And windmills!!

 

[THEV1LL4N]

NOT TRUE!! They have cheese.. And windmills!!

they also have Esmée Denters.

<3

 

[stefanwzyga]

they also have Esmée Denters.

<3

And weed cafes.