Here comes another 20 page thread because Casey is too narrow minded to concede that something may be different than he thinks. 
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The powered supplements are making me sick.
The main source for protein for vegetarians is lentils, beans, peas, etc etc. I posted about this a LOT in the other threads because it has been something I have been doing for a year.
Its stopped working for me, Ive topped out so to speak. Im burning weight quicker than I put it on.
Perhaps if I was some pale hippy that sits at home it would be fine, but right now Im boxing and going to the gym three times a week. So I am pretty active and Im just burning weight and losing muscle.
Im not going to eat eight different types of beans and lentils 10 times a day. I dont have the time to do that.
My blood work shows I am missing Vitamin B12 as well.
Im not risking my body and health.
Like I said, if I lived a boring lifestyle, wanted to be thin, and just SUSTAINED, a vegetarian diet is fine.
If I wanted to build using steroids, a vegetarian diet is fine.
But Im not doing either of those.
This is my body and my lifestyle, no know-it-all on a forum who doesnt know me or my life can fucking pass judgement on what I should do to stay healthy.
Right now I am eating chicken breast (high in protein) two or three times a week according to training and we will see how it goes. Ill then try to cut back if I can, or perhaps it more if need be.
Oh, another thing you should take into account. Most vegetarian diets are high carb and low protein. This leads to FAT building and not muscle.
Deny it all you want, but these are cold hard SCIENTIFIC facts, Casey.
Deny it all you want, but these are cold hard SCIENTIFIC facts, Casey.
A vegetarian based diet is healthier than a meat eaters. That's a fact. I have no idea what the fuck you were doing to become unhealthy but the vast majority of vegetarians will tell you that they become healthier as a result.
No. Vegetarianism IS a lifestyle. You can eat a diet without meat and still not be a vegetarian, if you are still wearing fur, leather, etc. The definition of being a vegetarian extends past the diet.
Explain what I am wrong about.
Meat is HARDLY the only source of protein. Where do you think gorillas and other physically strong animals get their protein from? Because, ahem, they are vegetarian. My friend is not lying:
Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness
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Those should help you get started.
Your opinion is incorrect. You have zero basis for what I'm like 'in reality' since you don't know me 'in reality'. You form an opinion of me based upon ASCII characters. I'm not so judgemental to go around making crass statements about people I've never met. I wouldn't form an opinion about anyone on here without meeting them IRL, and I'd happily grab a beer with anyone on this entire board, even the most religious, carnivorous folks. But thanks for the judgement regardless.
Again - not the only source of protein.
Here comes another 20 page thread because Casey is too narrow minded to concede that something may be different than he thinks.
Let's not get heated on the internet. Do you always make such snap judgements about people? Calm down. Take a deep breath. Eat some chicken.
Oh and if any vegetarian reads this, regarding protein, beans and lentils actually arent a complete protein so mix them with corn to finish it off. That will keep you healthy, and you'll need to eat a shit load of it to bulk.
Thats flat out not true Casey and you should know it.
A BALANCED diet is healthiest.
Let me revert to your bible:
define:vegetarian - Google Search
- eater of fruits and grains and nuts; someone who eats no meat or fish or (often) any animal products
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn - Vegetarianism is the practice of a diet that excludes meat (including game and slaughter by-products; fish, shellfish and other sea animals; and ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian - A person who does not eat animal flesh, or, in some cases, animal products. There are several subcategories; see "Related terms" below; An animal that eats only plants: a herbivore; Of or relating to the type of diet eaten by vegetarians (in all senses)
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vegetarian - vegetarianism - a diet excluding all meat and fish
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn - Vegetarianism - Wine is made without animal products. As such it can be part of a vegetarian or vegan diet. While wine is essentially made from grapes, on occasion animal products are used in small amounts in the production process.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_(wine) - vegetarianism - The practice of following a vegetarian diet
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vegetarianism - A person who eats no meat, fish, or poultry.
www.dummies.com/how-to/content/cooking-recipes-glossary.navId-323324,pageCd-V.html - Where a person does not consume meat or products derived from animals. As meat is normally an important component in the human diet, vegetarians ...
www.procare-central.com/information-centre/max-biocare-glossary.html
Well to begin with, the very definition of vegetarian. And considering that is a foundation to this, thats a pretty big fuck up on your part.
True.
They are a different species. It doesnt apply. They have a different genetic make up and DNA. But I know the point you are getting at and do not disagree. But it doesnt work for everyone, in every case.
Ive read it all. Doesnt work for me.
But you do, about everyone, and every subject, you disagree with.
Go fuck yourself.
You are the type of person that gives vegetarians and atheists a bad name, because you are INTOLERANT. 50 years ago you'd have been a racist.
Only if you eat a lot of simple carbs. Complex carbs like whole grains and vegetables will not lead to fat. They won't lead to muscles, but they won't lead to fat. That's why there's no fat hippies.
Maybe if you felt you had to break your veggie diet, you should have started with eggs. At least they were never living. That protein is the highest quality. And it will not raise your cholesterol levels by much. That's mostly a myth. It's got some other problems but so does chicken.
Im out of this.
Casey will go on and on and on and spew forth links from google about this or that but he hasnt actually LIVED anything he writes about.
You're the most religious Athiest I have ever met. You believe everything you read yet dont experience shit for yourself.
Ive seen photos of you, you're as thin as a twig and paler than me, and considering the fact you're Indian, that goes to show how healthy you probably arent. But unlike you I wont sit here and pretend to know your fucking medical history.
You are stubborn about EVERYTHING from Prince, to Android, to Google, to science to EVERYTHING and never concede that you are wrong about anything.
You and I get along about a lot of things, I think you're a good musician and at the end of the day I believe you have a good heart, but you have shitty people skills, and you're a stuck up asshole.
If you were a female Id call you a bitch.
This is my body, my life, you obviously do not KNOW what you are talking about, you maybe BELIEVE that you do, but you dont.
So kindly, fuck off, stop ruining more threads with your arrogance, go back to PREACHING your shit elsewhere.
Casey will go on and on and on and spew forth links from google about this or that but he hasnt actually LIVED anything he writes about.
You're the most religious Athiest I have ever met. You believe everything you read yet dont experience shit for yourself.
Ive seen photos of you, you're as thin as a twig and paler than me, and considering the fact you're Indian, that goes to show how healthy you probably arent. But unlike you I wont sit here and pretend to know your fucking medical history.
You are stubborn about EVERYTHING from Prince, to Android, to Google, to science to EVERYTHING and never concede that you are wrong about anything.
You and I get along about a lot of things, I think you're a good musician and at the end of the day I believe you have a good heart, but you have shitty people skills, and you're a stuck up asshole.
If you were a female Id call you a bitch.
This is my body, my life, you obviously do not KNOW what you are talking about, you maybe BELIEVE that you do, but you dont.
So kindly, fuck off, stop ruining more threads with your arrogance, go back to PREACHING your shit elsewhere.
That is true, but like I said and you just pointed out, it sustains, not builds. And Im burning so many calories, it's hard to keep up with.
Ive always eaten eggs, Ive never been a vegan (love cheese too much although still buy rennet free cheese). I however do not drink milk and have cut out most dairy and will continue doing so. Milk = baaaad.
Nothing in life is perfect
.Thanks for trying, but I have seriously been dealing with this for a year, and seriously been battling it for six months. I go to nutritionists, all that, etc etc. Have tried EVERYTHING.
One thing I will recommend though is Acai, especially if you are vegetarian.
I still eat a primarily vegetarian diet, still eat a lot of tofu, lentils, beans, veggies, it's just that Im eating a chicken breast on my training days. We'll see how it goes, if it doesnt help I will reevaluate.
Thanks for trying though and not just being an asshole about it. It has been a long process for me, and I really feel guilty with every meal. The last thing I need is some know it all dick making accusations about shit he has no fucking idea about.
I have always believed, when it comes to food, you should eat everything but do so in the proper moderation.
I understand that meat can be bad for you but it has it's benefits, too.
This is the thing that bugs me about vegetarians. They think their way is the healthiest and whoever doesn't do it is doing it wrong. Fact of the mater is most of us eat improperly in life. You can adjust your diet according to how you live but it doesn't mean that one way is wrong and the other isn't.
Anyway, eat the fuck out of that chicken!
I understand that meat can be bad for you but it has it's benefits, too.
This is the thing that bugs me about vegetarians. They think their way is the healthiest and whoever doesn't do it is doing it wrong. Fact of the mater is most of us eat improperly in life. You can adjust your diet according to how you live but it doesn't mean that one way is wrong and the other isn't.
Anyway, eat the fuck out of that chicken!
One thing you should not do is feel guilty about anything you eat. You should totally enjoy it. That's the healthiest way to eat.
One thing I never did was preach that vegetarianism is the healthiest, because it isnt, a BALANCED diet is.
I was purely a vegetarian to spare animal life, not because it was cool or healthy.
Ive neglected my own body for far too long though.
It really is hard. Eating it is like a guilt ridden chore. I try to enjoy it, which leads to threads like this I guess, and get fucking dickheads thinking they know me better than me.
I understand that you are angry but you're just talking out of your ass now. I have lived and breathed everything I do to the highest level - if I hadn't, I wouldn't be so passionate about it.
Again, this is simply incorrect.
recent candid of me -
aforementioned scarf tied round head look....brand nu for 2010.
Hey this picture has both of us in - who's paler than who again?
http://turimusic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/promoSKR.jpg
pale? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I'm mixed race, somewhere between brown and white which is called beige.....more or less the same color of the wooden door behind me in that photo.
My BMI is 22.04 - the ideal being 22. I'd have to be 18.5 or lower to be considered underweight, and over 25 to be considered overweight.
So again you are talking shit.
You don't know me, again. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that not ONE person I have ever met in real life would ever say I have shitty people skills (would the 500-odd fans that I spent 2 hours with, IN THE RAIN after our last show in Canada, signing autographs, taking photos and chit-chatting with, say that?)......and whether I am a stuck up asshole is all in the eye of the beholder, and once again I have no reason to accept the opinion of someone who has never had so much as a single voice conversation with me on the phone, let alone actually meeting and talking.
That's cool. I'm given to understand that that stands for Babe in Total Control of Herself. At least that's what I saw on a T-Shirt.
I really don't understand why you are so defensive. Clearly you feel some guilt about reverting to your meat diet (you stated this yourself), but I question your reasons for taking it out on me.
Listen, if you're really angry with me, for whatever reason, and you believe that you speak for everyone on this board when you claim I am "preaching" and "ruining threads" - then don't just talk about it, act on it. Ban me. Go on. I DARE you.
Im out. New Years Eve time. I see Casey has been writing a reply for like thirty minutes now which means he is just doing more arguing and preaching instead of actually being an understanding human being and conceding he may actually not know everything and may not have all of the answers. So I wont bother sticking around.
Happy New Year to everyone!
Happy New Year to everyone!
Hey douche bag, you're indian, IM POLISH! What do you expect? Plus those photos were taken with two different photographers, cameras, set ups, etc, etc, and mine was using a washed out RAW thing or whatever they call it, that stuff that makes it pop more 3Dish. Meh.
LOL. What a rebel. Get over yourself, you're not breaking any rules, you're just a dick. Plus, I dont ban people.
Like I said im out, happy new year to all.
No fucking shit. You're the one that said I was paler than you when that is clearly not the case.
You have the ability to DO something about an issue and you don't.
Wait are we talking about eating meat or banning me? Hmmmmm
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