A 'God' Thread

[Flipmo]

The only higher beings are aliens from other planets that are more intelligent than us.

Perhaps they have visited earth at various points throughout the existence of man and enabled/progressed us in various ways, and these things have been attributed to god.

Sumerian and Babylonian Hieroglyphics are full of bizarre symbols of things that looked like Aliens and spaceships from above. Especially with certain amazing old civilization wonders built that would be impossible in those days with the technology at hand.

So your statement is a strong possibility.

 

[masta247]

The only higher beings are aliens from other planets that are more intelligent than us.

There's no proof but it seems highly possible right?

It wouldn't matter if the belief wouldn't progress beyond "just a belief". But religions do. Hell, how they do.

Thus this thread is not about religions

Yup! But the hypocritical thing is, a lot of people won't think it's weird to keep the possibility of a God open, but those same people will call you a retard if you say you're keeping the vagina-possibility open.

"The idea of a God", though possible, has no more credibility than ANY other idea that has no proof. Let your imagination run riot. Come up with the sickest, most twisted unlogical idea about something existing and I will give it the same amount of credibility as God.

Then there's a group of people keeping the more intelligent Alien possibility open while keeping a God closed. Isn't it the same thing?

Example:

The only higher beings are aliens from other planets that are more intelligent than us.

okay

frodo, you do realize that there is not, has never been, and never will be a god, right? quite frankly if you don't realize that....get the fuck off this board.

not okay?

 

[Cooper]

Then there's a group of people keeping the more intelligent Alien possibility open while keeping a God closed. Isn't it the same thing?

An intelligent alien lifeform could indeed appear to be godlike. I don't rule out the possibility of this.

 

[Casey]

OK, well based upon the fact that there are literally billions of stars, each of which can play host to one or more solar systems, and life on Earth developed as a result of our planet being a certain proximity from the star that we call the sun, logic dictates that there are millions of planets out there that are capable of supporting life, not only that, but there are likely ones that have had and do have life that's WAY more intelligent than us.

This is simple logic. The idea of there being a "god" is illogical.

 

[Jokerman]

I'll lmao if someone discovers an unicorn which is possible with all these undiscovered species

And maybe they'll discover a uniGod which is possible with all these yet unmade-up gods.

 

[masta247]

OK, well based upon the fact that there are literally billions of stars, each of which can play host to one or more solar systems, and life on Earth developed as a result of our planet being a certain proximity from the star that we call the sun, logic dictates that there are millions of planets out there that are capable of supporting life, not only that, but there are likely ones that have had and do have life that's WAY more intelligent than us.

Yeah there's a huge possibility that there are other intelligent lifeforms in the universe but we don't know any of them yet. There's no evidence at all yet many of us know that it's not as unrealistic as talking about invisible vaginas.
There might be also God umm I mean pink unicorn on some of these planets, watching and laughing at us with his super-duper telescope. Who knows
If the universe is unlimited (if it is) there could be even unlimited amounts of pink unicorns or vaginas.

 

[Jokerman]

Time does not exist.

What about money?

 

[Cooper]

What about money?

Time = Money so money doesn't either :sad2:

 

[Duke]

Yeah there's a huge possibility that there are other intelligent lifeforms in the universe but we don't know any of them yet. There's no evidence at all yet many of us know that it's not as unrealistic as talking about invisible vaginas.

There is something one could call "theoretical evidence". There is no reason whatsoever to assume invisible vagina's exist, but there's plenty of ground (like Casey described) to assume and deduct that alien life is not only possible, but most likely.



This is the same discussion I've been having with that tupac4lyfe character. The different degrees of plausability for theories.

 

[masta247]

Then that seems to contradict your earlier theory that:

"The idea of a God", though possible, has no more credibility than ANY other idea that has no proof. Let your imagination run riot. Come up with the sickest, most twisted unlogical idea about something existing and I will give it the same amount of credibility as God.

There's no evidence for any of them but you seem to think that there are things more or less possible.
People who do believe or think about believing in God do feel that his existence is somewhat possible even if it has no scientific merit at the moment.
One group bases on the "it's almost impossible that alien forms don't exist since there are so many planets" and for others "it's almost impossible that God doesn't exist since I've experienced him so many times". The second example is hard to understand for non-believers who place God somewhere amongst pink unicorns and invisible vaginas.
They don't know how it is to really believe in it. And I don't mean believe just because their parents forced them to go to Church and pray. At this point I totally separate religion as a system from believing in a higher being.

 

[Duke]

The existence of a God cannot be deducted, whereas the existence of alien life forms can.


Tada.

 

[masta247]

The existence of a God cannot be deducted, whereas the existence of alien life forms can.

How?
There's a different source of assumptions that it exists and it's the only difference I can think of.

 

[Jokerman]

How?
There's a different source of assumptions that it exists and it's the only difference I can think of.

The difference is that those who think God is probable do so because they have religious faith, while those who think alien life is probable have used their reasoning skills to extrapolate a plausible argument based on what we know about our own example of a planet with life. It's speculation, but it's scientifically informed speculation. Whereas the God hypothesis is not speculation, let alone scientifically informed. It's simply based on emotion and wishful thinking. And it is orders of magnitude more statistically improbable than is alien life.

(Plus you forget that we all saw the alien landing cocoon roll to a stop on TV a few months ago and open to reveal a small hibernating creature within.)

 

[_carmi]

Time and rules exist because if not it'd be chaos. If human beings decide to develop them and obey them, it has to count for something.

God was created to give something the people can believe in. At 1st the Earth was the center of the universe, that was discredited.

God, destiny, extra terrestrial powers who control us, unicorns, witchcraft, magic, devil, etc are all things that could or could not exist. Who the fuck knows. Some people believe in spirits, some don't.

Some are more rational than others. Also let's not forget something, religion has been forced on decades on people and some only believe in it because its tradition to do so. It's like back in the days in Quebec the 1st son of each family had to become a priest. Now there are lacking priests... go figure.




Ps I believe in God because Jesus said so. :amazed::wondering::amuse:2

 

[Duke]

The difference is that those who think God is probable do so because they have religious faith, while those who think alien life is probable have used their reasoning skills to extrapolate a plausible argument based on what we know about our own example of a planet with life. It's speculation, but it's scientifically informed speculation. Whereas the God hypothesis is not speculation, let alone scientifically informed. It's simply based on emotion and wishful thinking. And it is orders of magnitude more statistically improbable than is alien life.

(Plus you forget that we all saw the alien landing cocoon roll to a stop on TV a few months ago and open to reveal a small hibernating creature within.)

One of the few times I can say "THANK YOU". You worded it perfectly. Scientifically informed speculation.

 

[Shadows]

The existence of a God cannot be deducted, whereas the existence of alien life forms can.


Tada.

But not everyone has the same definition for 'god' Right?

 

[Duke]

But not everyone has the same definition for 'god' Right?

No, and it depends on said definition to be able to attach a grade of feasibility to it.

 

[Euphanasia]

But not everyone has the same definition for 'god' Right?

True. Like for Einstein, "God" simply met nature and not a personal god.

But nowadays, when people reference "God," they are not usually talking about the laws of nature, they are referring to an omniscient, omnipotent being that can hear every murmur in the universe.

 

[masta247]

The difference is that those who think God is probable do so because they have religious faith, while those who think alien life is probable have used their reasoning skills to extrapolate a plausible argument based on what we know about our own example of a planet with life. It's speculation, but it's scientifically informed speculation. Whereas the God hypothesis is not speculation, let alone scientifically informed. It's simply based on emotion and wishful thinking. And it is orders of magnitude more statistically improbable than is alien life.

Yeah that's why I said that faith is not backed up with science (though churches will argue and try to prove otherwise). I was just following Duke's arguments before when he contradicted himself.
It's just that if you believe in God obviously you think that he exists and you base that assumption on your emotions. As far as emotions are in play logical thinking seems to disappear. If believing gives you something that you don't get while not believing you might think that God in fact exists, to some extent you might not believe how it might not exist if it makes you feel certain way.

 

[Duke]

I did not contradict myself. You misunderstood my point.