Your conclusion on God's existence

[Glockmatic]

No one does, thats my point

There would be biology or genetics if no one knows what it is, your point is incorrect

Im not using the bible as an argument here or claiming it as fact. and its not being taught in school as such.

But you believe that the world is 10,000 years old or however old it is by what the bible says. Its not being taught in schools because it shouldn't be taught in schools, seperation between church and state

Supposedly, but adaptation and mutation, are part of an already existing form, it is the same information, being mixed around. Evolution is new information being created.

Mutations create new information by damaging old information. Just concede you don't know what evolution is

Thats funny, you cant prove evolution with science, so what are you ranting about?

There is a lot of evidence, you ignore it because we don't know how life actually started

That is one of the most accurate definitions of evolution I have ever heard.

Science is full of logic, creationism has none.

Have you read any of this thread?? We covered alot of what is bothering you, maybe you should re-read. Oh, and sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but you say I know nothing about evolution but in this post it is crystal clear that you know absolutely nothing about creationism.

Actually what he wrote is exactly what creationism is. They take science and rewords it to fit their agenda and try to pass it as science, anything that goes against it is purely false because "Well who created the universe? Don't know? Then you're wrong and i'm right".

 

[Preach]

i have newfound, deeply rooted and passionate feelings of love for you, glockmatic

if i was superstitious, i'd say you were my god

and glockmatic's point pwns - you god lovers use the lack of proof to prove your belief while scientists use the proof that actually does exist to prove theirs.

 

[Duke]

It's useless, Glock. Just, give it up. Those people are so fucking thick skulled you could speed up time and let 'em fucking witness evolution themselves and they'd still deny it over a 2000 year old fairy tale book.

Thats funny, you cant prove evolution with science, so what are you ranting about?

Oh man.

 

[Jokerman]

I've been away. But I'll be joining this discussion in a few days and hand down the Commandments, so just hold things down in the meantime, people.

 

[Duke]

That is one of the most accurate definitions of evolution I have ever heard.






Have you read any of this thread?? We covered alot of what is bothering you, maybe you should re-read. Oh, and sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but you say I know nothing about evolution but in this post it is crystal clear that you know absolutely nothing about creationism.

Even though i should stay away from this thread, it just baffles me where you come up with your arguments. I didn't even touch the creationism theory in that post. My post was directed towards the way most ID'ers try to serve their theory, not on what it is.

Do you read? Like, actual reading and comprehension of words or do you just look at sentences?

I've had a good chat with my dad about this topic a few days ago, I'll drop some of his writings in here later tonight. Some of it is quite on point when it doesn't even touch on the several theories.

 

[Preach]

 

[Hymnz]

whatever you believe, you believe.
it is faith either way.
there has been no evidence to conclude that evolution is true. same goes with the bible.
faith

 

[Duke]

whatever you believe, you believe.
it is faith either way.
there has been no evidence to conclude that evolution is true. same goes with the bible.
faith

There is never concluding evidence that establishes an absolute truth. There comes Popper and his falsification theory. In a way, Popper's thinking paved the way for modern science and the way it accepts/rejects hypotheses, the whole "evidence bit" of modern science.


Despite the theoretical correctness of your phrase, I think it's not really far fetched to say that the evolution theory has a lot more supporting evidence than the existence of a God and the whole Intelligent Design/creationism thing.

 

[W210]

Wow, this is ridiculous.

 

[Glockmatic]

Wow, this is ridiculous.

ya, ignoring scientific fact is ridiculous

 

[Preach]

ya, ignoring scientific fact is ridiculous

lmao, dill-hole

 

[W210]

ya, ignoring scientific fact is ridiculous

Interpreting speculation as scientific fact is ridiculous

 

[Preach]

Interpreting speculation as scientific fact is ridiculous

you ridiculous god-lover.

 

[Glockmatic]

Interpreting speculation as scientific fact is ridiculous

So all the labs and schools studying genetics, biology, geology, medicine, ecology, chemistry and physics are useless because they're "interpreting speculation"?

 

[W210]

So all the labs and schools studying genetics, biology, geology, medicine, ecology, chemistry and physics are useless because they're "interpreting speculation"?

I was talking about evolution, and all the assumptions that are treated as fact. What in my post made you think otherwise? Believe it or not all of the fields you listed would go on as normal if it was revealed to them that evolution wasnt true. Its not like all of civilization is resting on it.

 

[W210]

you ridiculous god-lover.

Actually its God lover.

 

[Preach]

I was talking about evolution, and all the assumptions that are treated as fact. What in my post made you think otherwise? Believe it or not all of the fields you listed would go on as normal if it was revealed to them that evolution wasnt true. Its not like all of civilization is resting on it.

i'm not gonna start reading on page one but..

are you saying that there must be a god because there is no evolution? or that scientists are wrong in everything because there is no evolution? does the fact whether or not evolution is real give any proof that strengthens the theory of god or the theory of science?

if not, your bickering about evolution is pointless in this thread. god still doesn't exist no matter how many times you debunk it lol seriously tho. what are you trying to achieve?

 

[Glockmatic]

I was talking about evolution, and all the assumptions that are treated as fact. What in my post made you think otherwise? Believe it or not all of the fields you listed would go on as normal if it was revealed to them that evolution wasnt true. Its not like all of civilization is resting on it.

Genetics and biology would be nowhere near what it is now if it wasn't for the theory of evolution. Sure, our civilization doesn't rest on the theory of evolution, but we'd be 100 years behind in knowledge of life and medicine.

 

[W210]

Genetics and biology would be nowhere near what it is now if it wasn't for the theory of evolution. Sure, our civilization doesn't rest on the theory of evolution, but we'd be 100 years behind in knowledge of life and medicine.

Yea right, how in the world could you come to that conclusion.

 

[W210]

i'm not gonna start reading on page one but..

are you saying that there must be a god because there is no evolution? or that scientists are wrong in everything because there is no evolution? does the fact whether or not evolution is real give any proof that strengthens the theory of god or the theory of science?

I would put it more like, there is a God so there is no evolution. And I dont think that scientists are wrong in everything, but I think that evolutionists interpret evidence wrong. And If evolution was true, I would have to say there is no God.

if not, your bickering about evolution is pointless in this thread. god still doesn't exist no matter how many times you debunk it lol seriously tho. what are you trying to achieve?

Well of this thread didnt start as an evolutionary debate, but most arguments about the existence of God will inevitebly end up here. But now that we are here, I would say that my point is to point out that the theory of evolution is far less feasible than most are led to believe, and that the evidence we have is used by both sides to support their beliefs.