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C.R.Y. said:
them 2jz engines are bulletproof. you can make 1000whp on a completely stock block. anything past that though and youll have to open up the block to replace parts before they break. but thats not bad considering its a 13 yr old 183CI engine. as long as you got the tuning right on a supra, you shouldnt worry too much about it spitting rods. the only other cars that i know of that give the supra a run for the money is the terminators (03 mustang cobra), LS1s, Viper V10s, the 6g72 from 3000gts, and the evo's 4g63. im not too sure of any more engines with that type of potential. if anyone knows any, feel free to add on


RB26DETT's, that's all I can think of at the moment. Most Japanese sportscar engines have insane potential, apart from the NSX and RX7 I guess, which need work to tickle them. But yeah, Sky's, Supra's, GT's, Evo's, huge potential.
 
wait, did you just say, a mustang cobra's engine is one of the best out there? a ford?? my neighbor had an 04 mustang, then he just bought a cobra...i didnt think the difference between the two was so great...a shitty mustang and then this thing comparable with a supra...

what i meant was what type of engine is it?? i was told an inline 6...then i was told an h6, which according to what i read, it's the same thing, just a boxer engine....

and no one needs 1500 hp.....that's just insane...i did go hunting on ebay, and i found some supras that are around 40,000 and have no reserve...the guy claimed to have done a lot to it, and the car had 800 hp....

but these things, stock, can do 0-60 in 4.6? it's kinda surprising coming from toyota...toyota's got it's cars in real extremities...a supra...then this hybrid crap....weird....never would've expected something like this from toyota....what i think i'l do is make another thread, cuz we're really off topic...good thread though...
 
tennis_dog said:
wait, did you just say, a mustang cobra's engine is one of the best out there? a ford?? my neighbor had an 04 mustang, then he just bought a cobra...i didnt think the difference between the two was so great...a shitty mustang and then this thing comparable with a supra...

what i meant was what type of engine is it?? i was told an inline 6...then i was told an h6, which according to what i read, it's the same thing, just a boxer engine....

and no one needs 1500 hp.....that's just insane...i did go hunting on ebay, and i found some supras that are around 40,000 and have no reserve...the guy claimed to have done a lot to it, and the car had 800 hp....

but these things, stock, can do 0-60 in 4.6? it's kinda surprising coming from toyota...toyota's got it's cars in real extremities...a supra...then this hybrid crap....weird....never would've expected something like this from toyota....what i think i'l do is make another thread, cuz we're really off topic...good thread though...


Supra's have 3 litre inline 6's. Turbocharged. I have no clue what an H6 is, a boxer is something different (cyl's laying flat as opposed to vertical/banked) and an inline is just that, an inline.


Supra engine: OOOOOO

Porsche 911 flat six (boxer):

000
000
 
h6 = horizontal 6....that would bea boxer, right?? vertically opposed engines? i thought supras had what you said the porsche had....my bad..i dunno what the hell im talking about anymore..
 
tennis_dog said:
wait, did you just say, a mustang cobra's engine is one of the best out there? a ford?? my neighbor had an 04 mustang, then he just bought a cobra...i didnt think the difference between the two was so great...a shitty mustang and then this thing comparable with a supra...


the cobra mustang has an iron block. hence why its strong. ive seen them take upwards 800rwhp on stock internals which is very good.
 
tennis_dog said:
and no one needs 1500 hp.....that's just insane...i did go hunting on ebay, and i found some supras that are around 40,000 and have no reserve...the guy claimed to have done a lot to it, and the car had 800 hp....

thats true, nobody needs it. hell nobody needs over 200hp. but why shouldnt anybody want it? because its fun. i wouldnt need a 1500hp car. but i would like to have one. besides, that supra was built to be a daily driver/racer. you can drive around in town like normal people without having to get into boost or dealing with a clutch. if you want power, just step on it. and when you feel like going to the track, its a matter of changing the tires and putting some race gas. that sounds good to me :horny:
 
oh...well, for me, when i think of 800 hp cars, i think of them as being cars where you have to drive like F1 cars....light taps to the accelerator just to go.....1500 is near double the 800 i was thinking, so that has to be insanely hard to drive...

and they made automatic supras...if you need the 5000 rpm to receive the boost, how would you get it? strain the engine to 5000 rpm??


and could i get a pick of this cobra mustang?? like i said, my neighbor has one, but i doubt that his is as powerful as what you're describing....is this cobra stock? or does it have engine tweaks giving it more hp?
 
tennis_dog said:
oh...well, for me, when i think of 800 hp cars, i think of them as being cars where you have to drive like F1 cars....light taps to the accelerator just to go.....1500 is near double the 800 i was thinking, so that has to be insanely hard to drive...

yeah theres lag for the power, but when it hits, it hits hard. its insane power. but i wouldnt put that power down unless i had at least drag radials on.

and they made automatic supras...if you need the 5000 rpm to receive the boost, how would you get it? strain the engine to 5000 rpm??
just step on it. itll downshift. it would strain the engine a little like it would on a regular car, you just wont be getting anywhere until the boost arrives. and since you wont have boost on the lower rpms you wont be stressing the engine, just your foot.



and could i get a pick of this cobra mustang?? like i said, my neighbor has one, but i doubt that his is as powerful as what you're describing....is this cobra stock? or does it have engine tweaks giving it more hp?

its not stock. its stock engine, but the supercharger is replaced with turbos. ill see if i can find the mustang. but an example would be the whipple supercharged cobras. they put out 700rwhp on a stock motor.

heres a hellion turbo cobra putting out 713rwhp on a stock block. look in the sig of a guy called TRBO VNM

http://svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303574
 
A GSR engine is rather good stock, and even better when sleeved. I see people making 600whp on stock sleeves so thats pretty impressive for a little fourbanger.
Most engines can be pushed very far without a proper tune.


I didn't see if this was answered yet, but supras are inline6, h6 = "boxer" or horizontally opposed.
 
its good, but not real strong. its only good for about 300whp before you have to build the engine. otherwise youll crack the block. i have friends who learned that the hardway. a strong 4 banger would be something like a 4G63 which can handle +600whp on a stock block. along with the neon srt4 which can handle 500whp on stock block
 
tennis_dog said:
supercars cant do 7 or 8 second quarters....how are these cars doing it??
Keep in mind that supercars are high-priced exotics that are meant to combine driveability, everyday use and exceptional performance. Such cars we've been mentioning (specifically 1000+ hp Supras) might surpass some supercars in performance, but fall short in other areas. With huge turbos, driveability might not be so great when not in boost. Supercars, on the otherhand, are exciting at any rev range. Many cars doing 7 or 8 second quarter-miles are typically stripped down and without most conveniences (power accessories, air conditioning, an interior, etc.), plus they probably don't meet emission requirements with so much work on them and such aggressive setups. Supercars, on the other hand, are typically nice yet functional while meeting all federal requirements for an automobile.
 
C.R.Y. said:
its good, but not real strong. its only good for about 300whp before you have to build the engine. otherwise youll crack the block. i have friends who learned that the hardway. a strong 4 banger would be something like a 4G63 which can handle +600whp on a stock block. along with the neon srt4 which can handle 500whp on stock block

Not true. I know a few people with 600hp+ on stock blocks. No sleeve work whatsoever. Its all in the tune my friend, a good tune can make a poor engine last forever, it would be alot tougher to tune though then say a darton sleeved block, you have a whole lot more room for error when tuning.


SRT engines might be tough, but their transmissions suffer.

Few examples.

SRT7.jpg

SRT10.jpg


Yep that is clutch /presure plate smoking on the ground outside the bell housng :laugh: :laugh:
 
^the block is stock, but is the rest stock? i doubt it considering it has a stock compression ratio of 10.0:1. youll have to change the internals to make anything over 300whp reliably. check hondatech. theyll tell you. running high boost on a high compression engine that isnt built is disaster. thats why people build the ITR engine before going turbo, because its high compression. they cant put alot of boost without blowing the engine. keep in mind by stock block, i mean stock internals in the block. stock rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, stock everything.http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1672578

the srt4 tranny might not last, but the engine does. thats like laughing at a supra because it cant take over 600rwhp on its stock auto tranny unless its built or replaced. hell with the tranny lol, replace it. :thumb:
 

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