World Cup 2010

[Flipmo]

I missed it, do you have a link Mr. Bobby?

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^i read that on another forum. its just a rumour. but here is something i found:

John Terry infuriated his England team-mates yesterday by publicly challenging Fabio Capello’s authority before their critical World Cup match against Slovenia on Wednesday.

Terry said that he was speaking “on behalf of the team” as he announced his intention to air his views on where Capello is going wrong at a planned meeting between the squad and the staff last night.

However, several senior players were shocked by his comments at a press conference, in which he said of Capello: “If it upsets him or any other player, so what?”

Several of Terry’s team-mates believe his comments stem from his lingering resentment over being stripped of the captaincy by Capello in February.

Tension between Capello and Terry has grown over the past week, with England making a dismal start to their campaign by drawing with the United States and Algeria, raising the threat of elimination on Wednesday.

As it transpired, Terry reluctantly dropped his plan to air grievances at last night’s meeting, having been talked out of it by his team-mates and by members of Capello’s staff.

Privately, some of Terry’s colleagues are furious with him for admitting to tensions within the squad when the consensus had been that they would deny any such unrest in the interests of unity between the players and the coaching staff.

It remains likely that either Steven Gerrard, Terry’s successor as captain, or a delegation of senior players will propose to Capello that he makes certain changes to his team to face Slovenia in Port Elizabeth, but this proposal will be made far more diplomatically than Terry intended when he announced his plan to voice his feelings at last night’s meeting.

There is support within the squad for the inclusion of Joe Cole, who has not yet been involved in the tournament, and for a move towards a 4-5-1 formation.

It is far from certain, though, that Capello will make the changes that the players would favour. Cole is far more likely to be involved against Slovenia, but he is not guaranteed to start the game, while the manager will consider retaining a 4-4-2 formation, with either Jermain Defoe or Peter Crouch replacing Emile Heskey as Wayne Rooney’s strike partner.

 

[Bobby Sands]

i cant find a link to a video of that Terry press conference though/.

 

[Bobby Sands]

and also

World Cup 2010: John Terry finds out that England is not like Chelsea | Football | The Guardian

 

[Flipmo]

This is what I found in my neck of the woods

English players looking for answers
Terry denies reports of a rift with the manager

The Associated Press

England players were planning a team meeting with coach Fabio Capello to discuss what went wrong in their disappointing 0-0 draw with Algeria that left them facing possible elimination from the World Cup.

Defender John Terry denied reports of a rift between Capello and the players, but acknowledged that there was a lack of passion from the team during Friday's game and says he understands why fans jeered the team from the Cape Town field.

"We've got a meeting tonight, watching the game to see where we went wrong," he told reporters at the team's training camp Sunday. "Everyone needs to get off their chest exactly how they're feeling."

The Chelsea captain said all the players were behind Capello and dismissed reports that there was unrest in the training camp.

"I have seen a few reports this morning and, on behalf of the players, I can say there's no unrest in the camp at all," Terry said. "We're obviously still disappointed from the game the other night but we have to pick ourselves up and go into our last game needing to win."

England has only two points after two matches, but Terry remained confident the team would beat Slovenia in Port Elizabeth on Wednesday and qualify for the round of 16.

The Slovenians lead the group with four points, England and the United States have two apiece and Algeria has one. The simplest way for England to advance would be to defeat Slovenia.

"We realize the last game was totally unacceptable," Terry said. "The good thing is we can go into this next game four days later and prove people wrong, go out there and put on a performance but more importantly get the three points and get us through the group."

Although Capello guided England to the World Cup with a record of nine wins and one defeat in qualification, the team went into the competition hampered by injury problems and with key players such as striker Wayne Rooney unable to recapture their domestic form.

The draws with the United States -- 1-1 after taking the lead in the fourth minute -- and Algeria have led to doubts about Capello's ability to get the best out of England in his first World Cup as a coach.

Terry tried Sunday to quiet speculation about growing rifts within the team.

"I am not going to sit here and question the manager," Terry said. "I am here on behalf of the team and we're all fully behind the manager.

"Since the manager came in he has had his ways and his philosophies and his ideas and that's worked in the campaign. So nothing's changed from there.

"We shouldn't be looking at excuses or criticizing the manager."

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^yea that was from the press conference earlier.

 

[Flipmo]

Indeed. I didn't search very hard. lol.

I wouldn't be surprised though, this is John Terry we're talking about here. He's like Ribery in personality. lol

 

[Bobby Sands]

there are also rumours going around that Rooney punched Terry. id love if that was true lol good on him if he did punch him.

 

[hizzle?]

I'd love to see Rooney slug Terry...

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

TERRY ISNT A GOOD CHRISTIAN BOY

Unlike Kaka <3

 

[Duke]

AW YOU CUNTS! I watched the game in a bar and stayed for drinking (well...yeah....) so i can only now dip in, and you lot already moved on from the bra - ivo game?

CUNTS!


alright, let me try to recap my thoughts and responses on posts i saw:


as far as poor reffing goes: flip is right, the ones from the dwarf countries (which i also was very skeptical about) are reffing well. the reffing standard this whole tourney so far is excellent actually. only a few errors so far. im liking it. saw a lot of good refs.

So hereby I am eating my words *insert reverse nomz here*



Now, Brazil - Ivory

Brazil was better. Let's say that first. Deserved victory. Ivory brought too little too late. Too static for most of the game. Imo they actually "sought" Drogba way too much. Ofc Drogba is gonna get the hell marked out of him, and Juan and Lucio aren't exactly toddlers. Ivory should've tried much more over the flanks, especially on the counter. You face Brazil with upcoming fullbacks like Maicon and Bastos, and you have quick forwards like Kalou.
You should be able to make use of the space left by the Brazilian fullbacks on the counter. I mean, this is no rocket science. If i can figure this out in the pub with 4 pints in me, why can't the pro's? But instead, Ivory played almost everything through the centre. Seeking Drogba too much. Stupid stupid stupid.


Well, next heated point: Kaka's red.

Was it a red? Hell fucking yes. Virtual neg-reps (that negative anchors, yes I count in anchors, for Dukie) for anyone who disagrees.
Look, Kaka was on a yellow. He deliberately put his elbow in front of a man that was not intentionally running into him. That's a fucking yellow card, no matter how you twist it. No ball in play, he just bashed him.

BUT, the ref SHOULD have shown Keita a yellow as well for overacting.

Thats what i think.

Anyway, deserved Brazil win. Excellent Fabiano strikes, even if his second might've involved a handball.

The Elano goal was an excellent attack. Every time they chose the best possible continuation of play. I loved it. I hope Elano isnt too badly hurt after that Tiote charge (I hereby apoligize on the behalf of FC Twente), that could've been a red. I really like Elano. Liked him already when we played City a year ago. Can't believe they chose to get rid of him. Insane move. I already joked with Flip and Thuggy that if he scored a 30 yard piledriver this season, those stupid cunts @ City would buy him back at double the price.

Anyway....uhm....yeah. Ok. lol.

Portugal to win tomorrow.

Nacao valente imortal!

 

[Flipmo]

Those are the shortest sentences ever. TO THE ABYSS WITH THEE.

Fuck, I'm gonna go pass out now. *farts* Farewell.

 

[Pittsey]

This is the problem with the English press, and most of the fans.

I watched the press conference. Terry came across more intelligent and articulate than I have ever given him credit. He was 2 steps ahead of the chimps from the PG Tips ads. Which suprised me.

I don't believe his words upset any of the England players. He didn't give anything away, and David James said similar things in interviews with the press after the Algeria game.

I can't imagine any of the players coming to blows. And Rooney's temper isn't a problem. If Rooney had behaved like Kaka did yesterday it'd be front page headlines. They'd be everyone questioning his temperament and every shrink would be in every paper or on every news channel giving an analysis of his poor behaviour. It's easy to say... Rooney hit him. Because that's an easy story to pick out the air, and because of all the bad press about Rooney's temper, easily believed.



Let the football do the talking. Stop hating on the England team (directed at English fans). And get behind them, and their individual players. Just because certain players are cocks, doesn't mean that we can't embrace them when they are wearing the three lions. Also... Cheating on your wife isn't a crime, nor is shagging your mates bird. 90% of the hate directed at players is jealousy.



One last (rant) point - If you aren't Brazilian (insert any successful national team here), and you support Brazil. You are a fucking fag. It makes me cringe when I see the English in Brazilian and Argentinian shirts. And in 2002 led to a beating for the moron who wore the Argentinian shirt during the England Vs Argentinia match in a pub where I lived. And we won that game. If we had lost, I believe he may have been killed.

 

[Duke]

Alright

Porties 2 - 0 North Korea

 

[Duke]

Good goal Meireles

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

One last (rant) point - If you aren't Brazilian (insert any successful national team here), and you support Brazil. You are a fucking fag. It makes me cringe when I see the English in Brazilian and Argentinian shirts. And in 2002 led to a beating for the moron who wore the Argentinian shirt during the England Vs Argentinia match in a pub where I lived. And we won that game. If we had lost, I believe he may have been killed.

Probably one of the main reasons I hate England yobs..I mean fans. The primates of the footballing world.

 

[DJ Manny]

OMG Portugal 7-0 wtf great goals by them

 

[Duke]

I don't think this match will make it to North Korean television, lmao.

"Technical difficulties"

Yeah on the pitch that is, lol.

 

[Flipmo]

I kinda feel bad for North Korea. lol

 

[Duke]

True that.

Rooting for Chile in the next game. They looked allright in the previous match. Hoping the Swiss play a bit more forward this time around. Can't really blame them for defending against Spain, but let's see if they come out with a more positive attitude.

Im guessing a 1-1 draw, though.