World Cup 2006

[_carmi]

ahh i should have taken pictures of little italy... my bad i didnt have my camera with me..

theres plenty of versions of what materazzi said. we will unfortunately never know the truth. but one act doesnt justify the other anyways.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Why is it when people speculate what the Italian said was racial you bring up that its all rumour, then your more than willing to say "materazzi was talking about ZZ wife! It's all pointless."?? I agree though, well done Italy.

No no you misunderstood what i was meaning! What im saying is other folks are saying materazzi was talking about ZZ wife, not me, i was'nt there, so i dont know what was said, what i do know is that ZZ headbutted materazzi.


What amazes me is players punch/slap/kick/nip/stamp on other players all the time, and they get sent off! and nobody gives a flying fuck what the other player had said to the guy for him to react in that way! It's only a big deal now cuz it is one of the greatest players in the world.

 

[not really ken]

^No it's only a big deal because Zidane is experienced and has played in Italy and Spain to of the most racist and infantile leagues in Euroupe. He has never reacted like this before and is used to wehat goes on, but Sunday was the final of the world cup his last match and the butt was completely outrageous and there must have been serious provocation for him to do that.

 

[Jibster]

^No it's only a big deal because Zidane is experienced and has played in Italy and Spain to of the most racist and infantile leagues in Euroupe. He has never reacted like this before and is used to wehat goes on, but Sunday was the final of the world cup his last match and the butt was completely outrageous and there must have been serious provocation for him to do that.

To say he's "never reacted like this before" is absurd, he's got form. He's stamped on a player before whlst playing for France and headbutted someone else whilst playin for Bordeaux. Think he's also had a run in with a referee before to.

However, i agree that it does need to be established what was said. This is the best ever European player who is incredibly experienced, playing in his final game which happens to be the World Cup final with 10 mins remaining before penalty kicks and for some reason he's snapped and butted another player as a result of something that was said. This wasn't your regular run of the mill bit of banter IMO.

 

[7 Syns]

I'm surprized to see nobody bringing up Eric Cantona though. He dropped kicked a fan who was throwing anti french remarks to him and now he does commercials and seen as one of the best players to ever step onto the field. lol :thumb:

Joga Bonito mes amis.

I remember seeing that on TV with my old man, lol. I remember that my old man almost died choking on his ice, from his whiskey on the rocks, when he started to laugh real hard.

Me, I had cola running out my nose.

Funniest shit ive ever seen on a field, AFTER the infamous Korean league game where everyone started fly kicking eachother. Not one single punch thrown. Just like 500 flykicks. lol.

pwace.

 

[Flipmo]

Italy might lose their title?

This is in french, so those who understand french will know why.

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L'Italie disqualifiée?

Mercredi 12 juillet 2006 - (RDS.ca) -

Vous pensiez que le dernier chapitre du roman-savon entourant le désormais fameux coup de tête de Zinédine Zidane à l’endroit de Marco Materazzi allait s’écrire avec les excuses livrées par le joueur étoile à la télé nationale? Restez à l’écoute.

Si la Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA) juge que les propos tenus par le joueur italien à l'endroit du numéro 10 des Bleus sont discriminatoires, et si elle applique à la lettre ses propres règlements, l’Italie pourrait se voir retirer son quatrième titre en Coupe du monde de soccer. Rien de moins.

Vous avez dit controverse?

Voici ce que stipule l’article 55 du Code disciplinaire de la FIFA : "Si des joueurs, des officiels d'associations ou de clubs ou des spectateurs font preuve d'un comportement discriminatoire ou inhumain, l'équipe à laquelle ces personnes seront rattachées, si tant que cela soit possible, se verra retirer d'emblée trois points dès la première infraction. La deuxième infraction entraînera un retrait de six points et la troisième infraction aura pour conséquence la relégation de l'équipe. Pour des matchs où aucun point n'est attribué, l'équipe concernée sera disqualifiée."

RDS.CA

 

[_carmi]

^no fucking way. we still deserve that damn cup!

 

[AmerikazMost]

Italy might lose their title?

This is in french, so those who understand french will know why.

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L'Italie disqualifiée?

Mercredi 12 juillet 2006 - (RDS.ca) -

Vous pensiez que le dernier chapitre du roman-savon entourant le désormais fameux coup de tête de Zinédine Zidane à l’endroit de Marco Materazzi allait s’écrire avec les excuses livrées par le joueur étoile à la télé nationale? Restez à l’écoute.

Si la Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA) juge que les propos tenus par le joueur italien à l'endroit du numéro 10 des Bleus sont discriminatoires, et si elle applique à la lettre ses propres règlements, l’Italie pourrait se voir retirer son quatrième titre en Coupe du monde de soccer. Rien de moins.

Vous avez dit controverse?

Voici ce que stipule l’article 55 du Code disciplinaire de la FIFA : "Si des joueurs, des officiels d'associations ou de clubs ou des spectateurs font preuve d'un comportement discriminatoire ou inhumain, l'équipe à laquelle ces personnes seront rattachées, si tant que cela soit possible, se verra retirer d'emblée trois points dès la première infraction. La deuxième infraction entraînera un retrait de six points et la troisième infraction aura pour conséquence la relégation de l'équipe. Pour des matchs où aucun point n'est attribué, l'équipe concernée sera disqualifiée."

RDS.CA

I was wondering about this. I knew about the point deductions, but I wasn't sure what happens in the elimination rounds.

IMO They should be disqualified then (according to what the lip reader said that he said).

Zidane goes from hothead who loses the World Cup for France to a crusader against dsicrimination in soccer.

 

[_carmi]

zidane said it was about his omther and sister. its maybe not racist

 

[Thug Passion]

zidane said it was about his omther and sister. its maybe not racist

Maybe he didn't go in depth just yet until he faces FIFA.

Insulting his mother & sister can still be classified as racist, depending on what was said exactly. But if we were to believe the experienced lip reader, then his comments are/were pure racist. ('We know you are a son of a terrorist whore')

EDIT: What did the article say, FlipMo? I can't read French but I'm interested to know what it says. Sounds pretty serious stuff.

Peace~

 

[Flipmo]

l’article 55 du Code disciplinaire de la FIFA : "Si des joueurs, des officiels d'associations ou de clubs ou des spectateurs font preuve d'un comportement discriminatoire ou inhumain, l'équipe à laquelle ces personnes seront rattachées, si tant que cela soit possible, se verra retirer d'emblée trois points dès la première infraction. La deuxième infraction entraînera un retrait de six points et la troisième infraction aura pour conséquence la relégation de l'équipe. Pour des matchs où aucun point n'est attribué, l'équipe concernée sera disqualifiée."


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Article 55 of the disciplinary code of Fifa: ''If players, officials of the associations, clubs or spectators are proven to have had a discriminatory or inhumaine attitude, des teams the 'people' are attached to, if possible, will be removed 3 points. The 2nd time around, 6 points, 3rd time around, like consequence, there will be a relegation of the teams. For the matches with no points being attributed, the team in question will be disqualified.

 

[troublesome2004]

Funniest shit ive ever seen on a field, AFTER the infamous Korean league game where everyone started fly kicking eachother. Not one single punch thrown. Just like 500 flykicks. lol.

I saw that too. So funny. :thumb:

 

[marc]

Carmi, werent you from Argentinia?

 

[troublesome2004]

l’article 55 du Code disciplinaire de la FIFA : "Si des joueurs, des officiels d'associations ou de clubs ou des spectateurs font preuve d'un comportement discriminatoire ou inhumain, l'équipe à laquelle ces personnes seront rattachées, si tant que cela soit possible, se verra retirer d'emblée trois points dès la première infraction. La deuxième infraction entraînera un retrait de six points et la troisième infraction aura pour conséquence la relégation de l'équipe. Pour des matchs où aucun point n'est attribué, l'équipe concernée sera disqualifiée."


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Article 55 of the disciplinary code of Fifa: ''If players, officials of the associations, clubs or spectators are proven to have had a discriminatory or inhumaine attitude, des teams the 'people' are attached to, if possible, will be removed 3 points. The 2nd time around, 6 points, 3rd time around, like consequence, there will be a relegation of the teams. For the matches with no points being attributed, the team in question will be disqualified.

FIFA will do nothing. They'll confirm that Zidane is the guilty one and the racist Materazzi will sneak out because Zizou doesn't have anybody to witness the whole incident alonside himself. And, he was sent out thanks to the video replay. :fury: So, every Italian title is under suspicion except for that in 1982.

 

[marc]

The FIFA (court) has proven to be a joke with the suspension of Frings and a few Argentinian players.
I hope nothing similar happens Euro 08.

 

[AmerikazMost]

Carmi, werent you from Argentinia?

you're thinking of Missy "C"

 

[_carmi]

Carmi, werent you from Argentinia?

no. i'm from Canada and i'm half italian. missy c is from argentina.

 

[ArtsyGirl]

No no you misunderstood what i was meaning! What im saying is other folks are saying materazzi was talking about ZZ wife, not me, i was'nt there, so i dont know what was said, what i do know is that ZZ headbutted materazzi.


What amazes me is players punch/slap/kick/nip/stamp on other players all the time, and they get sent off! and nobody gives a flying fuck what the other player had said to the guy for him to react in that way! It's only a big deal now cuz it is one of the greatest players in the world.

I guess nobody besides the two players at this point know 100% what was said, but I just think in such a crucial game with very little time remaining that it must have been pretty bad for him to snap like that. I dont think it was wrong that Zidane was sent off, from everything we can see he should have been. But I think the truth needs to come out, if for anything so that Italy can claim the Cup fully and all this can be over with.

 

[AmerikazMost]

My friend in Colombia said that there's rumor that France may be trying to get them to replay the final if they can prove the 4th official used the replay to red card Zidane.

Anyone know anything about this?

 

[jbrolax]

My friend in Colombia said that there's rumor that France may be trying to get them to replay the final if they can prove the 4th official used the replay to red card Zidane.

Anyone know anything about this?

Rumors...sounds more like hopes and dreams

Theres no way they will ever have a re do to the most watched sporting event in the world(correct me if im wrong)