haha yeah i get ya... i hate them people, i listen to pac becuz of the way it makes me feel... never got the same impact or anything close from any other rapper
whats dis mean
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i cant stand that cat....i admit he got some good songs but hes just an example of what im talking about back in the days he sported a mullet and a purple t shirt......then he bec ame hip hop now that he signed 50 cent it seems like its his pass to wear do rags and talk tough......they wouldnt have shit to do with him if he wasnt making them rich IE 50 cent appeals to eminems fans cuz hes down with shadyTcThaDon said:yeah the millions of eminem fans seem 2 do that
perfect example
*suspect#1* said:i cant stand that cat....i admit he got some good songs but hes just an example of what im talking about back in the days he sported a mullet and a purple t shirt......then he bec ame hip hop now that he signed 50 cent it seems like its his pass to wear do rags and talk tough......they wouldnt have shit to do with him if he wasnt making them rich IE 50 cent appeals to eminems fans cuz hes down with shady
perfect example
u nailed it brotha
Shit everyone listens to different musicians for different reasons why does it matter so much who listens to what as long as it satisfies the listener/fan? isnt that what an artist wants to accomplish?
yeah, eminem was reading comic books as a kid.. not shooting guns.. but u gotta respect emimem in the fact that he never once stated that he wuz a gangsta.. so i wouldnt hate in that area, and also... eminem started this shit as a joke .. the type of jokes you would make with your friends in ur grandmas living room.. then he started writing alot and look where he is.. the only thing i can hold against him is that he produced the pac cd and fucked up his legacy
naw he didn't fuck up his legacy..the legacy is untouchable..but he definitally tried to piss on it...but was uneffective..he just made some 2pac cd to appeal to his gay fans who live in the country and read spider man comic books..
yeah i guess ur right... he only affected the fans who dont kno pac real well.. i mean the only thing we got out of it was being real pissed off.. but its not like we arent ridin for pac... new fans prolly think 2pac is a piece of shit... i mean.. i wouldnt be surprised if i heared from someone that 2pac is in g unit...
wow.. look at the first post in this thread and then look where the topic has gone... haha its funny how it changed so much
wow.. look at the first post in this thread and then look where the topic has gone... haha its funny how it changed so much
i dont know what the big deal is with the new cd, doesnt n e one else notice that every pac cd has a different style of beats? the only thing that is constant in this world is change... no one can make the same type of shit over and over again with same "type" of beats
ShArpEnUrSwOrD said:Shit everyone listens to different musicians for different reasons why does it matter so much who listens to what as long as it satisfies the listener/fan? isnt that what an artist wants to accomplish?
sometimes thats the case but look at cats like kurupt and daz who rep there shit for turf grindin crips they obvoisly aint trying to appeal to bloods right?
rap artist speak about whats going on around them there situtaions exgatterated in there rhymes yes but they are making there music for those that can feel it and relate to it anyone can embrace it but if you not having first hand knowledge of whats goin on in the raps then your just on the outside looking in.......
i dont like the way em did pac ecspecially because he changed his own style to try and make a pac style cd but shit imma still bump that shit regardless i dont give a fuck
theyre not only makin it for only the people living in similar situations and if they did we wouldnt even know them from someother person on the street, man they aren't stupid they know that more than half of their cds are white,
Shit man and they are the only ones that have first hand knowledge of thier situations so they should make a song about their day and then put that shit on a cd of their own put it in their cd player and lock that shit up so no one can ever hear that shit, oh but wait maybe theyll find someone worthy of listenin to their hardccore gangsta ass rap song
peace
Shit man and they are the only ones that have first hand knowledge of thier situations so they should make a song about their day and then put that shit on a cd of their own put it in their cd player and lock that shit up so no one can ever hear that shit, oh but wait maybe theyll find someone worthy of listenin to their hardccore gangsta ass rap song
peace
ShArpEnUrSwOrD said:i dont know what the big deal is with the new cd, doesnt n e one else notice that every pac cd has a different style of beats? the only thing that is constant in this world is change... no one can make the same type of shit over and over again with same "type" of beats
the BIG DEAL is...
1. copy/pasted words
2. even though the beats change from album to album, so does his mood from album to album.. if everyone was in the same mood for their whole life the world would hardly turn and there would be barely any conflict... 2pac was going through so much in so little time, so every album is cherished like a chapter in his short life... what i am trying to put out is that eminem didnt do a good job of associating the beats with his mindset, and his mood... his TRUE feelings cant be found on this album with copy pasted words and slowed down accepellas... eminem shouldnt have made his lyrics fit eminems beats .. he should have made his beats fit 2pacs words... honestly though, i dont think that eminem is capable of doing this and thats why im dissapointed that lttg was actually put out in stores... the project could have been put in the hands of jonny j or someone else along those lines, not embraced by the amateur producer marshall mathers
i knew that white kids buying rap thing would pop up thats true.....i feel they sell there cds to suburban kids but they not exacty making there music for themShArpEnUrSwOrD said:theyre not only makin it for only the people living in similar situations and if they did we wouldnt even know them from someother person on the street, man they aren't stupid they know that more than half of their cds are white,
Shit man and they are the only ones that have first hand knowledge of thier situations so they should make a song about their day and then put that shit on a cd of their own put it in their cd player and lock that shit up so no one can ever hear that shit, oh but wait maybe theyll find someone worthy of listenin to their hardccore gangsta ass rap song
peace
Strictly 4 said:the BIG DEAL is...
1. copy/pasted words
2. even though the beats change from album to album, so does his mood from album to album.. if everyone was in the same mood for their whole life the world would hardly turn and there would be barely any conflict... 2pac was going through so much in so little time, so every album is cherished like a chapter in his short life... what i am trying to put out is that eminem didnt do a good job of associating the beats with his mindset, and his mood... his TRUE feelings cant be found on this album with copy pasted words and slowed down accepellas... eminem shouldnt have made his lyrics fit eminems beats .. he should have made his beats fit 2pacs words... honestly though, i dont think that eminem is capable of doing this and thats why im dissapointed that lttg was actually put out in stores... the project could have been put in the hands of jonny j or someone else along those lines, not embraced by the amateur producer marshall mathers
yeah i understand what u are sayin and i agree that em didnt do a good job ( to say the least) but im just trying to say that shit is constantly changing and how can we say that shit pac would be puttin out if he was alive would still be to our liking. I know that, that would most likly not of been the case but shit what if it were?
ShArpEnUrSwOrD said:yeah i understand what u are sayin and i agree that em didnt do a good job ( to say the least) but im just trying to say that shit is constantly changing and how can we say that shit pac would be puttin out if he was alive would still be to our liking. I know that, that would most likly not of been the case but shit what if it were?
yeah your right.. his beats prolly would be diff. if he was here.. and along with his lyrics... but most of the reason why everything is so different is because of his death and the new ppl that took over the rap game... i mean .. just because newer rap sounds different doesnt mean we need to try and make pac sound new... i like the time era pac was rapping about... and i feel that we should have been givin the proper beats for his music at THAT TIME... his lyrics arent from now.. theyre from BACK THEN .. no need to doctor them up and make em sound new...
Seko said:I belive it's called Ingram M11, mac is just a nickname.
Its speciality is, that it shoots almost 20 bullets per second thats why the long clips containing aroung 48-60 bullets, favored by drug dealers and gangs.
ummmmmm....no...it does not shoot 20 bullets per second...it is a semi-automatic weapon. Some fully-automatic weapons don't even shoot 20 bullets per sec
MAC, Ingram & Cobray Model M11/NINE
It has Semi and full auto switch and is has one of the worlds fastest firing rate as a small "smg" or so.
Ingram M10/M11 submachine gun
"Gordon Ingram created a series of submachine gun models that resembled the Thompson Submachine Gun outwardly. Unlike the Thompson, however, these guns required a minimum of machining and were simple to operate. This gun is little larger than a conventional pistol but has a telescoping/folding metal stock and a front strap for aid in controlling the gun. The bolt telescopes around the barrel which extends back into the gun to just in front and above the magazine well. Two chamberings of the M-10 were offered, one in 9mm Luger and the other in .45 ACP.
Later Ingram created an even more compact version of the gun, the Model 11, chambered for .380 ACP. All models fire with extremely high cyclic rates. A number of other variants of the M-10 have since been produced including the M-11/9 (a compact 9mm version of the M-11) and semiautomatic "assault pistol" versions of the gun. All of these efforts met with varying success, and the original goal of Ingram, to create a viable military submachine gun, has never been realized. The military never became more than mildly curious about the super-compact submachine guns and has instead opted for "chopped" rifles like the AR-15 variant, the M4 Carbine, or the Heckler & Koch MP 5 submachine gun. About 10,000 guns were made, but relatively few have ever been used by regular military forces."
Muzzle velocity:
Model 10: 280 meters/second & Model 10 Parabellum: 360 meters/second
Model 11: 293 meters/second
Rate of fire (cyclic):
Model 10: 1145 rounds/minute & Model 10 Parabellum: 1090 rounds/minute
Model 11: 1200 rounds/minute <- do the math if you can
It has Semi and full auto switch and is has one of the worlds fastest firing rate as a small "smg" or so.
Ingram M10/M11 submachine gun
"Gordon Ingram created a series of submachine gun models that resembled the Thompson Submachine Gun outwardly. Unlike the Thompson, however, these guns required a minimum of machining and were simple to operate. This gun is little larger than a conventional pistol but has a telescoping/folding metal stock and a front strap for aid in controlling the gun. The bolt telescopes around the barrel which extends back into the gun to just in front and above the magazine well. Two chamberings of the M-10 were offered, one in 9mm Luger and the other in .45 ACP.
Later Ingram created an even more compact version of the gun, the Model 11, chambered for .380 ACP. All models fire with extremely high cyclic rates. A number of other variants of the M-10 have since been produced including the M-11/9 (a compact 9mm version of the M-11) and semiautomatic "assault pistol" versions of the gun. All of these efforts met with varying success, and the original goal of Ingram, to create a viable military submachine gun, has never been realized. The military never became more than mildly curious about the super-compact submachine guns and has instead opted for "chopped" rifles like the AR-15 variant, the M4 Carbine, or the Heckler & Koch MP 5 submachine gun. About 10,000 guns were made, but relatively few have ever been used by regular military forces."
Muzzle velocity:
Model 10: 280 meters/second & Model 10 Parabellum: 360 meters/second
Model 11: 293 meters/second
Rate of fire (cyclic):
Model 10: 1145 rounds/minute & Model 10 Parabellum: 1090 rounds/minute
Model 11: 1200 rounds/minute <- do the math if you can
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