What makes things true?

Because you read it in a book?
yes, but then again there's a chance the author is a liar
Because somebody you trust told you?
yes, but then again there's a chance your trusted somebody is a liar
Because you KNOW it in your heart?
yes, but then again there's a chance your ass is also a liar

Because you witnessed it? yes, but then again what you see and what actually happened can be two or three different things beyond your understanding


What? (drum roll) nothing!!!

those answers were technically speaking. but there as much right as there are wrong. it depends on the situation, the person, and whatever else. i guess that's where the gamble in life is. deep thinkin like this'll drive ya crazy man, i'm tellin ya.



or you could just trust nobody and nothing. but that seems to be a hard lonely road so far.


but then again, i might be lying too.
 
saltynuts said:
Because you read it in a book?

Because somebody you trust told you?

Because you KNOW it in your heart?

Because you witnessed it?


What?
I utilize all of the above
 
Feeling it in your heart and you seeing it with your own eyes, that's what makes "things" true. Another thing that makes "things" true is if you trust someone else. And if you trust someone else you will believe what they say is true.
 
saltynuts said:
Because you read it in a book?

Because somebody you trust told you?

Because you KNOW it in your heart?

Because you witnessed it?


What?

It depends what you see as a truth. You can form the truth by combining all these aspects. But, you can't be sure at the end. Most of the time when I'm confused what's truth and what's not I go with a #3. If I make a mistake on this way I don't regret much.
 
Tru Principle said:
This is not an attack, but.. can you give us examples?
well wikipedia can be edited by anyone and has been over and over. a few months ago, wikipedia had to stop the editing of the wiki pages of people in politics and even ban certain members ip address and all computer access from capitol hill computers, because it was discovered that politicians were having their staff go on the site and write lies about people in other political parties, writing things on their own wiki pages that made them (the politician) look better.

i noticed a huge change to president clintons page. earlier this year it had a near complete list of all the scandals through out his adminstration with details. it took up a good portion of the page. the last time i checked, which was about a month ago or two, it was shortened to like 2 sentences.

wikipedia has gotten a lot of criticism just because anyone can write whatever they want and it never gets fact checked by their staff and if it does it can take months before it even gets check out.

just last year, a man named john seigenthaler was told by a friend of his that his wikipage says he may have killed jfk. of course he really did not kill jfk but it was edited in his page as a joke by a man named brian chase. it made national headlines and the chase was arrested i think but the charges were dropped by seigenthaler

there are plenty of other examples out there. wikipedia has its pros and cons and i use it often. but if i use it for academic purposes i usually fact check anything i get off it from other crediable sources

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wikiwoo.htm here is a site that is sort of a wikipedia.org watch page, it has more details of hoaxes and biased editing by users. mostly criticism, but it's fair imo.
 

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