What is death?

[Flipmo]

That's in the movie 'Be Cool' and he actually plays a fag in the movie. lol. Should be released in the UK soon enough

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

He's a sexy mo'fo' ain't he? lol

Btw, FlipMo, other than the fact that the pic is funny, how did you come to the conclusion that it had anything to do with death?

 

[Flipmo]

Shit, I dunno. I guess if you saw a buff gay man chasing you in a grass skirt for sodomizing purposes, you'd wish your dead.

I'm happy you enjoyed the picture.

 

[Mase]

Flipmo stumbled across it in one of his google image searches.. "Gay Samoan men hula dancing"

Death = When life ends. When you are physically not present, no blood circulating and none of your organs are working due to the brain not functioning, means you are dead.
This however dosn't mean your presence is not felt.

 

[Illuminattile]

Nde IS JUST ONE TO NAME A FEW

http://skepdic.com/nde.html

Chill with the cAPS LOCK.

 

[Jokerman]

Yeah, I don't make too much of near-death experiences. Some might be real but most are probably wishful thinking and brain phenomena.

But torture by elves: this is such a common occurence and there's so much evidence supporting it, that no one can deny it's happening.

 

[TecK NeeX]

I believe Death is a resting period between this life and the next where every single one of us will experience while we await the day of judgement

 

[Pacaveli-T]

Death is ultimetly the last thing you feel before your moment on Earth in some cases might be freedom and some might be fear...either way I know how I feel about it...

Whether you believe in heaven or hell or which one your going to is another story...

Either way death is my freedom from the living pains I've experienced although I'll surely miss the good things I had.

 

[Amara]

The body is definitely a mere shell after death. So an adequate working definition of death would be (a) irreversible cessation of all function of the brain of the person; or (b) irreversible cessation of circulation of blood in the body of the person.

However, our minds or "spirits" do seem to exist afterwards. The sheer weight of evidence leaves me in no doubt of this, even though my rational self tends to not believe it. This in turn implies that life after death is a reality. The rational notion that we are mere products of the material world and that the material world is the ultimate reality gives us a completely false picture of reality, however useful it is.

We can think of a person as a branch on a tree with twigs. The branch itself will be the life of the man or woman as we ordinarily see them, and the twigs will be the lives of people with whom they come into contact. But each of these people is for himself a main branch and other ppl are the offshoots... In this way the life of each person is connected with a number of other lives; one life enters, in a sense, into another, and all taken together forms a single whole, the nature of which we do not understand.

This enables us to see that the simple notion that human beings survive death and continue to exist in "another world" is somehow a gross oversimplification of the reality. Even the question, "Is there life after death?" is the wrong question, for all the misunderstandings are inbuilt into it. Our whole notion of what constitutes life -- and therefore death -- is fundamentally false, so that the question is very nearly meaningless. (The question, "Is there a God?" has the same inbuilt misconceptions.)

Exactly. That is exactly the kind of stuff I was trying to draw out of this thread. There are inherent difficulties in definition of death because whilst pertaining to relate to the physical, our psychological notions of the soul are at odds with that. Death is the cessation of life, yet the essence of life is a concept that is too hard to pin down and describe so that what we perceive as "death" is built on an empty premise. The malfunction of our systemic body is really what constitues the so-called 'death'. If there is more to our being than the physical, i.e. some kind of essence, and this does not disintegrate with our bodies, then in reality - we never die. You are right, death is a meaningless concept.

 

[Rukas]

Amara, I think your question is more to do with "what is life?" rather than "what is death?"

If we state and understand that death equals the cessation life, then that becomes our constent. If death is the cessation of life, the variable and dependent for the equation is life. What is life?

If we as humans can not comprehend what life is; what the meaning of life is; or what the purpose of life is, than it is not possible for us to begin to comprehend what death is, other than a lack of life.

Therefor when we view death, our idea and explenation is always confound by our human perception and experiance, thus we define death based on our own experiance; death is a lack of experiance; death is when we stop breathing, thinking, and functioning in an accepted and understood, yet limited to human understanding, way.

Therefor our understanding and explenation of death can only be based on our physical and mental understanding, and proof of death can never include spiritual life, or even physically aspects we do not understand or can not experiance. I say physical in regards to energy, as when we die, our life energy does not stop, it simply leaves our body and moves on. This we can not understand and therefor do not factor into our definitions of death. It is interesting to note that the explenation of life energy leaving the body and joining the rest of the energy in the world, has a strong parallel in the belief that a soul leaves the body and joins the rest of the souls.

So, what is death? I dont know, and the reason I do not know, is that I do not know the full spectrum of life, and thus do not know what a true lack of life is.

 

[Amara]

Amara, I think your question is more to do with "what is life?" rather than "what is death?"

If we state and understand that death equals the cessation life, then that becomes our constent. If death is the cessation of life, the variable and dependent for the equation is life. What is life?

If we as humans can not comprehend what life is; what the meaning of life is; or what the purpose of life is, than it is not possible for us to begin to comprehend what death is, other than a lack of life.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was saying before. Without being able to pin point the essence of life, a complete understanding of what death is, cannot be formulated nor fully comprehended. So I'm not so much questioning life as observating that without a working definition of life, we similarly cannot define death. Then the question arises, is this a satisfactory state of being?

Therefor our understanding and explenation of death can only be based on our physical and mental understanding, and proof of death can never include spiritual life, or even physically aspects we do not understand or can not experiance. I say physical in regards to energy, as when we die, our life energy does not stop, it simply leaves our body and moves on. This we can not understand and therefor do not factor into our definitions of death. It is interesting to note that the explenation of life energy leaving the body and joining the rest of the energy in the world, has a strong parallel in the belief that a soul leaves the body and joins the rest of the souls.

Yeah that's fine. We cannot understand the spiritual. We have no proof. So why is it we assume we have this "life energy" and are not just composed of material substances? But more importantly, like Jokerman said, doesnt the idea of that energy/soul remaining in some sense after death, render that the true reality of existing and not what we perceive in the material world?

Anyway, the thoughts go around in circles...

 

[Rukas]

Then the question arises, is this a satisfactory state of being?

Why shouldnt it be? Why do we need to understand? Curiosity killed the cat. Look at all this other life around us that has a lesser understanding, yet lives and is happy.

 

[The.Menace]

I dunno what death is all about, but in my dreams it's the moment I finally find peace.....

 

[Pacaveli-T]

I dunno what death is all about, but in my dreams it's the moment I finally find peace.....

i have to agree that how i feel about death its my peace and my freedom.

 

[VENOMOUS]

peace and freedom from what?

 

[The.Menace]

Pain, drama, pressure ...... also called life.

 

[Pacaveli-T]

Pain, drama, pressure ...... also called life.

basically menace got it down path.

 

[VENOMOUS]

basically menace got it down path.

what make you so sure youll find peace of mind and freedom thru death?And isnt the more to life then just pain pressure and drama?

 

[Pacaveli-T]

what make you so sure youll find peace of mind and freedom thru death?And isnt the more to life then just pain pressure and drama?

i know but majority anyways unless im going to hell i dont see a prob from the freedom i mean if i dont reincarnate i wont feel the trials and tribulations or life here.

 

[The.Menace]

what make you so sure youll find peace of mind and freedom thru death?And isnt the more to life then just pain pressure and drama?

I dunno what death is all about, but in my dreams it's the moment I finally find peace.....

read again. and notice, I wrote dreams, not nightmares....

No, sometimes there isn't more to life then pain, pressure and drama.