what do u all tink of freeganism movement???

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i saw them on 20/20 the other night and then did some more reseasch...would u joined them??


"The word freegan is derived from "free" and "vegan". Vegans are people who avoid products from animal sources or products tested on animals in an effort to avoid harming animals. Freegans take this a step further by recognizing that in a complex, industrial mass-production economy driven by profit, abuses of humans, animals, and the Earth abound at all levels of production in just about every product we buy, from acquisition to raw materials to production to transportation. Sweatshop labor, rainforest destruction, global warming, displacement of indigenous communities, air and water pollution, eradication of wildlife on farmland as "pests", the violent overthrow of popularly elected governments to maintain puppet dictators compliant to big business interests, open pit strip mining, oil drilling in environmentally sensitive areas, union busting, child slavery, and payoffs to repressive regimes are just some of the many impacts of the seemingly innocuous consumer products we consume every day.

Freegans employ a range of strategies for practical living based on our principles:

Waste Reclamation:
Under an economic system where sellers only value commodities and places relative to their capacity to generate profit and consumers are constantly bombarded with advertising telling them to discard and replace the goods they already have, affluent societies are enormously wasteful, so much so that people can survive and thrive by making practical use of resources that would otherwise go to waste. In the process, freegans challenge the injustice of allowing vital resources to be wasted while multitudes lack basic necessities like food, clothing, and shelter. And by making use of waste, freegans reduce the flow of garbage to landfills and incinerators that are disproportionately situated within poor, non-white neighborhoods, where they cause elevated levels of cancer and asthma

Perhaps the most notorious freegan strategy is what is commonly called "urban foraging" or "dumpster diving." This technique involved rummaging through the garbage of retailers, residences, offices, and other facilities for useful goods. Despite our society's sterotypes about refuse, the goods recovered by freegans are safe, useable, clean, and in perfect or near-perfect condition, a symptom of a throwaway culture that encourages us to constantly replace our older goods with newer ones, and where retailers plan high-volume product disposal as part of their economic model. Some urban foragers forage alone, others in groups, happy to share our discoveries with one another, and with their communities. Groups like Food Not Bombs recover foods that would otherwise go to waste and use them to prepare meals to share in public places with any who can enjoy food shared freely with them.

By recovering the discards of retailers, offices, schools, homes, hotels, and other places, freegans are able to obtain food, beverages, books, toiletries magazines, comic books, newspapers, videos, kitchenware, appliances, music (CDs, cassettes, records, etc.), carpets, musical instruments, clothing, rollerblades, scooters, furniture, vitamins, electronics, animal care products, games, toys, bicycles, artwork, and just about any other type of consumer good can be found in the discards of retailers, institutions, and individuals simply by rummaging through their trash bins, dumpsters, and trash bags. Rather than contributing to further waste, freegans curtail garbage and pollution and lessening the over-all volume in the waste stream.

Eco-Friendly Transportation
Recognizing the disastrous social and ecological impacts of the automobile, from petroleum consumption to road building in wilderness areas to air pollution to collision deaths for humans and wildlife to providing the economic impetus for mass slaughter in Iraq, many freegans choose not to own cars and find other strategies for transportation, including trainhopping, hitchhiking, walking, skating, and biking.

Some freegans find at least some use of cars unavoidable, but eliminate our dependence on fossil fuels by converting our engines to run on “greisel”, literally fueling our cars with used fryer oil from restaurants—another example of diverting waste for practical use. Volunteer groups are forming all over to assist people in converting our engines to run on greisel. And of course, freegans will more readily buy a used car than a new one.


Many freegans are squatters, people who occupy and rehabilitate abandoned, decrepit buildings. Squatters believe that real human needs are more important than abstract notions of private property, and that those who hold deed to buildings but won’t allow people to live in them in places where housing is vitally needed don’t deserve to own those buildings. In addition to homes, squatters often convert abandoned buildings into community centers, with programs including art activities for children, environmental education, space for meetings for community organizations, and more.

An urban movement has been turning garbage-filled abandoned lots into verdant community garden plots. In neighborhoods where stores are more likely to carry junk food than fresh greens, community gardens provide a health food source. Where the air is choked with asthma inducing pollutants, community gardens produce fresh oxygen. In landscapes dominated by brick, concrete, and asphalt, community gardens provide oases of green, places for communities to come together, work together, share food grow together, and break down the barriers that keep people apart in a society where we have all become too isolated from one another.

Working Less / Voluntary Joblessness
How much of our lives do we sacrifice for the ability to pay the bills and buy more stuff? For most of us, work means sacrificing our freedom to take orders from someone else, stress, boredom, monotony, and in many cases risks to our physical and psychological well-being.

Additionally, once we realize that its not a few bad products or a few egregious companies responsible for the social and ecological abuses in our world, but the entire system the exist within, we begin to realize that as workers, we are cogs in a machine of violence, death, exploitation, and destruction. Is the retail clerk who rings up a cut of veal any less responsible for the cruelty of factory farming than the farm worker? What about the ad designer who finds ways to make the product palatable? How about the accountant who does the grocery’s books and allows it to stay in business? Or the worker in the factory that manufacturers refrigerator cases? And, of course, the CEOs of the grocery chain and the veal manufacturer bear the greatest responsibility of all.

By accounting for basic necessities like food, clothing, housing, and furniture without spending a dime, freegans are able to greatly reduce or altogether eliminate the need to constantly be employed. We can instead devote our time to caring for our families, volunteering in our communities, and joining activist groups to fight the practices of the corporations who would otherwise be our bosses. For some, total unemployment isn’t an option—it’s far harder to find free dental surgery than a free bookcase on the curb—but by limiting our financial needs, even those freegans who need to work can place conscious limits on how much we work, take control of our lives, and escape the constant pressure to make ends meet. But even if we must work, we need not cede total control to the bosses. The freegan spirit of cooperative empowerment can be extended into the workplace by organizing shops as part of worker-led unions like the Industrial Workers of the World."

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Should have put this in WOW for more intelligent responses.


But since it's here, I'll say, Fuck that, what happens when you need a chicken liver and can't afford an operation and wind up looking like anorexic bulimic brown chickens? What then!
 
I'm a vegetarian and maybe I'll be a vegan one day, cuz I agree with most of their principles. I don't think nature is a resource we can use as we decide, and for me this is a way of learning how to respect the earth, non-human animals and ourselves.

But most of the vegan people I've met just want to destroy our social system and live in a wild way. I believe that civilisation is a natural consequence of human evolution, so I don't think we can fight against that. The problem appears when we try to define "civilization". Wars, discrimination, hate, all that is not very "civilizated". Instead we should have built a society on values like tolerance and respect, but everything seems to go so wrong, just read the news one day. :(

To sum up: I don't agree with this freeganism. Social systems and veganism/vegetarianism are compatible, it's just that the society we live in is fucked up.
 
Missy "C" said:
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could someone move this to WOW, please?

I was going to start a thread about all this, I'm really interested in reading more serious responses.

Thx

yah...thnz for moving it...also here are some pitures i found on what kinds of tings they find...so maybe it okay, no?

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PuffnScruff said:
what's the point of the pictures? what do you mean by this is some of the things they find?

i think its food thats found in the garbage in the city. I don't mind vegans, just don't push your thoughts onto me
 
Why is there a pic of Hebrew books? What's that got to do with food?

Move this back to Thug Whatever!
 
Just goes to show even in the good ol USA not everyone is happy with the capitalistic state, i prob wouldnt be one to join their ranks as i eat meat almost everyday.

it is important to say also their lifestyle is only possible because of the vast amount of everything that is wasted by the corporate machine everyday and if everyone lived this way there would be noone chucking stuff away.

Also im surpised no one has brought up the word communist in this thread:)
 
My response was serious. I like meat and won't stop eating. That is what I think about freeganism.
 
Seeing as this is more of a picture posting/opinion type thread and not really an intelectual discussion its being moved to Our Block.

Here's a hint, when posting something that you want discussed, start the discussion yourself; dont just post an article.

As for my opinion, to each his own, but I enjoy meat. A futhermore at some level everything we eat exploits something else. So if they want to be so good and clean, they need to stop eating full stop.
 
id be all pro healthy food and shit..but have yall ever been to a supermarket? or grocery store? and if yes..have yall been to the "organic" food or the "healthy food departments?! freakin food is maddd expensive. wtf do they do to the bananas/tomatoes and or ne veggie n shit that they cost like 5 buckz a lb?

i do all my grocery and shit from the back of the van that comes around my way every thursdayz at 5:45am...and a second round at 8pm. my chicken out the van...my slightly green beef n shit...all for like 2 3 dollars a stack. aint no better deal in any of those supermarkets they call n shit.

my tomatoes mayb a lil soft and weird..but ay..all dat shit gets pumped out our ass and stomped in the bathtub anyway right? right.
 

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