UK Terrorist Threat

just to add to all this, according to this article and several other sources, the US had very credible information regarding terror attacks in Glasgow and Prague, Czech Republic "against airport infrastructure and aircrafts" and didn't even bother to warn these countries. and the US wonders why everyone hates them so much? i suppose they should be grateful these attacks or attempted attacks didn't turn out as they were planned, but still, how can you have info like that and not pass it along?

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3336148
 
5 of the 8 people arrested so far are doctors and i read about a 6th doctor whose home was raided.

this isnt directly related to this situation but it was an article that came out today that was still a pretty good read and it gave some insight into the minds of these radical muslims from a person who used to be one

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770

and look at this. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070702091224.1misxgx2&show_article=1
this saudis have foiled 180 terror plots in the past few years.
 
5 of the 8 people arrested so far are doctors and i read about a 6th doctor whose home was raided.

this isnt directly related to this situation but it was an article that came out today that was still a pretty good read and it gave some insight into the minds of these radical muslims from a person who used to be one

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770

and look at this. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070702091224.1misxgx2&show_article=1
this saudis have foiled 180 terror plots in the past few years.

I read a similar account from an extremist who saud that our foreign policy doesn't mean shit to them. They aren't bothered about the war in the middle east. Their goal is to create a huge Islamic state (read Islamic World).... And that anyone who isn't a Muslim is in fact an ifidel... And needs to be exterminated. Their lack of education and understanding is frightening. I have read the Qu'ran.... And half of what they preach is false, and the other half is taken out of context....
 
You cannot pull these British citizens out of Britain because you can't assume that an Afghani is a terrorist. Plus, weren't there reports that some of these attempted car bombings were done by people from South Asia?

I agree... I don't have conviction in the point I made....


But... If someone is given citizenship... Say British... and then they preach hate and encourage attacks on their "new" country... Surely this is enough to remove his citizenship and stick him on the next boat going East.... Most of the danger is coming from within... With stricter immigration.... and a low tolerance to "treason"... The danger will be reduced....

All this does is encourage less educated westerners to develop a hatred to Muslim's and those they peceive to be the "enemy"... The people who lose are those who are hurt in the terrorist attacks or those who lose family... And also the law abiding and peace loving Muslims... Those who follow the true words of Allah....

THe only way this can be stopped is if the Muslim community were to realise that they need to stand up and speak out against this rotten apple. Instead of feeling persecuted when Police stop and search... Feel reassured the Police are working to remove the danger... Instead of uniting with their muslim brothers... Unite with their british brothers...

All we are achieveing here is segregation and distrust on both sides.
 
I'm flying out of JFK on the 5th and will be in London the next day,and then make my final destination to my home country.Talk about bad timing.I'm sure I'll be searched butt naked in London.I just need to go to church before i leave and pray my plane won't be hijacked or something.This is frighting.
 
I'm flying out of JFK on the 5th and will be in London the next day,and then make my final destination to my home country.Talk about bad timing.I'm sure I'll be searched butt naked in London.I just need to go to church before i leave and pray my plane won't be hijacked or something.This is frighting.


bwahahahaha bachaveli is going to die. :laugh:
 
I agree with your post Pittsey,but these terrorists are targeting Britain.If they want to create a huge Islamic state wouldnt they be carrying out attacks in many other countries.?I know they attacked Spain as well but then Spain did send troops to Iraq.
 
Their goals aren't to create an Islamic state because killing civilians in a western country cannot achieve that goal. Now, if you want to talk about people trying to create an Islamic state, ask why the US and the UK are so keen on creating an Islamic state in the middle of Europe (Kosovo).
 
I agree with your post Pittsey,but these terrorists are targeting Britain.If they want to create a huge Islamic state wouldnt they be carrying out attacks in many other countries.?I know they attacked Spain as well but then Spain did send troops to Iraq.

actually they have made attacks in other countries. you have to really look past recent years and go back a few decades. they have been waging this war for most of the 20th century. i have seen some authors say they can trace radical islams war against the west all the way back to the 18th century.

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/link_timeline.php

this site has put together a pretty good timeline of terrorist attacks going back to the late 70's

there are some other good documentarys out there on the subject too that show a long history of radical islamists terrorist related attacks all over the world
 
Their goals aren't to create an Islamic state because killing civilians in a western country cannot achieve that goal. Now, if you want to talk about people trying to create an Islamic state, ask why the US and the UK are so keen on creating an Islamic state in the middle of Europe (Kosovo).

They want to raise attention to their "cause" and recruit people this way; with more members they probably think that eventually they will have a "state."

That is why the attacks are all high profile targets. You dont see them trying to cripple any military targets for strategic purposes, it just wouldnt get the same media attention.
 
Anyway, two Australian doctors were arrested as they tried to fly out of the country, both from India, in relation to this. Not sure exactly what kind of relation as of last nights news, perhaps Ill hear something new today...
 
They want to raise attention to their "cause" and recruit people this way; with more members they probably think that eventually they will have a "state."

That is why the attacks are all high profile targets. You dont see them trying to cripple any military targets for strategic purposes, it just wouldnt get the same media attention.

They target civilians because they can't effectively target military personnel. It's much easier to bomb a shopping mall than a military base. "Weapons of the weak".
 
Originally Posted by Rukas
Anyway, two Australian doctors were arrested as they tried to fly out of the country, both from India, in relation to this. Not sure exactly what kind of relation as of last nights news, perhaps Ill hear something new today...

I think one of them was released.
 
Inregards to an Islamic state... This wasn't my opinion or my theory... I am just repeating what an "ex"-extremist has said. And what his reasons, and that of his peers are for joining the terrorist cells.....

And I don't agree with the Uk's foreign policy....


All I know is that my working life is now a nightmare and will be for the near future.... Maybe if the UK strengthened it's Immigration policy this problem would be reduced.... 99% of the Terrorists are UK citizens and 99% were immigrants from the last 10 years, or offspring of Immigrants....
 
Quick Question....


How does killing (or attempting to) 100's or 1000's of people stregthen their position or weaken an American, or British government?

Especially if the war is over oil, as is specualted often.
 
Well, if the people see that their governemnt cant handle the problem, the terrorist threat, they wont re-elect the politicians. Maybe?

Yes, it makes no sense i think.
 

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